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The Big & Dandy N-Ethyl-Norketamine Thread

fuller89 said:
recrystallization?

Any way; Just re-read the entire thread; slightly frustrated at the lack of useful details and the sheer number of "I'm going to try 100mg intranasally tomorrow..." type posts. In my legendary hypocrisy I'll add my input. Tried this substance before (at first release) was unimpressed as I recall. My 250mg sample was split & the feeling I remeber most on finishing the small quantity was that it would take at least 300-400mg IM to receive anything worthwhile. I've just ordered 500mg and plan to IM 400mg tomorrow on arrival. Depending on Royal Fail's service that is...

Watch this space!

*nb: 400mg IM might seem like a large dosage for some; but it stress I still retain a huge tolerance from extensive MXE abuse.
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I am interested in how IM will be compared to nasal but beware bioavailability via IM can be many times more than the nasal route...
 
fuller89 said:
recrystallization?

Any way; Just re-read the entire thread; slightly frustrated at the lack of useful details and the sheer number of "I'm going to try 100mg intranasally tomorrow..." type posts. In my legendary hypocrisy I'll add my input. Tried this substance before (at first release) was unimpressed as I recall. My 250mg sample was split & the feeling I remeber most on finishing the small quantity was that it would take at least 300-400mg IM to receive anything worthwhile. I've just ordered 500mg and plan to IM 400mg tomorrow on arrival. Depending on Royal Fail's service that is...

Watch this space!

*nb: 400mg IM might seem like a large dosage for some; but it stress I still retain a huge tolerance from extensive MXE abuse.
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Considering the uncertainty about whether this stuff is cut or not, I would advise against IMing it. I know everyone is probably itching for an IM report, but in this case I would rather determine the purity of the compound first to make sure the physiological reactions reported are merely a result of the compound itself and not a cut which has been added.

Whatever you do, please filter it with micron filters first and follow sterility procedures.
 
Survived Abortion said:
Considering the uncertainty about whether this stuff is cut....
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Having taken all the usual precautions (choosing not to list them assuming 'common' sense) I IM'd 200mg and at T+15m IM'd another 300mg. Overall impressions underwhelmed; Completely unable to hole from this material... It does bring a lot of the familiar feelings of Ketamine although it certainly lacks the immersion. Sadly nothing amazing to report; to sum up - I won't miss this if impending legislation comes about. It might be pleasant for someone new to dissociatives but the lack of a meaningful hole experience or total immersion at heroic dosages makes the chem a slight let down for me.
 
fuller89 said:
Having taken all the usual precautions (choosing not to list them assuming 'common' sense) I IM'd 200mg and at T+15m IM'd another 300mg. Overall impressions underwhelmed; Completely unable to hole from this material... It does bring a lot of the familiar feelings of Ketamine although it certainly lacks the immersion. Sadly nothing amazing to report; to sum up - I won't miss this if impending legislation comes about. It might be pleasant for someone new to dissociatives but the lack of a meaningful hole experience or total immersion at heroic dosages makes the chem a slight let down for me.
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wow so the price really is absurd. ive tested only 250mgs and felt that with increased dosage there might be some interesting fx...
waiting for some 2meoketamine to see if that comes close do good old k. prices are much better thats all i know for now :D
 
what dosage should I use on N-ethyl-Norketamine if I am going to swallow it? no snorting/IV'ing suggestions. just bombing.
will the dose have to be really high so thats why You guys are snorting it or ... ?


edit: anybody? its sitting right here in front of me and im quite eager to give it a try!

now if i got to bomb 500mg or sniff 250mb for same effects then ill fucking do the sniffing thing..some idiots sniff tobacco-type of stuff as well, swedes, we call them. (was meant as a friendly joke, dont take it to heart, SWE :))

I have the completely fight almost straight up powdery crystals with one or two mini crystals left two break (in case i do sniff, which i HATE).

thats why im asking? would bombing it be such a bad idea?



Thank You in advance for any advice You might have!
 
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Hello, Dear BL'ers, Merry Christmas to You and Yours!

Can someone please answer, im still waiting to try it but its all behind the problem of me not knowing how to avoid the snorting part by finding out how much i need to swallow/bomb!!! (without using like 2-3grams to bomb and then feel it like You would from a dose 4 times smaller if sniffed or 8 times smaller if IV'd.

Also, would it help any if I drank my usual dose of 120mg methadone before N-E-NorK?

i also have plenty of benzos..

thank You!
 
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i have a high dissociative tolerance and needed 220mgs snorted to feel like 100-120 ketamine(wich would be a low dose for me). i haven't tried oral but my feeling is that you would need 2x the amount or more for the same results but just in case that it hits harder oral start very low and build it up gradualy. there isn't much info on the diffrent roa's of this chem so be careful. also dissociatives potentate opiates so keep that in mind too...
 
@tyler - In my opinion it's just not a worthwile drug no matter how much you infufflate, and oral dosing is supposed to be just asineffective. From this thread it seems like sublingual is the only way to go, so maybe try that.

