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Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

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As far as I know, it will not diminish the overall effects of the poppy pod tea. It probably won't 'hit' as hard and fast, (i.e. it will probably block a rush as SUBSHOOTER2010 mentioned) but it should still work just fine.

Here is a link to the Poppy Pod/Seed Megathread, an excellent place to start. While the size of the thread might be a little overwhelming at first, there is plenty to be learned about pod tea there. A quick google search (or visit to the OD Directory) should yield the links to eariler versions of that thread.

EDIT: Gonna merge this into the megathread.

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Not unless you want to buy 5 pounds and wash them.

The US has taken a stricter stance on those too. Most get washed before being declared food worthy, which takes all the opiates with it.

I live in the US, and I use (unwashed) poppyseed tea daily. Purchased from a bulk bin at a regular grocery store, and I assume they fill the bins with seeds purchased in bulk from a major supplier of some sort. So, in reality I'm sure that "taking a stricter stance on poppyseed" is not true at all and it is just the same story as it has always been: depends on the batch. (and I suppose the supplier)
 
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I realize there is a lot of information on PPT here but I can't find it for some reason...

I'd like some advice as to what I should do for my first PPT experience

My first experience with PPT had also been my first opiate use after a long period of taking buprenorphine for opiate maintenance. I had been clean for over 3 weeks before using PPT, and I used ~10 large pods for my first time. This was back when pods were a lot cheaper, and a lot better than now, so the experience varies a lot depending on the quality of the pods.

Have you ever used morphine? The effects of PPT are very similar to that of morphine, since it is pretty much what you are getting from the pods. I don't find morphine particularly euphoric, so how one finds the effects of morphine is a big factor in how they will find the high of PPT.

Normally I would say to start low and work your way up, but I think that your tolerance will allow you to take the 10 pods without the risk of overdose. You can find the best way to make the tea by searching online, but to sum it up, you crush the pods, cook them in steaming hot water (don't allow it to boil) for 10-12 minutes, and then add something acidic to it such as lemon or lime juice.

The effects last for a very long time, and it also takes a long time to peak. I don't know if you only have 10, but I recommend using all 10, and if you have more, wait 1-2 hours before redosing. Eating a fatty meal beforehand may increase the absorption of the drug, so that is something to consider doing before ingestion.
 
Pods aren't a simple morphine high. There's almost 30 some actives in it.

It's like comparing marinol to smoking bud.

Personally, I can't tell the difference between the high of morphine and PPT. Adjusting the pH to make it more acidic extracts more of the morphine out of the pods, so that may be the reason why I mostly feel the effects of morphine in PPT. It contains morphine, codeine, and other alkaloids, so you are correct in that aspect, but since morphine is the predominant opiate alkaloid in PPT, I don't see how PPT is not basically a morphine high. I understand that other alkaloids are present, but only in trace amounts.
 
There is also a steeping method that I like, but I would only recommend you do this if you have a container that is safe to have hot water in. I crush the pods and put them in a container, pour steaming hot water into it (along with lemon juice), cap it, wait 15 minutes, then un-screw the cap just enough for the tea to come out, while it acts as a strainer keeping all the seeds and pod material behind.
 
I don't know if this has been covered yet in this. I know a number of us said it years ago. In a bind, a really decent strainer is to have you grounds in a large (or any) plastic jug, turn it upside down, loosen the cap, but keep the cap on, squeeze the bottle, and adjust accordingly, but yay, that shit can get hot, although, you really don't even need to use hot water, but hot water is far faster, when it's not too hot to kill some actives and brew up some fatty lipids.

Personally, I can't tell the difference between the high of morphine and PPT. Adjusting the pH to make it more acidic extracts more of the morphine out of the pods, so that may be the reason why I mostly feel the effects of morphine in PPT. It contains morphine, codeine, and other alkaloids, so you are correct in that aspect, but since morphine is the predominant opiate alkaloid in PPT, I don't see how PPT is not basically a morphine high. I understand that other alkaloids are present, but only in trace amounts.

Interesting, about pH levels.

It's different. Kind of like a cross between oxy and morphine imo. I think the papaverine in itself makes it more stimulating. Opium is simply the best opiate high imo, then again, morphine is my favorite opiate, and I like it more than all opiods as well.
 
help for you.

I'm not quite sure about lope blocking the pods sirry.

As for poppy pods I would use four or five of them. I don't really have a tolorance and I use five big ones to get me flying. Though if nervous drink half and wait a half an hour and see where that puts you.
With poppies its like herion they vary on strengths.
So my method on drinking it is start off taking the stems and crowns off the pods and throw away the seeds inside(if any)
then grind up the pods finely (I use a food processor).
Boil a little more than a cup of water.Once the water is boiling take off heat and pour in the poppy grinds.
Let it rest for about twenty minutes. After filter out the pods (use a fine strainer.)
And drink! (BTW eating the pods are fine to eat but don't expect to get "higher")
I actually don't mind the taste.Its a little bitter but if you just use honey and maybe another tea like camomille then you wont even mind it either.
It's a great high.


I realize there is a lot of information on PPT here but I can't find it for some reason...

