I havent posted on here in years but i feel it is my duty to do so after reading about your situation.I found myself in the exact same position 3 years ago.Exercise healthy eating being active and keeping your mind occupied will do the job my friend.It takes a few days but IT WILL GET BETTER.Some supplements that i found useful were vitamin d oral spray as soon as i woke up and omega 3 fish oils.Chamomile tea before bed helped to relax me so i could sleep.Nice long walks with my dogs in the fresh air and hard weight sessions in the gym had me back to myself in no time.Find what works for you............. sitting round feeling sorry for yourself makes things worse.Finally if you have any sense your days with class a drugs are over.
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thatonethough
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untested mdma worst come down ive ever had please help
Hello, this is my first post, i think 2 days ago i took some "mdma" supposed to be extra strong so i took a very small amount and gummed it, first time ever doing mdma or anything like it, i had a great high for about 15 -30mins and then i was neutral for another half hour, then the come down began, all i remember is something horrrible came over me and i thought i could sleep it off
, bad idea it was only like 7 o clock so i woke up a 2 am feeling wierd. i dont remember much of what happened that night i was in and out of slleep. the next day i was feeling better but my brain was not working properly, i was not eating healthy like i always do, i ate junk and didnt drink much water , when it beccame 8-9 o clock i was useless i had to go to sleep, i did not get good sleep and woke up into this horrible state were i feel like to moove its 100 times harder than normal, finally i get out of bed and out of tht feeling but now whenever i stand my heart hearts it feels heavy, my lungs also hurt.
i am also in a jittery state. I think im going to try to go to the store and buy healthy food, BUt this feels like a very long term thing so if anyone could help me out it would be appreciated i dont know if i sho uld smoke weed but i havent yet, the person that gave me this mdma said it was tested but i marked untested because they have lied before. sorry for the long post this is my first post, if anyone know what to do i know nothing about these types of drugs, thank you
Hello, this is my first post, i think 2 days ago i took some "mdma" supposed to be extra strong so i took a very small amount and gummed it, first time ever doing mdma or anything like it, i had a great high for about 15 -30mins and then i was neutral for another half hour, then the come down began, all i remember is something horrrible came over me and i thought i could sleep it off
, bad idea it was only like 7 o clock so i woke up a 2 am feeling wierd. i dont remember much of what happened that night i was in and out of slleep. the next day i was feeling better but my brain was not working properly, i was not eating healthy like i always do, i ate junk and didnt drink much water , when it beccame 8-9 o clock i was useless i had to go to sleep, i did not get good sleep and woke up into this horrible state were i feel like to moove its 100 times harder than normal, finally i get out of bed and out of tht feeling but now whenever i stand my heart hearts it feels heavy, my lungs also hurt.
i am also in a jittery state. I think im going to try to go to the store and buy healthy food, BUt this feels like a very long term thing so if anyone could help me out it would be appreciated i dont know if i sho uld smoke weed but i havent yet, the person that gave me this mdma said it was tested but i marked untested because they have lied before. sorry for the long post this is my first post, if anyone know what to do i know nothing about these types of drugs, thank you
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honestly, i can almost assure you that this is 100% in your head. i've had the same experiences before. i remember the first few times i was very nervous and thought so-and-so was happening to my body or that i was gonna die or that i had some weird thing going on in my body. but i soon realized that i was just being a hypochondriac. it's not that the mdma is making you anxious. it's that you've been told your entire life that "drugs" do all sorts of weird mythical things to your body, when in fact they mostly don't.
i can tell this is the case when you say things like "70% better" or "poor sleep last night" or "slightly out of it" or "depleted my happy chemicals"
an mdma comedown from ONE single first time dose would really have no negative comedown unless you took an irresponsible amount, so i think you were imagining feeling out of it.
you probably were just anxious and that's why you couldn't sleep
it is true that irresponsible mdma use can deplete your serotonin but not on your first time, not if you took a reasonable dose. your "happy chemicals" are just fine and they will continue to be fine. don't over think it brother!
honestly, i can almost assure you that this is 100% in your head. i've had the same experiences before. i remember the first few times i was very nervous and thought so-and-so was happening to my body or that i was gonna die or that i had some weird thing going on in my body. but i soon realized that i was just being a hypochondriac. it's not that the mdma is making you anxious. it's that you've been told your entire life that "drugs" do all sorts of weird mythical things to your body, when in fact they mostly don't.
i can tell this is the case when you say things like "70% better" or "poor sleep last night" or "slightly out of it" or "depleted my happy chemicals"
an mdma comedown from ONE single first time dose would really have no negative comedown unless you took an irresponsible amount, so i think you were imagining feeling out of it.
you probably were just anxious and that's why you couldn't sleep
it is true that irresponsible mdma use can deplete your serotonin but not on your first time, not if you took a reasonable dose. your "happy chemicals" are just fine and they will continue to be fine. don't over think it brother!
