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mephedrone long term negative effects progress reports

hmmm yes, I wonder if it'll fix itself over time or if I'll be a mess forever :(

Any ideas anyone?
 
It's very likely that I'll heal over time, everyone who got side effects report they improved over time. It can take a lot, but it'll eventually get better.
I still have the impression the my heart is more sensible but the palpitations decreased a lot and now I get them more and more sparingly.
If you are concerned the advise is alwas the same: stop using any drug, eat healthy, exercise, in your case some vinpocetine, piracetam and choline supplementation can be useful. And try to not be anxious about it.
 

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Hahaha! Excellent comparison. I am guessing you have read ' A Scanner Darkly'
After a week long 10g binge not too long ago, It really could be substance D. A high so good that does, permanent damage, but as long as you are using it you don't notice the damages in you cognitive abilities and the changes to your personality. Just like substance D. I dunno if it could cause split personality like substance d but it def has most of the other side effects (Not unexpected, as Philip K Dick was an amphetamine addict and many side effects such as sleep deprevation psychosis and longer lasting possible neurosis should be expected of any centrally acting stimulant).

Slightly off topic - everyone here should check out the album 'Substance D' by Dieselboy, Especially the track 'Warning label'!

Cheers!
 
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Ok... I started using Mephedrone since early 2008 , and now have no more in my possession (I decided from the beginning that the notion of 'stocking' up when the ban came into effect in the UK was just a non starter) .. havent had any for 7 weeks, but prior to that used approx 1 gram on average every weekend for 2 years...
The good news is , is many of the negative effects associated with use (mouth ulcers, itchy skin rashes, slight loss of weight, palpitations, increasingly fragile mood swings being the main ones) have nearly disppeared. My appetite has increased, skin rashes/irritations have susbsided, moods feel a bit more stable.
The first week without Meph is without doubt the hardest, and to be honest for the first 3 weeks without usage my mood just felt flat. Life seemed to be just a drudgery that I had to face , but this time without any blanket of comfort. It took all told then , about 3 weeks before I felt any mental or physical improvements...
I do miss it a bit , but this has been dampened by the awareness of the problems meph bought... If i could find an RC which is only half as good as Mephedrone, but with less than half the side effects of Meph then I would happily settle for that as a kind of play off re: cost/benefits analysis of using Meph.
Of course like others here I worry a bit about possible long term damage I might have caused myself, but in the here and now I feel absolutely fine.
 
- I felt this! I felt like I was actually doing damage to my brain, and had to reign it in!

Maybe thats why my brain feels so screwed up 6 months later!

how do you mean your brain feels screwd up? because i think i have done some damage to mine and i have only done the drug maybe 8 times over 6 months, but my problems started after i took it on a night out and i have not felt the same since, i have being to a+e 3 times because i thought iwas having a heart attack i have a constant headache for over 2 months now and i just feel like nothing seems normal or real any more and things seem to move all the time and i have being having a lot of panic attcks and for 4 weeks after taking it i kept re experiencing the effects of taking it.
 
how do you mean your brain feels screwd up? because i think i have done some damage to mine and i have only done the drug maybe 8 times over 6 months, but my problems started after i took it on a night out and i have not felt the same since, i have being to a+e 3 times because i thought iwas having a heart attack i have a constant headache for over 2 months now and i just feel like nothing seems normal or real any more and things seem to move all the time and i have being having a lot of panic attcks and for 4 weeks after taking it i kept re experiencing the effects of taking it.

Essentially, I forget stuff, fail to notice things that I previously would have picked up on, spell things incorrectly (ie: writing ‘brake’ where I should have written ‘break’), have speech problems (can’t get out what I want to say, or say things in the wrong order or use the wrong words). I know what you mean about nothing seeming real, do you feel like your inside your body looking out while the world just goes on around you or something else?

Also, I randomly have involuntary movements. Its hard to say if I’ve experienced any anxiety/depression associated with it, as the above symptoms cause quite enough of that on their own.

I can’t say I’ve experienced any problems with heart rate etc

Great fun!

If its anything like MDMA/Pills I hope these things will heal themselves over time, fingers crossed.
 
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Slightly off topic - everyone here should check out the album 'Substance D' by Dieselboy, Especially the track 'Warning label'!

Heh...It's a fun album, but frankly, I prefer the Dick book and movie adaptation. :P
 
how do you mean your brain feels screwd up? because i think i have done some damage to mine and i have only done the drug maybe 8 times over 6 months

Also: what was the name of the mephedrone you were taking?
 
Also: what was the name of the mephedrone you were taking?

the person who gave me it said it was methedrone/mcat. and i only had i'd say 200mg of it but as soon as i had it i tripped out everything was moving all over it was not like pervious times on it, it was like i'd just had loads of acid tabs. the thing about things not seeming real yes it's how described but i think that is a thing called depersonalization/derealization which is linked to anxiety which does go away after time. i have a constant headache since aswel which ive being reffered to a neurologist so hopefully he can give me some answers
 
the person who gave me it said it was methedrone/mcat. and i only had i'd say 200mg of it but as soon as i had it i tripped out everything was moving all over it was not like pervious times on it, it was like i'd just had loads of acid tabs. the thing about things not seeming real yes it's how described but i think that is a thing called depersonalization/derealization which is linked to anxiety which does go away after time. i have a constant headache since aswel which ive being reffered to a neurologist so hopefully he can give me some answers

Cool man, I'm going to get some blood tests done, and then hopefully onto a neurologist. Stay in contact and let me know what the results are will you? A lot of my symptoms suggest damage to the basal ganglia but since thats my own diagnosis and I'm not doctor we'll wait and see what they think.