Thanks for the reams of anecdote and opinion on opiates, benzos and barbituates that makes up the bulk of your post. I'll print it out and use it as a guide the next time I get hold of any downers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfGW-TgiEuo
 
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i plugged a total of about 500mg of this spaced over two doses last night. Bear in mind I don't have much of a dissociative tolerance at all. Well fuck me it was very nice, I think I've found by far the best moa for this drug. It's a shame that on a whole it's so darn cost ineffective. Lets be straight here, I'd say at maximum potential it is about 6/10ths of what ketamine is. I was lying in bed skirting a k-hole for a good half hour, travelling on tantalizing trains of thought as per special K. I was fully immersed, forgot I had a body and all that, but I just couldn't enter a hole. I sort of put my toes over the egde though; while contemplating the interconnected paths of all the configurations and all the energy that flows through these configurations in the universe, especially in the temporal dimension, I felt my being stretch backwards through time, existing simultaneously as all the movements that led up to my current being. That was pretty cool. At about double the price of street K though, honestly, not really worth it.
 
wayab said:
why wouldnt he mention it was fiction? did adder ever coment on the question "are the reports genuine?"
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Would you comment "hey here are a bunchnof reports i just made up based on SAR speculation and basic arylcyclohexylamine knowledge?" I doubt it. There are many inconsistencies in his reports that caused skepticism in those also working with these substances, and now that a few of these analogs have hit the market big time and are in complete contrast to his reports there is no doubt his write up is fiction. BTCP, bromadol? Gimme a break. Notice how he covered all the well known modifications, and theN after methoxetamine was release edited his post to include n something very similar? Several more of his "reports" don't match up to actual trials with these substances. Sorry, but I, and many others, call bullshit.

Trust beagle, hugo24, and a few others from the old days, not some young kid also claiming to work with fentanyl analogs as a teenager. Seriously? Book knowledge and speculation is one thing. Claiming these as actual human trials is downright wrong.
 
500mgs plugged without holing? Man this stuff is shite as shite can be, ever was and ever will be :\
 
Ok so I have never been big on dissociative's Like in my opinion PCP is devil water and smells like total death. I def. didnt like MXE that shit was way too crazy and it fucked hard with my head. Ive robotripped twice and the second time it was with extra strength DXM And I loved it. Ive done k a few times only really liked while already on other drugs mostly psychadelics And Good Coke and Real K is The most Amazing high ever. But I tell you this with about two beers in me 250 mgs (bag listed weight) (looked short to me but have no mg scale) I did half sublingal and the other half up my nose took a bong rip And Blast off I was high as kite saw double -crazy body high- hard to walk on and function - Laughed alot- Hard to talk full sentences- But overall Pretty Awesome. Experience lasted roughly an hour with an hour residual high. I am interested in 2-meo-K It sucks that I cant get real k around my area but thats the breaks. I would probably purchase more of this next festival season to spice up and my nights a little more interesting. Anyone have a similar experience to mine with this chem. I have heard many mixed messages on this chem from folks. Im thinking the real dissociative heads think its shit cause its a rc and different effects from the real deal. Or the other thought is that a lot of people bought NEK from a shitty source that could be in all reality a great shop just with a shitty version of NEK. Or I react way differently from drugs then most folks. Or because I have never been a fan of the dissociative side of drugs perfering Relaxing or Stimulating/euphoric type drugs Any Thoughts on any of this ????? Oh yeah and Merry belated Christmas.
 
Nor-Ketamine also have a izomers like a ketamine?
Some time ago I hear nor-ketamine effects is a similar to racemat of Ketamine,
But I looking it effects of S izomer
 
Qlimus Serotoninus said:
Yes I do. I mean N-Ethyl... It was just a shortcut think... Sorry ;)
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norketamine is mostly inactive centrally, but has unwanted side effects on the body. it is a metabolism product of ketamine in the human body, and likely also of N-ethyl-norketamine. despite the misleading name, N-ethyl-norketamine is actually closer related to ketamine than to norketamine. that's why norketamine is a really misleading shortcut when talking about N-ethyl-norketamine. ;)
 
As I looked at the NMR spectrum - didn't anyone think there could be no chlorine on C2 in the aromatic ring?
 
I quote myself: (see here): "I guess there must be a reason Parke-Davis used the name ketamine for ketamine and not for one of its close analogues. if only we knew about their orginal research..."

anyways, I am really puzzled about the ARC SAR now after ingesting all those compounds... :?

EDIT: I have sampled all compounds mentioned, and both NENK and 2-MeO-K seem to be much weaker than regular K. how can it be...?

EDIT2: yes, I am just a poor lab mouse, but I really trust my vendors to have delivered pure samples of all compounds mentioned...

EDIT3: for the german-speakers, click here: http://www.drogen-forum.net/index.php?/topic/5539-methoxetamine/page__view__findpost__p__557218
 
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I think the problem with insufflating ruins the chemical. I agree with people who say its moreish but what makes me have second thoughts on the next dose is that I don't want to eff up my nasal cavity even more, IF I could even fit more of this crap up there.. Its still clogged from the last dose!!
 
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