Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

[amapola]

So is it legal to purchase poppy pods in the US? If not, are poppy seeds sold in stores, or do I need to order online. If I were to make poppy tea out of seeds how would I go about doing this?

Poppy pods are illegal in the United States. You can get seeds practically anywhere but the residue morphine on them will be quite variable. Read this thread for information on making a tea (it comes down to rinsing the seeds with water).

I read on another thread this isn't opium but what people call "puddy", he gave me some about 1cm in a ball, it's almost hard a little bit squishy. Can you smoke it like that? I think he's been trying but I don't know what effect he got.

Opium is the dried latex harvested by scoring the bulb. What your friend has collected is some of the residiual latex left on the pods (containing some alkaloids), likely some oils (depending on refinement proccesses), and of course bits of plant material. It can't see why it couldn't be smoked, but likely won't be able to be properly vaporized like true opium.

 

[Oxide]

I've begun combining the first two washes of my seed tea.

I've usually used about 1-1.3lbs of seed, throw it in a 2 liter(shitty bottles) or a juice bottle (thick, good bottles with wide mouths. I prefer these.) and wash it with ~12-16 fl oz of water combined with lemon juice for about 3-5 minutes. I drain the water into a cup, and drink.

Instead of drinking, set the cup aside and wash the seeds again with more lemon-water. I drain the second wash into the same cup, stir it all up and drink.

Discovered today I can make a full cup of seed tea using ~.5lbs of seed washed twice instead of the whole pound, with pretty much equal potency. Of course I use less water for washing the half pound, probably about 8 fl oz or so per wash.

Mmm, conservation.

 

[Timland]

anyone tried the 2011 crop from the Northwest?

Yes. Same as last season for me.

I have yet to try the .. other region's.

The Northwest ones have far less Thebaine to Morphine ratio than the other region's in my experience. I have not actually lab tested the alkaloids however. Higher-thebaine pods (Thebaine being an oxycodone precursor) provides higher quality highs than lesser-thebaine pods for me.

The discolored pods that have a sweet cough syrupy odor when you open the package tend to have very nice thebaine to morphine ratios. Also a lot more alkaloids in general. Those pods have kept me awake for 30 hours or more sometimes. They have profound impact that goes beyond single short duration opiates for me.

 

[DJKAOS]

Yes. Same as last season for me.

I have yet to try the .. other region's.

The Northwest ones have far less Thebaine to Morphine ratio than the other region's in my experience. I have not actually lab tested the alkaloids however. Higher-thebaine pods (Thebaine being an oxycodone precursor) provides higher quality highs than lesser-thebaine pods for me.

The discolored pods that have a sweet cough syrupy odor when you open the package tend to have very nice thebaine to morphine ratios. Also a lot more alkaloids in general. Those pods have kept me awake for 30 hours or more sometimes. They have profound impact that goes beyond single short duration opiates for me.

so adding a couple of oriental pods to my papavers would increase the high?

 

[Timland]

so adding a couple of oriental pods to my papavers would increase the high?

Well I'm not too versed on the differing strains/species aside from climates/regions. If oriental is known to have a higher thebaine-morphine ratio it will be a higher quality high IMO, but won't necessarily be stronger. In other words, if the overall alkaloid content is lower in the orientals it will still be less potent.

 

[belperboy]

Poppy seed tea-time

Hi there,

I've been doing a lot of reading (on here and other sites) about poppy seed tea and was able to experiment with it a little myself with varying results.
From what I've read here there are a few points with making it people are generally undecided on. These being; using hot, warm or cold water to wash the seeds, wether to steep the tea for a period of time or not at all and wether adding some form of citric acid (lemon juice, grapefruit juice) to change the ph of the water to aid in the washing of the alkaloids from the seeds.
I really would like any experienced poppy seed tea fans to weigh in on what has worked best for them and what is the generally accepted way of preparing this.
I realize poppy pods are seen as preferable for better pain killing/high, but these seem to be increasingly hard to find and are pretty darn expensive.
Thanks in advance for your comments!

 

[Skewered]

I've begun combining the first two washes of my seed tea.

Wait you used to use the same batch to get high at two separate times?

Also I tried adding lemon juice to the mix and did not notice any difference, except for the taste.

Hi there,

I've been doing a lot of reading (on here and other sites) about poppy seed tea and was able to experiment with it a little myself with varying results.
From what I've read here there are a few points with making it people are generally undecided on. These being; using hot, warm or cold water to wash the seeds, wether to steep the tea for a period of time or not at all and wether adding some form of citric acid (lemon juice, grapefruit juice) to change the ph of the water to aid in the washing of the alkaloids from the seeds.
I really would like any experienced poppy seed tea fans to weigh in on what has worked best for them and what is the generally accepted way of preparing this.
I realize poppy pods are seen as preferable for better pain killing/high, but these seem to be increasingly hard to find and are pretty darn expensive.
Thanks in advance for your comments!