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id personally go to a hospital and get checked out. next time buy a test kit. no telling what poisons you may have ingested if you didn't test it
2 week possible comedown
Hi a friend of mine had taken 3 pills and a gram of mdma all of which other people had also taken the same stuff and felt fine, SWIM had a great time up and felt good for a couple days after even on the 3rd however SWIM started to get strong mood swings randomly it started out as intense depression it would always go away but the thought of the next time it would hit is terrifying. It has now subsided to severe anxiousness and SWIM starts to have negative thoughts (not suicidal thoughts) feeling like something is going to happen to me. SWIM is tired of feeling this way and was wondering if anyone else on here has felt similar feelings and if so how did they deal with it. I appreciate all input
Hi a friend of mine had taken 3 pills and a gram of mdma all of which other people had also taken the same stuff and felt fine, SWIM had a great time up and felt good for a couple days after even on the 3rd however SWIM started to get strong mood swings randomly it started out as intense depression it would always go away but the thought of the next time it would hit is terrifying. It has now subsided to severe anxiousness and SWIM starts to have negative thoughts (not suicidal thoughts) feeling like something is going to happen to me. SWIM is tired of feeling this way and was wondering if anyone else on here has felt similar feelings and if so how did they deal with it. I appreciate all input
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90bpm isn't high, you shouldn't worry so much. MDMA can cause very severe anxiety (it did that to me!) and there's not much you can do besides eating healthy and abstaining from drugs. I can't vouch for 5-HTP but if it has side effects that scare you, stop using it! Your brain does a perfectly good job repairing itself even under serious stress!
ImDirtyDan
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Genetic Tolerence "Deficiency"?
This is sort of relevant to this topic, posted this in the basic drug talk forum before and didn't get any responses.
Just wondering if anyone has the same "issue", although I really wouldn't call it an issue. More like a condition I guess. I've been smoking weed since I was like 15. I'm 21 now. And I'm always hearing how people need like an eighth to get high or smoke 4 gs to the face. I've never had that. I'll smoke a single bowl to my face a be at a pretty good high. Its the same for booze. 5 beers and I'm buzzing. Won't ever go over 10 beers or like 5 shots. Even with like empathogens or pharms. So is there a genetic issue or something else that causes a tolerence not to grow?
And to really show this, if you know anything about DXM then you know your tolerence builds up extremely fast. Had a little fling with Dex and after maybe 4 months of constant (2-4 times a week [I know now have fucking ridiculous that was]) I could still take a 350mg dose and be as fucked up as I was when I started. 8 hours of intense tripping.
Anyone know anything about it?
This is sort of relevant to this topic, posted this in the basic drug talk forum before and didn't get any responses.
Just wondering if anyone has the same "issue", although I really wouldn't call it an issue. More like a condition I guess. I've been smoking weed since I was like 15. I'm 21 now. And I'm always hearing how people need like an eighth to get high or smoke 4 gs to the face. I've never had that. I'll smoke a single bowl to my face a be at a pretty good high. Its the same for booze. 5 beers and I'm buzzing. Won't ever go over 10 beers or like 5 shots. Even with like empathogens or pharms. So is there a genetic issue or something else that causes a tolerence not to grow?
And to really show this, if you know anything about DXM then you know your tolerence builds up extremely fast. Had a little fling with Dex and after maybe 4 months of constant (2-4 times a week [I know now have fucking ridiculous that was]) I could still take a 350mg dose and be as fucked up as I was when I started. 8 hours of intense tripping.
Anyone know anything about it?
iwannafeelthatway
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Will I get serotonin syndrome?
I'm on 60 mg of Latuda and am going to do a tiny bit of MDMA. I'm so scared that something bad is going to happen.
I'm on 60 mg of Latuda and am going to do a tiny bit of MDMA. I'm so scared that something bad is going to happen.
Chernovy
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Is latuda an SSRI or MAOI? Only MAOI anti depressants can cause serotonin syndrome. You should stop taking SSRIs too cause they will block you from rolling.
Bentnotbroken
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Ecstasy/Molly ear ringing and anxiety?
Within a 5 month period I did Molly/Ecstacy 5 times. Nothing crazy between 150-175mg dose each time. First 4 times were a great experience. I had no serious sides or comedown. The last time was 21 months ago and it's been pretty much hell for me since that last night. I woke up the night after and my ears were ringing, really freaked me out. Went to the dr had all the tests. Bloodwork came back clean etc etc. ENT said everything was all fine. In the first 6 months I was having intense panic attacks and just really depressed, insomnia. Just a really bad 6 months of my life. Made a point to edit, that all my friends had taken the same dose and everything that I had all 5 times and they are 100% fine with no issues and think it's all in my head. I would love to believe that it's all in my head but the ringing and anxiety/sweating is very real to me.
