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The Big & Dandy N-Ethyl-Norketamine Thread

If you use it as a booster, I see that only working well if you boost another Dissociative.
 
Plenty. Not that i need to justify my existence to you or anyone else.
The point I was making is - if i ingest a chemical its because i want to, not to score bluelight points on a thread full of internet strangers, a thread that will disappear into obscurity once this chemical is banned anyway.

But hey, its his body, i was just stating my opinon. He's gunna feel like a right tit if his arm drops off tho ay ?
 
pontifex01 said:
Just wanted to say:

I've ordered 250mg of this stuff, I will IM it since everybody else seems reluctant to do it, and report back.
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I vote for doing the IM alone and not as a booster or complement with another substance. I would very much appreciate a follow up!
 
justinsayno said:
The point I was making is - if i ingest a chemical its because i want to, not to score bluelight points on a thread full of internet strangers
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Fine, as you say it was IYO. IMO your post came across a bit rude :)

a thread that will disappear into obscurity once this chemical is banned anyway.
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The chemical is banned in several places but still widely consumed in those places. I doubt it'll just disappear.

EDIT Actually that's bollocks, this will most likely disappear, I was thinking we were talking about MXE.
 
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I've looked through the thread mostly but I don't think theres been much info mentioned on an N-Ethyl-Norketamine and MDMA combination?

Has anyone had any experience with this - Anyone with good chemical knowledge can give an educated assumption on whether this would work? Kitty flipping is a well documented combination so my thoughts are if this N-ENK is very similar to ketamine this combination could be good.

Also, I have just had 110mg insufflated - T+20mins: Feel very good, I have had experience with MXE and DXM but not with Ketamine yet. I have zero tolerance to dissociatives currently, I last did MXE over a year ago. I took a 20mg allergy test 45mins ago. Things I have noticed: Numbness of teeth, lips and general analgesic effects. My thoughts arent very muddled or slow like a moderate to high dose of DXM would be or similar with MXE, it just feels very euphoric and stimulating. I smoked a bowl 15mins after, which definitely enhanced the effects quickly. People have also been talking about how painful this is on the nose. I don't have alot of experience insufflating substances, worse has been MDMA. This does not feel that bad to be honest, I made sure to crush it up very thoroughly, making it into a very fine powder. There was a very strong sting instantly for the first 5-10s, but as soon as it came it went away. The drip is not as strong as MXE in my opinion. It also feels quite stimulating - heart rate has increased and sweating slightly despite how cold it is.

Overall I very much like this compound.
 
Its an allergy test just like inhaling a blast of pepperspray is an allergy test ^_^

Seriously though yes, if you take 20mg and are allergic it could be ambulance time.
 
I've looked through the thread mostly but I don't think theres been much info mentioned on an N-Ethyl-Norketamine and MDMA combination?
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I'm wondering the same thing! I found N-ethyl-Norketamine a little bit "speedier" than ketamine when you stop the session, ala MXE comedown but way less jittery. Maybe a serotoninergic like MDMA and N-ethyl-norketamine may carry more risks than Ketamine+MDMA? What about 6-APB and NENK? Methylone and NENK?

I find the antidepressant effect of NENK quasi inexistant. I didn't find Ketamine antidepressent effet yet too, but I tried ketamine just twice so i'm not expermimented at all in this field.
 
thikal said:
I'm wondering the same thing! I found N-ethyl-Norketamine a little bit "speedier" than ketamine when you stop the session, ala MXE comedown but way less jittery. Maybe a serotoninergic like MDMA and N-ethyl-norketamine may carry more risks than Ketamine+MDMA? What about 6-APB and NENK? Methylone and NENK?

I find the antidepressant effect of NENK quasi inexistant. I didn't find Ketamine antidepressent effet yet too, but I tried ketamine just twice so i'm not expermimented at all in this field.
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Are you depressed normally? You said the comedown is more like MXE, did you get irrational feelings of depression and unhappiness from it? (Just asking because I get that from MXE after some heavy abuse)

I cant wait to try this one but I am yet to find a vendor stocking it.
 