Hi. From what I've seen and read, yes lemon juice is debatable. I tried it once and there was no difference. Grapefruit juice is not debatable though, it's a common opiate potenciator which works for almost all opiates. You don't add the grapefruit juice to the mix, you just drink it about 45 minutes before drinking your tea. It has to be 100% white grapefruit juice. Also there are many other potenciators you can use, there's a thread about it somewhere.

There's no consensus on the water temp and the shaking time. I put around 750-1000 grams of seed in one or two 2 liter bottles (with one bottle it gets so full that I can hardly shake the mix), add cool water from the tap up to about an inch above the seed. Shake one minute, let it sit there for ten, then unscrew the cap just a little, so that the good old brownish water comes out when you squeeze the bottle. Rewash once or twice to get the most out of your seeds. Discard the bottles. DRINK THE TEA!

As you can see many people use less seed than me, and seem to get comparable results. So either my technique isn't the best, or the seeds I buy have been washed more. You want to get dirty, cheap, unwashed seeds for better results. Start low.

 

[coralreef84]

Can anybody tell me at site too get pods or seeds and what kind do I get?

 

[belperboy]

Hi. From what I've seen and read, yes lemon juice is debatable. I tried it once and there was no difference. Grapefruit juice is not debatable though, it's a common opiate potenciator which works for almost all opiates. You don't add the grapefruit juice to the mix, you just drink it about 45 minutes before drinking your tea. It has to be 100% white grapefruit juice. Also there are many other potenciators you can use, there's a thread about it somewhere.

There's no consensus on the water temp and the shaking time. I put around 750-1000 grams of seed in one or two 2 liter bottles (with one bottle it gets so full that I can hardly shake the mix), add cool water from the tap up to about an inch above the seed. Shake one minute, let it sit there for ten, then unscrew the cap just a little, so that the good old brownish water comes out when you squeeze the bottle. Rewash once or twice to get the most out of your seeds. Discard the bottles. DRINK THE TEA!

As you can see many people use less seed than me, and seem to get comparable results. So either my technique isn't the best, or the seeds I buy have been washed more. You want to get dirty, cheap, unwashed seeds for better results. Start low.

Hi there
The first time I made it I used about 600 grams of seeds, 500 mls of cold water and shook it for a minute, then let it stand for 15. I think that first one gave me the best results. I got about 3 washes out of them during that evening and was probably high for at least 12 hours. I thought I'd overdid it so I've been using less seed since but I've not been able to come close to recreating that first time. I've tried warm water, hot, cold, ice-cold...adding lemon juice, adding pomegranite juice...shaking it for two minutes then pouring it straight out and drinking it, shaking it and letting it stand for 15 minutes, 1 hour and longer.
There must be a fine line between steeping for just enough and too long. I understand that the longer you steep it, the softer the seeds get and obviously they start to absorb the moisture and any morphine content that was in the water/on the seeds.
I haven't tried drinking the grapefruit juice before hand though. I've mixed it with the tea and drank it afterwards.
The seeds I'm using are 'Bob's Red Mill" and seem to have a bit of plant matter in there. I've only found them in 8 oz bags though so I haven't really tried any bulk, cheap ones.

 

[Oxide]

There must be a fine line between steeping for just enough and too long. I understand that the longer you steep it, the softer the seeds get and obviously they start to absorb the moisture and any morphine content that was in the water/on the seeds.

^Avoid letting the seeds sit. Not only, as you said, do the seeds start to absorb the water, but they also release disgusting fats and oils into the brew. Bleh. I usually wash for no more than 2-3 minutes, let it sit for maybe 30 seconds and drain. I've gotten much more drinkable results doing it like that. Cool-ish water too.

Hi. From what I've seen and read, yes lemon juice is debatable. I tried it once and there was no difference.

From my personal trial and error experience, lemon juice might not increase the potency drastically but it certainly is a difference. While debatable, I still find it to be a much needed addition to my seed tea. I've always gotten better results out of acidified water it seems.

I've used stuff called 'fruit fresh'; which is just citric acid, ascorbic acid (vitamin c) and dextrose, to acidify it as well. This was much better than just the lemon juice alone. Of course I also find the lemon to cut some of the taste. I suppose the difference is pretty nil, but I would recommend it.

I also have some theory about the acidity helping the seeds keep for at least slightly longer than they usually do in my closet inside the 2 liter.

I wonder if i reclaimed the seeds out of the bottle, and dried them out somehow if I could wash them again that way without them getting too nasty before I'm ready? Hmm.

Wait you used to use the same batch to get high at two separate times?

Well yeah I try to. What I meant was I take half my regular amount of seeds and wash them twice with the same water. Or I'll wash it once, put more water in and do another quick-wash. Then I'll drain it all into the same cup.

It really help me cut down on how many seeds I was blowing through. It could all be in my head but it seems to work alright.