Fast forward to today and I'm definitely 1000X better than where I was 21 months ago but I still have intense ear ringing and serious bouts of anxiety. Even though I don't feel anxious, I can feel the constant tension in my jaw and intense sweating but only in my armpits for some reason. So my question is this to my fellow members. Has anyone had tinnitus develop from taking X or Molly? If so, did it eventually go away? I mean I've basically learned to live with it at this point and I feel I'm 100% fine. Just the ear ringing and the jaw tension/sweating are such a nuisance I would love to be rid of them one day. I still have hope that maybe it will disappear.
The other thing I was thinking is that maybe the drugs awoken some sort of underlying anxiety problem that I had and possibly made it worse? I feel like all my problems stem from anxiety. Any tips on how to maybe beat that anxiety?
The last thing I was thinking is that when I did roll all 5 times I was grinding my teeth and clenching my jaw like crazy every time. Since then I believe that maybe I've started doing it in my sleep really bad and that could possibly be a cause of the jaw and ear ringing issues? I'm thinking of going to the dentist to get a professional mouth guard made. Has anyone had this issue before? If so, have you tried a night guard and did it help?
Thank you so much in advance. These forums have helped me recover to the point I am now. It would have been a miserable 21 months without reading advice and stories from everyone here.
Within a 5 month period I did Molly/Ecstacy 5 times. Nothing crazy between 150-175mg dose each time. First 4 times were a great experience. I had no serious sides or comedown. The last time was 21 months ago and it's been pretty much hell for me since that last night. I woke up the night after and my ears were ringing, really freaked me out. Went to the dr had all the tests. Bloodwork came back clean etc etc. ENT said everything was all fine. In the first 6 months I was having intense panic attacks and just really depressed, insomnia. Just a really bad 6 months of my life. Made a point to edit, that all my friends had taken the same dose and everything that I had all 5 times and they are 100% fine with no issues and think it's all in my head. I would love to believe that it's all in my head but the ringing and anxiety/sweating is very real to me.
Fast forward to today and I'm definitely 1000X better than where I was 21 months ago but I still have intense ear ringing and serious bouts of anxiety. Even though I don't feel anxious, I can feel the constant tension in my jaw and intense sweating but only in my armpits for some reason. So my question is this to my fellow members. Has anyone had tinnitus develop from taking X or Molly? If so, did it eventually go away? I mean I've basically learned to live with it at this point and I feel I'm 100% fine. Just the ear ringing and the jaw tension/sweating are such a nuisance I would love to be rid of them one day. I still have hope that maybe it will disappear.
The other thing I was thinking is that maybe the drugs awoken some sort of underlying anxiety problem that I had and possibly made it worse? I feel like all my problems stem from anxiety. Any tips on how to maybe beat that anxiety?
The last thing I was thinking is that when I did roll all 5 times I was grinding my teeth and clenching my jaw like crazy every time. Since then I believe that maybe I've started doing it in my sleep really bad and that could possibly be a cause of the jaw and ear ringing issues? I'm thinking of going to the dentist to get a professional mouth guard made. Has anyone had this issue before? If so, have you tried a night guard and did it help?
Thank you so much in advance. These forums have helped me recover to the point I am now. It would have been a miserable 21 months without reading advice and stories from everyone here.
ImDirtyDan
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Glad to know your doing much better. My first question is: how were you taking the molly (how you ingested it), and was it pills or crystals/powder. And did you test the mdma? There's a lot of other shit people can put in molly and a lot of other shot they can give you and call it molly.
To sort of answer your question. I have had tinnitus before from an MDMA night. But I usually stop noticing it 3-4 days after. Sometimes a few days after I catch myself grinding my teeth slightly. And I say catching myself because I don't notice it at first, so its funny that you ask about doing it in your sleep because i unconsciously do it that leads me to believe that it could go that far. I'm not really sure though. Also you were rolling once a month (maybe even more frequently a few times) and usually you should wait (from what I've gathered from expierience and what I've researched and been told) at least 2 months. At the very least. I've heard breaks from 3 months all the way to a year for the very least, but I personally think 3 months at least is perfect.
I've only recently been trying to be active on the forums because as well they have helped me through some stuff throughout the years and I like to give my 2 cents. But I'm glad to here the site helped you. Shout out to blue light xD
Seriously, good luck and stay safe. Learn from your reckless experiences
To sort of answer your question. I have had tinnitus before from an MDMA night. But I usually stop noticing it 3-4 days after. Sometimes a few days after I catch myself grinding my teeth slightly. And I say catching myself because I don't notice it at first, so its funny that you ask about doing it in your sleep because i unconsciously do it that leads me to believe that it could go that far. I'm not really sure though. Also you were rolling once a month (maybe even more frequently a few times) and usually you should wait (from what I've gathered from expierience and what I've researched and been told) at least 2 months. At the very least. I've heard breaks from 3 months all the way to a year for the very least, but I personally think 3 months at least is perfect.