A lot of the symptoms you're reporting seem to subside after a period of time according to others who have reported it. It might take a while though. In the meantime refer to the previous posts where people have replied to me, particularly to the parts about trying not to be anxious.
 
Cool man, I'm going to get some blood tests done, and then hopefully onto a neurologist. Stay in contact and let me know what the results are will you? A lot of my symptoms suggest damage to the basal ganglia but since thats my own diagnosis and I'm not doctor we'll wait and see what they think.

A lot of the symptoms you're reporting seem to subside after a period of time according to others who have reported it. It might take a while though. In the meantime refer to the previous posts where people have replied to me, particularly to the parts about trying not to be anxious.

yea i'll let you know what happens, im going to see a cardiologist in 2 week and the neurologist is 3 weeks. i think once i have being to see them and if they says everything is ok then that should calm my anxiety down
 
Hi there people,

Just wanted to update you all on where I am.

Right now, its been 6 months since I had a heavy Mephedrone sesh, but really about 2.5 months since I last did it (a tiny amount). I don’t want to speak too early, but I have to say that my memory problems, and speech problems, as well as feelings of depression have noticeably subsided. That’s not to say they are gone, but they are definitely much improved. The sun seemed to help!

Unfortunately the involuntary movements are still occurring. I went to the docs, but he palmed me off about it, I’m still going to push to see a neurologist in the near future though just to be sure. That said, their frequency has lessened.

I’ll keep you all updated over the next 6 months.
 
Another bad experience with mephedrone here from me. Total usage 2.25g I reckon over 5-6 or 7 sessions, sometimes weeks apart.

Last time I tried it I insuffated about 50-100mg roughly (3 months ago roughly) before I noticed I had slightly blue fingers and feet and slightly itchy skin, also redder skin overall. The next day the blueness was gone bur I had a quite noticable tanning / skin darkening effect.
Since then I have been getting red/blushing skin on my hands, forearms, feet and lower legs. I have always been slightly blushy and had reddish palms, it definitely seems more pronounced now though and this has me fairly worried. No heart palpitations or any other symptoms apart from redness really. Still looking quite tanned, although I have dark hair and tan easily.

As for more background info I seem to have somrt sort of inflammatory problem in my back that flares up occasionally, (possibly have Anklyosing Spondylitis although docs are leaning away from that now) and get regular acid reflux / heartburn. I lift weights at the gym 3 times a week (no steroids) and have just started running, overall slim/athletic, fit and healthy (good diet, multivitamin).

I took some suppliments that are supposed to help cirulation but it didn't seem to help, these were: Ginko bilboa (dry pill form) L-arginine, a vitamin B complex and magnesium.

Any help or advice would be appreciated, or this info could just be useful info to someone else perhaps.

I thought the effects were going away but it stills seems noticable occasionally. The problem is I never paid much attention to it before and I may have been like this often before trying meph, only now I am concious of it and notice it more. I am almost certain i'm redder overall and blood returns to pressed skin slightly slower than before however.

Has anyone who has had the blushing/vasoconstrictive reaction actually had it go away at all? Thanks

Please have the tanning taken a look at. I am reading through the thread and this sign reminded me of Cushing's syndrome in which cortisol is elevated. Moreover, reports of increased blood pressure to hypertension level are akin to those of Cushing's syndrome and being mephedrone a stimulant, I would not be suprised if dangerously elevated cortisol due to mephedrone use was one of the keys here.
 
I think all the people whose hands, feet, and knees are turning blue, and the effect is lasting long after the drug exits the system, should go out and get checked for vasculitis. I have not seen this idea proposed anywhere else yet, but I believe it may fit the bill. Vasculitis can be caused by amphetamines and cocaine so it seems likely to me that mephedrone use could cause it, in those who are susceptible. It also seems very likely that mephedrone in immunosuppresant and vasculitis is an immune system problem.

Just my .02USD. I have some bad blood vessels in my left leg anyway that have been there a long time, but since I had a heavy mephedrone binge a couple weeks ago it feels like the blood vessels in both legs have been feeling inflamed, but it could also be shin splints. The feeling is not new, but seems more noticeable so I am thinking about going to a doc to see about getting checked for both, just in case. I have pretty large order on the way as well and don't want to be using this crap like I was, maybe get it down to once or twice a week, instead of 6-7 days no sleep binge. I am looking forward to it's arrival, though!

Cheers,
-SimStim
 
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I think all the people whose hands, feet, and knees are turning blue, and the effect is lasting long after the drug exits the system, should go out and get checked for vasculitis. I have not seen this idea proposed anywhere else yet, but I believe it may fit the bill. Vasculitis can be caused by amphetamines and cocaine so it seems likely to me that mephedrone use could cause it, in those who are susceptible. It also seems very likely that mephedrone in immunosuppresant and vasculitis is an immune system problem.

Just my .02USD. I have some bad blood vessels in my left leg anyway that have been there a long time, but since I had a heavy mephedrone binge a couple weeks ago it feels like the blood vessels in both legs have been feeling inflamed, but it could also be shin splints. The feeling is not new, but seems more noticeable so I am thinking about going to a doc to see about getting checked for both, just in case. I have pretty large order on the way as well and don't want to be using this crap like I was, maybe get it down to once or twice a week, instead of 6-7 days no sleep binge. I am looking forward to it's arrival, though!

Cheers,
-SimStim

A big order coming through? You make it sound as though it's still legal and can be bought online.

I think you may be on to something RE vasculitus. I have pain in my right leg blood vessels from time to time and it's really quite painful. I haven't had any Mephedrone in about 2 months though.
 
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