No i'm not depressed hehe. But with Salvia for exemple, you really feel an antidepressent effect. No with MXE i feel a surge in energy at the end of the experiment, insomnia and a crave to cool down with gabaergics or opiates (but less than a stimulant). I don't heavy abuse MXE, an found that plugging reduce the duration of the residual stimulation. (but that's not the subject^^)

Ketamine was totally pure of this shitty residual stimulation for me 0/10, NENK 2/10, MXE 10/10 to give you a picture. (sorry for my approximative language, I hope you can understand me^^)

I hope NENK will add peace and calm at the end of a 6-APB or methylone trip. If someone tried this combo, please share it with me ;)
 
Sure, it wasn't really much of an allergy test to be honest. I was drunk when I tried it so I really should have thought about it more, I definitely should not have done that much either. In the end I thought it was terrible. For that hour and a half from first dose to redose were great, huge rush, sudden urge to do things. As I came down from the head rush high I felt terrible. The dissociative effect lasted for hours, I'm not sure how come, I smoked alot during and after - I was drunk to begin with - I have also been having a small dose of piracetam for the last week, maybe some of these affected it. After 3 hours I really wanted to sleep as it was 5am and I thought it was only going to last an hour. I was in some sort of weird dissociated but stimulated uncomfortable mental space, my heart rate was high and I couldn't relax it for hours - it was 6/7hours after the initial dose that my heart rate died down enough for me to sleep, somewhat. I kept waking up, thinking I was in some completely foreign room, there were loads of fractal patterns floating around the ceiling and general morphing of everything. Normally I would have found this fun but I just felt so physically awful, as if I was coming down from a big night of MDMA, but even that isnt as bad, it was bizarre, I really felt terrible. The next day nothing could interest me, no appetite, no happiness. Maybe this is something to do with dopamine release, somewhere I read it acts on the dopamine receptors, this could be what causes the initial rush and stimulation. But the crash was bad. I said my nose felt fine when I did it and it did, but thats because everything was numbed, I couldn't feel my lips again until at least 5 hours later. But the next day and all the following days my nose was destroyed. I thought I had made it into a fine powder but it still blocked my nose for 4 days and I've been blowing horrible shit out since, including blood mixed with the crap, no full on nose bleed though. I certainly will not be wanting to try this again.
 
I received a sample of this with stuff just after methoxetamine was put on the temporary scheduled in the list UK back in march. I tried it and wasn't too keen on the amount I needed to take for the effects it produced. After reading what other peoples are saying that is mixes well with mxe I might give it another try, mxe is my favourite of all the dissociatives so fingers crossed :-)

Dear me 20% for an allergy test Jesus Christ that's beyond reckless. I always do 1% of a threshold dose then once that doesn't show any negative signs I then take 5%. Taking un researched chemicals is dangerous enough so I do whatever i can to cut any risk.
keep safe everyone :D
 
I soaked some NEK in acetone, estimated 300mg in 3mls and heated, then discarded the acetone and tried the NENK.

A small bump, ~15mg confirmed that it still stang unpleasantly, but I was surprised that I could feel it distinctly, akin to 5-10mg of MXE. I then insufflated some water and a further 26mg, which gave a pleasant dissociation akin to ~15-20mg of MXE and still gave nasal discomfort. It lasted for about 50 minutes from the last dose, with a dissociative fuzz lasting to ~t+2. It is difficult to compare to any other dissociative at this low dose. My nose was blocked slightly for the rest of the evening.

I woke up with a considerable amount of caked blood in the nostril which I took the first bump into. I did not wet this before insufflation.

In conclusion:
Acetone washing appears to increase purity, but I cannot and will not compare to unwashed product as due to the nasal damage.
Moistening nostrils before snorting may reduce membrane damage. It is too simple to not do this.
 
Well I have determined that it is not the material itself that is corrosive but the initial configuration it arrives in. How I hear you think? With a mortar and pestle, alas, now I've gone TOO FAR the other way, and I have a pile of drug dust so fine it goes straight down my god damn throat when I sniffy sniffy it. What can I do fellow ketanauts?
 
upping the dosage!

KingBlueTwista said:
...TOO FAR the other way, and I have a pile of drug dust so fine it goes straight down my god damn throat when I sniffy sniffy it. What can I do...?
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recrystallization?

Any way; Just re-read the entire thread; slightly frustrated at the lack of useful details and the sheer number of "I'm going to try 100mg intranasally tomorrow..." type posts. In my legendary hypocrisy I'll add my input. Tried this substance before (at first release) was unimpressed as I recall. My 250mg sample was split & the feeling I remeber most on finishing the small quantity was that it would take at least 300-400mg IM to receive anything worthwhile. I've just ordered 500mg and plan to IM 400mg tomorrow on arrival. Depending on Royal Fail's service that is...

Watch this space!

*nb: 400mg IM might seem like a large dosage for some; but it stress I still retain a huge tolerance from extensive MXE abuse.
 
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