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Problems with getting visuals on LSD

I don't usually get much in the way of visuals on LSD, more like minor distortions. But then I'm probably used to seeing that kind of thing from my synaesthesia, so LSD for me is usually not about sensory input at all.
 
You have synaesthesia normally? What is it like when you take LSD? Can you describe in more detail how/if you think your experience differs from what others report (friends or online)?
 
For me, head-tripping happens a lot before visuals begin....ie. I can be flat out tripping bizllz, and yet not be overwhelmed by visuals. This is often the case with LSD...drugs like DMT seem to be visual first, for me at least.
 
bluedolphin said:
People will disagree with this:

But you most likely had low potency but high cleanliness LSD.

Lavender blotters layed at 70ug in 2004 were more visual than white crystal or other very pure crystals with slightly higher potency today.

There is just something about dirty acid that makes the trees twist at even low doses.

But I'll take 500ug of the clean stuff any day just to watch the clouds reach down and touch me. And with far less anxiety and tension than 100ug of some crappy crystal.

I speculate that clean LSD causes less anxiety and tension, therefore our brains are more relaxed, therefore the visuals are less "in your face" and more what you make of it.
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I like this theory. Do you think the visuals are a result of some of the impurities themselves, or the increased anxiety etc. caused by the impurities?
 
Gaian Planes said:
You have synaesthesia normally? What is it like when you take LSD? Can you describe in more detail how/if you think your experience differs from what others report (friends or online)?
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Well I normally have multiple channels of associative sensory input. Letters have colors, phonemes have flavors, grammar has texture, sound has temperature and color, images can have texture, etc. There's a lot of cross-sensory linkage and I've found they often extend to secondary, tertiary, and even more associations, though usually only one or two are noticeable without concentration.

Fortunately it's more of a sub-channel of data. I can turn the sensitivity to it up and down, kind of like tuning out other voices in a crowded room to listen to the person across from me. If I couldn't I would suspect the world would make no sense, and I sometimes wonder if some forms of autism are like this because I see autistics perform behaviors I sometimes do when exploring new things.

Anyway, on LSD I found it's much more of an internal experience for me. Different methods of thought and logical processes get exposed that are normally taken for granted. Many areas of the brain that are read-only become rewriteable, which is why it can probably be used as such a powerful tool in psychotherapy. I know some other intelligent people used to tell me they thought that with LSD or the right drug they could somehow unlock some untapped hidden potential of their mind. These people need to be careful what they wish for. I learned it the hard way, and it was a heavy price.
 
I find that if I am busy doing things while on LSD I don't seem to get as much visuals but if I just chill out and do nothing and let the trip take me I trip out a hell of a lot more...

I think set and setting has a lot to do with it as well... I find when I get really clean LSD I don't trip out as much either, it's more of a head trip.\
 
i'll take a low dose clean LSD blotter over a high dose dirty LSD blotter any day.
I hate tripping on dirty acid. Too much body load, more anxious trip.

I've always compared the visuals from dirty acid to an old fuzzy analogue TV, while the visuals from clean acid are more like a HD digital plasma TV! :)
 
This is going to be hard to explain so bare with me.

I have been taking a lot of acid over the past year. I usually take acid with mulitple friends and we all take the same stuff. I usually get pretty high quality stuff. Ranging from 150 to 250 mikes. The problem is, the acid never really seems to "take over" me, like shrooms. When i take shrooms, my visuals are intense and i dont need to focus on them. They're already there. Now, when i take acid, it seems like i need to focus on something, before it starts moving,waving ect.... even during my peak. Unlike my friends, they say they are in an acid world, where everything is moving and changing colors on them. Without focusing or concentrating. Ill be chilling with friends for hours, all of us taking mulitple drops/tabs. We will be just talking and having a good time, but nothing really catches my eye unless i focus on it,and keep focusing on it. usually when i do focus on something for a good amount of time, eventually the surrounding objects join in, and i begin to see more visuals, but once i lose my focus, it all goes away and i need to start all over. It becomes a hassle. Sometimes I actually forget that i even took the acid , untill i get home and im by myself, starring at a wall, for a good 5-10 seconds before it actually does anything. Now when i candyflip, the acid does take over me, where i dont need to focus on the acid in order to start tripping; and the visuals are all over.