 

[belperboy]

I had a nasty shock last night. I made some tea with about 1lb 1/2 of seeds, drank the first wash down and made another and put it in the fridge for the morning. A couple of hours later I decided to go to bed and after about a hour or so I woke up from a light sleep with my throat on fire, coughing like crazy. My stomach was really upset too. I couldn't sleep because of that so I stayed up coughing and trying not to throw up most of the night.
I don't know if I may have pushed it a little too far for me with 1lb 1/2 of seeds or if the stupid amounts of lemon juice I've been adding to it was causing bad acid reflux.
Scared me a little bit. I'm feeling a lot better now but I had no idea what was happening last night.

 

[Oxide]

Calm down on the lemon juice. I had some serious abdominal pain after a particularly lemony binge. Tums cleared it up pretty quick, so I suspect it had to do with all the acidic lemon juice. Invest in an acid reducer, or something of the like and cut back on the lemon juice. You only need a little bit really.

 

[BrainstormWithJace]

just ordered some poppy pods from overseas (u know europe). can anyone comment on whether they are more likely to contain more morphine/alkolaids then stateside pods. trying to figure out what to expect.

 

[amapola]

just ordered some poppy pods from overseas (u know europe). can anyone comment on whether they are more likely to contain more morphine/alkolaids then stateside pods. trying to figure out what to expect.

Anybody giving you any "knowledgable" advice on this subject is endangering your life and those of anyone else who reads it. Assume that they are the most potent of all pods/seeds possible, start very low, and safely work your way up. This stands true for any and all drugs of unknown strength (i.e. all non medically prepared substance).

Stay safe!

 

[SpudPuppy]

First post. I've been looking for a "legal" way to get high, as I'm in med school right now and can't really risk getting caught with anything illegal/shady. I've come across a few xanax in my day, but not much in the way of opiates. I was thinking about giving poppy seed tea a chance but had a couple of questions.

Everyone seems to mention that the potency is unpredictable, and that it is relatively easy to OD. I was planning on using a half a pound of seeds and then slowly drinking the water with the extract. (think 1/4 of it, wait 2 hours, then drink another 1/4, wait 2 hours etc). Do you think this would be advisable, or is it not going to make much of a difference?

 

[schwiftee]

First post. I've been looking for a "legal" way to get high, as I'm in med school right now and can't really risk getting caught with anything illegal/shady. I've come across a few xanax in my day, but not much in the way of opiates. I was thinking about giving poppy seed tea a chance but had a couple of questions.

Everyone seems to mention that the potency is unpredictable, and that it is relatively easy to OD. I was planning on using a half a pound of seeds and then slowly drinking the water with the extract. (think 1/4 of it, wait 2 hours, then drink another 1/4, wait 2 hours etc). Do you think this would be advisable, or is it not going to make much of a difference?

It takes about 30 mins to take hold so you should have a pretty good idea of the potency by that time. I would suggest you wait longer then that if your opiate naive. It has a horrible taste to it; I would advise that you chill it - it's not so bad that way.

 

[SpudPuppy]

So I picked up two pounds of seeds from two different stores (one a coop, one an organic market). I just made a one pound batch (filled 2 liter bottle w/ seeds, then cold water, shook every 5 minutes for half an hour) and am slowly drinking it. It came out a very pale yellow color, but to be honest it doesn't taste that bad. It definitely has a taste, but nothing I'd cringe at. The lack of a disgusting taste makes me think I didn't get good stuff, but it's only been ~30 minutes and I'm taking it slow so I'll update later on how it goes/went.

 

[Oxide]

You let it sit too long. It's more of a wash than an 'extract.'

Next time you do it, shake it constantly for about 3-5 minutes straight. Then drain and drink, don't let it sit or anything. You'll get better results, believe it or not.

 

[doppelganga196]

Spotted a nice ole patch of poppys the other day & was delighted as it's so late in the year to find any!

They were fairly small tho so i used all 61 pods i picked: good high not too strong, not too weak. However when i went to bed this morning at 9am after enjoying 6 hours of opiated relaxation i found myself rather concerned going to sleep that i was barely breathing. I wound up not really sleeping but not really awake either, even after taking a sedating antihistamine.

The high has legs tho, i'm still feeling real fine!

 

[BrainstormWithJace]

Anybody giving you any "knowledgable" advice on this subject is endangering your life and those of anyone else who reads it. Assume that they are the most potent of all pods/seeds possible, start very low, and safely work your way up. This stands true for any and all drugs of unknown strength (i.e. all non medically prepared substance).

Stay safe!

I appreciate the concern but I'm pretty safe when it comes to taking drugs. In face I am planning on starting with 1 pods and seeing how that goes to test potency and go from there. What I was just wondering if there was any major differences between stateside pods and overseas pods. You know in terms of rough halflife, amount of sedation, taste etc.