Can't give you any hard numbers I'm afraid but definitely got the impression that the NENK is significantly weaker in effects.
The Big & Dandy N-Ethyl-Norketamine Thread
- Thread starter slo mo
- Start date
Can't give you any hard numbers I'm afraid but definitely got the impression that the NENK is significantly weaker in effects.
Having done NENK sublingual in doses up to 80mg, 150-200mg sub would be doable. The problem would not be pain or bitterness but rather foulness, iut would be not unlike holding fabric softener under your tongue.
Also.. 200mg sub? ORLY? I've been thinking about my sublingual experimenting and I think at most 10mg passes the membrane, the rest is oral ingestion, so you might as well cut out the middle man and drop NENK directly on an empty stomach, with a shotglass of water or OJ.
Also, that much alkaloid salt would be highly osmotic, sucking on the membranes more than being absorbed through them.
Also.. 200mg sub? ORLY? I've been thinking about my sublingual experimenting and I think at most 10mg passes the membrane, the rest is oral ingestion, so you might as well cut out the middle man and drop NENK directly on an empty stomach, with a shotglass of water or OJ.
Also, that much alkaloid salt would be highly osmotic, sucking on the membranes more than being absorbed through them.
Wrote this somewhere else:
I just put some 20-50mg under my tongue and it definately works, with this drug I think it doesnt matter how much or little you take its extremely mild.
But the sublingual ROA definately works even though Im only mildly dissociated.
Its less euphoric than MXE and less dissociating but it also feels cleaner at what it does, that means no confusion.
The stuff I have is sold as NENK and it must be one of the most decadent drugs of this planet, money wise, coke is on second place now.
It might have the anti-depressant effect that seemingly all the dissociatives share.
@ Asante I dont have the foul taste, just mostly bitter and it looks somewhat like sugar.
I just put some 20-50mg under my tongue and it definately works, with this drug I think it doesnt matter how much or little you take its extremely mild.
But the sublingual ROA definately works even though Im only mildly dissociated.
Its less euphoric than MXE and less dissociating but it also feels cleaner at what it does, that means no confusion.
The stuff I have is sold as NENK and it must be one of the most decadent drugs of this planet, money wise, coke is on second place now.
It might have the anti-depressant effect that seemingly all the dissociatives share.
@ Asante I dont have the foul taste, just mostly bitter and it looks somewhat like sugar.
Round 3 - 120mg NENK sublingual.
The taste is bad but also the numbing is strong, so that helped.
As I was ascending, it was as if the whole world held its breath. I came into a cocoon of quiet and peace. Noises from the outside world were dampened and made more quiet, noises I made within my cocoon, shifting in my chair, smoking a cig, were loud by contrast. Depth, shape and color of the visual field were enhanced. Everything looked soft, comfortable. I became ever more peaceful, breath slowing and shallowing, my thoughts mildening and slowing, letting the peace take me.
With closed eyes only very faint visuals in a green mist that had form.
There was some belching as I relaxed more and more. Around 45min into it I began to get mild bowel cramps, the point where my stomach empties into my intestine. This was an annoying disturbance of the peace.
It was almost as if I had taken a sedative, there was no bang, no wow, no inspiration and bending of thought like I'm used to and much enjoy in Methoxetamine, all there was was this beautiful quiet peace.
I can no longer make a gram potency estimate compared to MXE, the drugs are too dissimilar. The effects are very mild but the dose was relatively strong. It was massively uneventful, if that makes sense. I have no doubt that now, 1:30 later if I were to take just 30mg MXE I'd be devoured by a Hole. It was strong in its mildness.
Is it worth it? I have to conclude, no. Not worth paying the money for, not worth eating so many milligrams of a substance which probably shares a problematic metabolite with ketamine.
Sublingually, by itself, the drug is a disappointment, it needs other ROA and combinations to shine, if shine it will. I see no point in taking the dose higher.
The taste is bad but also the numbing is strong, so that helped.
As I was ascending, it was as if the whole world held its breath. I came into a cocoon of quiet and peace. Noises from the outside world were dampened and made more quiet, noises I made within my cocoon, shifting in my chair, smoking a cig, were loud by contrast. Depth, shape and color of the visual field were enhanced. Everything looked soft, comfortable. I became ever more peaceful, breath slowing and shallowing, my thoughts mildening and slowing, letting the peace take me.
With closed eyes only very faint visuals in a green mist that had form.
There was some belching as I relaxed more and more. Around 45min into it I began to get mild bowel cramps, the point where my stomach empties into my intestine. This was an annoying disturbance of the peace.
It was almost as if I had taken a sedative, there was no bang, no wow, no inspiration and bending of thought like I'm used to and much enjoy in Methoxetamine, all there was was this beautiful quiet peace.
I can no longer make a gram potency estimate compared to MXE, the drugs are too dissimilar. The effects are very mild but the dose was relatively strong. It was massively uneventful, if that makes sense. I have no doubt that now, 1:30 later if I were to take just 30mg MXE I'd be devoured by a Hole. It was strong in its mildness.
Is it worth it? I have to conclude, no. Not worth paying the money for, not worth eating so many milligrams of a substance which probably shares a problematic metabolite with ketamine.
Sublingually, by itself, the drug is a disappointment, it needs other ROA and combinations to shine, if shine it will. I see no point in taking the dose higher.
No you misunderstand: I normally need 90-120mg MXE to Hole, but I expected to be able to on 30mg because I had used the NENK. I didnt put it to the test though, I stayed sober.
NENK and MXE synergize, see my earlier posts in this topic.
NENK and MXE synergize, see my earlier posts in this topic.
in how many doses? what was the experiance like
Lol, what I meant was about 450mg sniffed over about seven hours. Then a 300mg bomb which I took another time. About 10 minutes ago I blew my nose and got a nose bleed. This is the second time NEK has given me a nose bleed, I've NEVER had one from any other drug.
But thanks for your concern Asante.
Pontifex, I think that the trouble the noninjectors are having are due to decreasing bioavailability as the dose increases. I think if you inject it should be possible to hole on it, and the dose might not even be that different from Ketamine in IM.
Please be very careful though, if this drug has downsides, injection is where they are going to surface.
Please be very careful though, if this drug has downsides, injection is where they are going to surface.
Obsidius
Bluelighter
- Joined
- Oct 8, 2012
- Messages
- 188
i recently tried 80mg sublingual dissolved in 95% ethyl. i wasnt quite impressed by it although i certainly felt some effects. later i bumped a bit mxe and tried again with the same dose. this time it was far more wobbly, so i guess it needs either a way higher dose, a specific route or a solid basis to get flowing.
I got throught 250mg it didn't do as mutch as id expected