it doesn't work for me either ive tried it a handful of time, with the boil, just hot water, cwe, acid extraction non seem to me any different from one and other. Hell ever tried making the damn puddy, I had a friend try the tea. I make it pretty concentrated so I don't have allot of water to drink. (i use plenty for extraction just evap off allot). anyways he said he felt "drunk" off just one drink, I guess my tolerance if just to high to get any recreational effect from tea. fucking h is a ghost here, and rx is worth gold I just don't know anymore. About to hang up my hat...
also this kratom shit that's suppose to do something? I tried that 3 different times last time, choking down an oz of that shit. It has no effect either, i don't know how anyone claiming to get anything from this shit. It's like a 10mg hydro would get you high or something?