Does anyone else have this problem?
 
I dont have that problem, do you smoke weed when you trip. Weed can enhance someones trip ten fold. Also LSD effects everyone differently maybe you have a natural tolerance or have built up a tolerance using it often. LSD you build up a tolernace almost instantly after first use. If thats the case take a break from it and it should be better next time.
 
I think this is a relatively common thing, tryptamines tend to have a type of deeper immersion that make the visuals more 'dreamy'. Dissociation into fantasy happens faster, same goes for mushrooms.

Cannabis indeed potentiates and makes visuals both stronger and brighter / warmly shining.
Reduction of mental clarity is not always entirely worth it though.

Just take a larger dose of acid next time! Or do you have issues keeping your thoughts on track?
 
So i did explain it well? I read it like 4 times after i wrote it and still wondered if it made sense.

Yes, i smoke weed all the time, escpecially the come up when im feeling anxious/anxiety. Weed does help, it makes me feel more relax and it lets the acid do its thing. It also helps me catch my fry, sometimes my come up will last for days, feeling weird and loopy. Then i smoke a joint and everything is all better. Tomorrow im picking up some ketamine, and im going to see how that works out with the acid. Hopefully it does the trick.

and i do take high doses, usually 4-6 hits, and my friends taking 2 or 3 hits seems to be WAY more out there then i am, it seems that i do have a high tolerence. but i do get a pretty good mental high, thinking 6 things at once.
I have had times where i take the same amount of acid or even less as other times, and i fry harder and see more visuals. For example:

i took 4 hits at the lake, i saw minor visuals. Still had fun and all..

3 days later, i took 2 hits and we were in my car, and i never had as many visuals then that night. But i dont get it, shouldnt i have less serotonin in my brain? or could it have been that i was in a better enviorment and i felt more comfortable?

Usually when i am frying i sit in my car and listen to techno and stare at something, and it begins to move. and after about 20 minutes of sitting in that car eventually everything around me is going crazy, but then the minute i step out of the car, i just feel fried, but no visuals, and then i have to start all over.... it gets frusterating, i dont want to focus, i just want to trip. My friends dont need the techno...sometimes im not like this though. Every once in a while it does take over me and i dont need to focus. Even when i take less amounts then normal.
 
Well just sounds like the way your brain naturally interacts with it I guess, naturally high tolerance. Set and setting are very important too, I find if im with a group of people i really feel connected to i can have a much more enjoyable trip.
 
Trying to force visuals is a great way to prevent them from happening. The psychedelic experience extends far deeper than its visual presentation, so stop worrying about it so much and just enjoy your trip.

LSD visuals are often just the icing on the cake anyway. Shift the emphasis from your eyeballs to your heart & mind and I think the problem will resolve itself...


Apologies if I misunderstood any aspects of your post...
 
sounds like you need more acid, in truth it doesnt sound very strong, or maybe you just have a natural tolerance higher than your friends.
 
Yeah i get this and its a pain in the arse . Ive always had to take double the dose as my friends to get the same effect . Thats what i do . It sucks . Ive nevr tried candy flipping tho .
 
I get great visuals. especially on tryptamines. Though a couple of friends say they really do not unless a high dosage is used. If ya want the visuals, do not redose IMO. Take enough to blow your mind and get those great visuals at the same time
 
I have the same thing on acid. I get patterns easily by looking at walls and stuff, but to really get good visuals I have to stare at something and focus. Then everything will start to move and change and I get much stronger visuals.
 
I don't find visuals to be a good way of judging the "strength" of a trip. Have had insane visuals from fairly low-dose acid and little/no visuals from high-strength acid. Set and setting play more of a role than dose when it comes to visuals, in my opinion.

For what it's worth, I rarely get strong visuals from any psyches but can have extremely strong mental effects - which is what tripping is about. Visuals are more a fun side-show as far as I'm concerned :)
 
I think setting has a lot to do with it....

I have been tripping face with very little visuals there on acid, loud music seems to kind of kill the visual aspect of it... But i can still get really fucking lost in my own head....
 
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