Problems with getting visuals on LSD
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Whatsamatau
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Roger that.
Shambles
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Sephirah
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To loosely quote McKenna: "alone in silent darkness, and close your eyes with the quiet expectation of seeing something."
^ Roger that and out
Not necessarily...
Smoking cannabis can give it a kick though
While I admit nothing compares to high dose LSD visuals, I find medium doses quite visual although they're not as obvious as high doses. I wish I knew how much ug my LSD trips were so I know what kinda "high dose" im talking about.
I love high doses of LSD, that's when you get the complete warping affect of everything and the walls look like water being rippled as if an object as dropped "into" it. Of course the visuals are not the only interesting/profound thing about LSD and high doses of it, visuals are the least significant part of the trip from my experiences.
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It seems people think of lsd as something purely visual, like everyone just takes acid for the visuals, people forget about the actual high, and the body high. Like you know that feeling where your just going with the flow and its just flowing and it speeds up and it slows down and it bends and widens and then you realize it's happening all at once!
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PepperSocks
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I don't find visuals to be a good way of judging the "strength" of a trip. Have had insane visuals from fairly low-dose acid and little/no visuals from high-strength acid. Set and setting play more of a role than dose when it comes to visuals, in my opinion.
For what it's worth, I rarely get strong visuals from any psyches but can have extremely strong mental effects - which is what tripping is about. Visuals are more a fun side-show as far as I'm concerned
My thoughts exactly. For some reason LSD always stands out as producing the most powerful visuals but it's most definitely a side effect that is a spin-off from what's going on in my mind. If I pay attention to the visuals and try to focus on them, bingo; they're gone.
You're mind creates the visuals. The reason LSD provides the most powerful visuals for me is because LSD has the most powerful effect on opening my mind.
Get into your trip, visuals will follow, and when they do come, just recognize them, don't focus on them, let your mind flow...
coelophysis
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Wow, I feel the visuals are 100% necessary to assist me in figuring out the details of reality and how I arrive in my trippy headspace. It's all part of the same and it's as significant to me as the mental effects. Since our vision is just our mind filtering information it receives. Sometimes I feel like people will say the visuals aren't that important only to sound like they're deeper or something. By allowing myself to submerge in the visuals and let go of my mind I've wound up in some crazy places 
PepperSocks
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FWIW I've found the lighter, more recreational trips to be more visual. The trips where I'm caught up on something and working through it are usually completely mental without any visuals.
It's not to sound "deeper" it's just what I've experienced
It's not to sound "deeper" it's just what I've experienced
coelophysis
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I'm more talking about people I know in person who act this way. And talk down on people who just wanna talk about the visuals. I need visuals, I always think trippy :D
fizzacyst
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Quite honestly, if you aren't being "taken over" by it, your stuff is not even REMOTELY near 250ug/hit. Its probably under 50ug. I'm not trying to be insulting or anything its just not that strong. Even if you are getting inner-circle stuff its probably not that strong. Everyone overestimates the strength, and most dealers don't know wtf they are talking about.
I've eaten measured amounts of LSD crystal twice, and before that I overestimated the potency of everything I had as well. 200ug was QUITE strong, 400ug decimated me. I don't easily get much visual effect from most psychedelics and I was hallucinating so hard I couldn't walk w/o slamming into stuff.
After that, I'd say with some confidence that most LSD is dosed at under 75ug or so... perhaps initially at 100ug for better stuff, which is rarely stored correctly before getting to the end user.
Edit:
Just read your 2nd post about taking 4-6 hits typically. Yeah, for sure, your stuff is probably under 50ug man. If you took 4-6 hits of 150ug stuff you would be drooling all over yourself unable to speak.
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I've eaten measured amounts of LSD crystal twice, and before that I overestimated the potency of everything I had as well. 200ug was QUITE strong, 400ug decimated me. I don't easily get much visual effect from most psychedelics and I was hallucinating so hard I couldn't walk w/o slamming into stuff.
After that, I'd say with some confidence that most LSD is dosed at under 75ug or so... perhaps initially at 100ug for better stuff, which is rarely stored correctly before getting to the end user.
Edit:
Just read your 2nd post about taking 4-6 hits typically. Yeah, for sure, your stuff is probably under 50ug man. If you took 4-6 hits of 150ug stuff you would be drooling all over yourself unable to speak.
namaste
Hmm that's not really how it works for me it seems. On substances like 2C-B if I don't concentrate on anything and get distracted by just what goes on, the trip including the visuals move to the background. It's so malleable, if I conjure up imagery though and try to play with my visual I/O it suddenly flows and gets special effects added...
I get what you're saying though, there are other psychedelics that do their thing better in the part of your visual field where you're not focussing - lowish dose LSD may do that...
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I took 2 hits last night, they're supposed to be 100ug a piece and I was indeed tripping quite hard. One thing I noticed is that when I concentrated on the resonating carrier waves (which were getting really deep and loud) I started to see the multicoloured waveforms in everything. The more I listened to the carrier waves and the deeper I went, the stronger the visual manifestation of the waves became
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That sounds more reasonable. 200ug should have you fucking lifted.
You have to bear in mind that even if you did get the advertised amount, you don't know what the purity is (it could easily be 50% active isomer to begin with, not taking into consideration the overall purity... say a mix of isomers and only 70% of that is LSD, and 50% of that is the active compound, etc... and it probably wasn't stored that well...etc, etc...)
You have to bear in mind that even if you did get the advertised amount, you don't know what the purity is (it could easily be 50% active isomer to begin with, not taking into consideration the overall purity... say a mix of isomers and only 70% of that is LSD, and 50% of that is the active compound, etc... and it probably wasn't stored that well...etc, etc...)
Well that sounds like you were nearing a meditative state or something! That could explain the equivocal term 'focus', because if you try to hard to see something that is really not focus at all, but if you try meditation techniques that are quite paradoxical to explain (letting go, is that something you do or rather not-do ??) the trip including it's visuals can get very profound. This is the case without any drugs at all but it is only strengthened on something like acid
youve obviously never been in hyperspace on dmt then
DMT is different though, it's not distortions of your usual reality. It's completely different reality altogether, or so it feels that way.
well are you bigger built?
not fat, i mean like a bigger bone structure.
if so unlike the skinny little kids taking acid you might have to take more to get the same affect as them
try taking like 400ug
if not go smaller, or even bigger. the main rules: HAVE FUN ....and dont kill yourself in the process
and you will have a good time
when i took 900 (not tabs, ug's) there were crazy designs everywhere with a background of everything melting, faces were taking form in everything. cartoons on tv had designs within the colors of the characters and the beach-like music on spongebob was simply amazing
not fat, i mean like a bigger bone structure.
if so unlike the skinny little kids taking acid you might have to take more to get the same affect as them
try taking like 400ug
if not go smaller, or even bigger. the main rules: HAVE FUN ....and dont kill yourself in the process
and you will have a good time
when i took 900 (not tabs, ug's) there were crazy designs everywhere with a background of everything melting, faces were taking form in everything. cartoons on tv had designs within the colors of the characters and the beach-like music on spongebob was simply amazing
400ug is an insane amount and I doubt you took 900ug and didn't experience complete EGO destruction. Watching TV would have been the LEAST profound thing.
Get your facts together, and size has nothing to do with LSD's effects.
Please tell me you're joking. Go get educated on the drug please.
dread
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BTrips, you shouldn't believe the microgram talk of your acid dealer...
all the hits have at least 500 mcg if you ask the dealers :D
all the hits have at least 500 mcg if you ask the dealers :D