I'd like some advice as to what I should do for my first PPT experience keeping in mind:

-I have taken buprenorphine daily for the last 4 years (last dose was 10mcg/hr for 2 months)
-I have been off buprenorphine for over 10 days
-I've been taking approx. 10mg loperamide daily since I quit bupe (to manage WD)
-I have 10 large pods and no PPT experience whatsoever

Any help as to what kind of dose I should take or how to prepare would be appreciated, and a link to another thread would be good. I want to feel something from this...I also want to be safe and informed.

Also, will loperamide block the morphine/codiene in the pods? No one has confirmed if lope actually does this or not.
 
Pod tea high is waay more euphoric than straight morphine. When I used, I preferred it over pretty much every other opiate, even oxy (tied with methadone, smoked heroin). But I'm glad I jumped off that train- shit's run dry and prices skyrocketed. Us old timers remember the good ol' Ebay days...shit, can't believe how much good quality pods were available for cheap.
 
After so long I am back to Mother Somniferum. How I wish for the golden days of supply exceeding demand to return. Alas, its inevitable with any free flowing opioid source ain't it? lol.

I have found that memantine 10mg twice daily, magnesium, methoxetamine, noopept, choline, naltrexone 1-10 micrograms (do NOT take 1-10 milligrams), milk thistle so far to be effective in grinding tolerance down while using.

I even still get highs that feel like the "first time."

A year ago I never thought I'd buy in bulk but now I am. Eh, its better than having to pay out the behind for pharms everyday or get dopesick. But pods are finite as much as street pharms are.
 
Kratom didn't work, got some pods but scared to try - can I ask a few questions?

I am a long time Roxicodone user and currently take 150mg a day and that barely effects me anymore. I suppose I have a high tollorance for opiates now.

I am looking for something that can help me much like the roxy but not something I need a script for.

I tried Krartom and it did nothing for me. However, I only got it from one place and don't even know if I did it right. I did read an FAQ on another forum about making Kratom Tea... followed the directions but nothing happended for me at all.

So, I have been reading about the Poppy pods. I ordered 3 large ones. They are the size of a tennis ball. They are dry and look dirty. I don't even know if they are the right kind. I read I should get Popii Sominer something or other kind and that is what these are. However, when I opended the package, there was a note stating "Do not take internaly - for ornamental use only" I suppose that is what the primary use is?

Anyway, before I screw up and do something dangerous, I wanted to ask a few questions...

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2. if I accidentally swallow some of the "mold" will it be dangerous?
3. Some people on here have said to not bother with tea but just crush them up and swallow. ???
4. Becasue they are dry, brittle, and hollow except for seeds, will they still do what I want them to do?

I'm sorry I am so vague here but even though I have Googled and read about this stuff, I am still confused and want to be sure I get the right kind, and eat it the right way and use the right amount.

Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
 
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Moved to OD.

It's not surprising you got nothing out of kratom with such a high tolerance, although I'd be willing to bet the recipe you followed was somewhat inaccurate as I found nearly all of them to be when I started with kratom.

I wrote my own over at the Kratom Thread awhile back. I'd be willing to dig it up for you, though.

Regarding pods, they are sold for decorative purposes, yes. However they do contain opiates, and will get the job done. You can brew a tea or simply grind up the pods and eat the powder if I recall correctly.

EDIT: Gonna merge this into the Poppy pod/seed megathread.
 
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I am a long time Roxicodone user and currently take 150mg a day and that barely effects me anymore. I suppose I have a high tollorance for opiates now.

I am looking for something that can help me much like the roxy but not something I need a script for.

I tried Krartom and it did nothing for me. However, I only got it from one place and don't even know if I did it right. I did read an FAQ on another forum about making Kratom Tea... followed the directions but nothing happended for me at all.

So, I have been reading about the Poppy pods. I ordered 3 large ones. They are the size of a tennis ball. They are dry and look dirty. I don't even know if they are the right kind. I read I should get Popii Sominer something or other kind and that is what these are. However, when I opended the package, there was a note stating "Do not take internaly - for ornamental use only" I suppose that is what the primary use is?

Anyway, before I screw up and do something dangerous, I wanted to ask a few questions...

<snip>

2. if I accidentally swallow some of the "mold" will it be dangerous?
3. Some people on here have said to not bother with tea but just crush them up and swallow. ???
4. Becasue they are dry, brittle, and hollow except for seeds, will they still do what I want them to do?

I'm sorry I am so vague here but even though I have Googled and read about this stuff, I am still confused and want to be sure I get the right kind, and eat it the right way and use the right amount.

Any suggestions would be very appreciated.

Yeah, they are commonly used for decorative purposes

2. I would throw moldy pods to trash as some molds can be very unhealthy to consume. Although i have ingested pods that have been maybe a LITTLE bit moldy inside and am still alive... But what i have read about the subject it is wisest to just throw them away. Moldy pods are easy to recognize, i suggest googling/searching bluelight for more info on the subject if in doubt. The have this earthly smell and fuzzy growth inside.

3. If you eat the grounds instead of tea they will last longer but the come-up will take much longer too. It is also very much material to eat too, i haven't even tried that myself.

4. Yes, that's how they are supposed to be. You can also take out the seeds before making tea and plant them to get more poppies if possible, or make tea from the seeds later when you have them enough. I usually don't include the seeds in my tea.

Remeber the size of the pods can vary greatly:
If i have the largest giganteum pods, i use 5-8 without tolerance for a nice high/nodding even
but with the much smaller variety i have to use 40-80 for same effects. Always test your batch with safe amount to find out the potency!

And as tommy said above about the pH, i too usually make the tea acidic with lemon juice or ascorbic acid to get the goods out better. Whether this really affects the potency of the brew, i can't say for sure. I have been pondering this for years...

Also if you want to get everything out of your brew then drink some white grapefruit juice (from 2-3 fresh grapes) an hour or so before ingesting your brew. This will make more codeine convert into morphine.

It helps also to grind the pods as fine powder as possible so their surface area that reacts with water increases.

I usually boil the water first and make it acidic, then wait it to cool down a little and throw the poppy grounds in it. Then let it simmer for an hour, stirring occasionally (lesser time will do also, but it's better to let it simmer longer on cooler temperature). Don't boil.

edit. Since you have so small amount of them, i'd definitely suggest to make another batch from them after the first one. You should get at least 2 "boils" (simmers) off them...Nothing stops you from trying even more tho

double-edit. Almost forgot the thing i came to ask in the first place:D :

Does anybody use the straws also?

I find them very usable myself if you have no tolerance. Not an earthshattering high or anything like that but they surely do their job if used enough.
 
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I really appreicate the replies! I suppose I just need to buy a lot and experiement. it sounds like so much work to do for something that may not even work . lol. But.... when the script is gone and I have days before refills I need something to fget me by. I sure wish I could ask and get an answer of WHERE would be the best place to buy but I suppose your not suppose to do that. If I knew I was getting the "right kind" from a place that someone had used before with good results, that would at least take that variable out of the equation. Thanks again very much!!
 
I've just been reading some of the methods of preparation on this page, and personally I feel like my ways are way more effective, maybe i'm crazy.

Usually i'll just 'toss n' wash' my pods. I grind them up as fine as possible with a metal herb grinder, put 2 teaspoons are so within a folded piece of paper, take a drink of a liquid(but don't swallow), funnel the pods in your mouth and chase with another big gulp. The high when eating the dried pods is more efficient and lasts much longer - just be careful and I wouldn't recommend someone who is addicted using this method cause the WDs would be insane. Grind the pods up as fine as possible - because you don't want to shit blood.

When I want to make tea I grind up the pods, put them in a cup, pour in some hot but not boiling water, leave them soak in there for 25-40 minutes, with occasional heavy stirring. Than strain into a new glass, I cut like a 10inx10in square from an old t-shirt and place it over the 2nd glass, once all the tea filters through, that's when you squeeze the hell out of the ball of grinds within the cotton square to get an additional significant amount of potent stuff.
 
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Yeah eating them is surely the best way to get everything out of them, i really just couldn't imagine eating so much of the powder. It would be too uncomfortable for my stomach. If you have potent pods and have to eat less, then why not.

Did i understand right, you really need only 2 teaspoons of the powder? How many/what sized pods is that?

How long does the come-up take that way?
 
I was referring to two teaspoons at a time, anything more can be choking.

Yeah I wasn't really considering people with very high opiate tolerance,the body load from eating a bunch of pods would be too much. That's the biggest downfall to toss n'wash - the body load/nausea(motion sickness pills can only go so far). Once I dosed too much and violently puked all night and was unable to enjoy any sort of euphoric feeling, so I took a long ass break from eating, but now i'm back to it.

When I eat the pods I gradually dose, will take 2~teaspoons every 10 minutes or so until desired effects are reached(take it slow, don't overdose and die), since the high lasts at such a length you don't have to worry about 'wasting' a dose. The times I did consume my entire dose within a short period of time the full effects were felt around at roughly an hour and a half.
 
Also if you want to get everything out of your brew then drink some white grapefruit juice (from 2-3 fresh grapes) an hour or so before ingesting your brew. This will make more codeine convert into morphine.

It helps also to grind the pods as fine powder as possible so their surface area that reacts with water increases.

I usually boil the water first and make it acidic, then wait it to cool down a little and throw the poppy grounds in it. Then let it simmer for an hour, stirring occasionally (lesser time will do also, but it's better to let it simmer longer on cooler temperature). Don't boil.

edit. Since you have so small amount of them, i'd definitely suggest to make another batch from them after the first one. You should get at least 2 "boils" (simmers) off them...Nothing stops you from trying even more tho

double-edit. Almost forgot the thing i came to ask in the first place:D :

Does anybody use the straws also?

I find them very usable myself if you have no tolerance. Not an earthshattering high or anything like that but they surely do their job if used enough.

Codeine cannot be converted into morphine. Maybe you got confused with the unreacted morphine left in diacetyl morphine (I've been wrong before though but I'm pretty sure about this.)

Would a chemistry major please chime in and tell us why lowering the pH with lemon juice would make a more potent teas, converting some actives into a more bioavailable form...or something? How? Why?
 
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