I've only recently been trying to be active on the forums because as well they have helped me through some stuff throughout the years and I like to give my 2 cents. But I'm glad to here the site helped you. Shout out to blue light xD
Seriously, good luck and stay safe. Learn from your reckless experiences
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This was the first time I've tried any drug other than smoking weed a few times in high school (never liked it). I'm 31 now, so I hadn't done or tried any drugs in over 10 years prior to this little adventure so to speak. All of my close friends had been doing it for years with what seemed to be no real ill effects so I decided to try it. I was ingesting the molly in a crystal/powdery like form by mouth. One night I had taken 2 pills. Stupidly no I did not test them as I have no prior experience in this sort of thing and should have done my research.
That being said I took them with 5 close friends that are pretty heavy into this sort of thing for years and I trusted their judgement. All 5 of those friends are completely fine and have none of the problems I have. I've talked to them all individually and they swear it's just in my head or I'm crazy lol but the ringing in the ears, the jaw pain, and the underarm sweating are all very real and problems I never had before that last night almost 2 years ago now. Like I said its to the point where I realize that it's probably never going away and I have learned to live with it. I'm just hoping maybe someone has had a similar experience and can give me some advice. I'm still hopeful that my brain is just healing itself and eventually I'll be 100% back to normal but it hasn't happened yet.
Thank you so much for your reply, it really helps to talk to people who have had similar problems because the people in my life just don't understand or think it's just all in my head. Maybe it is, but if it is then how do I get it out of my head. Been trying for 2 years. I'm hoping maybe it's all related to grinding my teeth/clenching my jaw and maybe a dentist can shine some light on that. Like you I catch myself clenching my teeth when I'm awake when I never did prior to these experiences and when I wake up my jaw is the sorest. So j do believe I'm grinding/clenching in my sleep. Obviously no way to tell myself. Thanks again.
That being said I took them with 5 close friends that are pretty heavy into this sort of thing for years and I trusted their judgement. All 5 of those friends are completely fine and have none of the problems I have. I've talked to them all individually and they swear it's just in my head or I'm crazy lol but the ringing in the ears, the jaw pain, and the underarm sweating are all very real and problems I never had before that last night almost 2 years ago now. Like I said its to the point where I realize that it's probably never going away and I have learned to live with it. I'm just hoping maybe someone has had a similar experience and can give me some advice. I'm still hopeful that my brain is just healing itself and eventually I'll be 100% back to normal but it hasn't happened yet.
Thank you so much for your reply, it really helps to talk to people who have had similar problems because the people in my life just don't understand or think it's just all in my head. Maybe it is, but if it is then how do I get it out of my head. Been trying for 2 years. I'm hoping maybe it's all related to grinding my teeth/clenching my jaw and maybe a dentist can shine some light on that. Like you I catch myself clenching my teeth when I'm awake when I never did prior to these experiences and when I wake up my jaw is the sorest. So j do believe I'm grinding/clenching in my sleep. Obviously no way to tell myself. Thanks again.
ImDirtyDan
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Also drugs affect different people differently, and I've said that in other threads. I've heard stories of the body taking a hell of a long time to recover, but it does. I know you say you trust your friends' judgements, but do you trust a drug dealers judgment? Not only is testing your chemicals an easy way to debunk if its fake, it also keeps that user safe.
Your mental attitude is going to have a hand in your recovery. Get a lot of excersise, if you haven't been eating a good diet or a lacking diet eat better. Research foods and supplements that work to replenish seratonin. Multivitamin s are also your friend. When was the last time you saw your local doc? If its been awhile going back to check up and sort of evaluate the situation so far would be a good idea. I'm glad your hopeful for a 100% recovery, that's a good attitude.
No problem mate.
Like I said, learn from reckless days.
Your mental attitude is going to have a hand in your recovery. Get a lot of excersise, if you haven't been eating a good diet or a lacking diet eat better. Research foods and supplements that work to replenish seratonin. Multivitamin s are also your friend. When was the last time you saw your local doc? If its been awhile going back to check up and sort of evaluate the situation so far would be a good idea. I'm glad your hopeful for a 100% recovery, that's a good attitude.
No problem mate.
Like I said, learn from reckless days.
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Yeah I definitely wish I would have tested them. Like you said live and learn. I'm done with drugs so it won't be an issue going further. My dr wanted to put me on SSRIs and gave me some Xanax for the anxiety but I never wanted to fight a problem by throwing more chemicals at it. So I've stuck it out just eating clean and exercising. Only thing I've done since then has been the occasional alcohol all nighter. I've heard caffeine can play a role in anxiety and the teeth grinding/jaw clenching so I'm working on slowly cutting that out of my life.
Last time I saw a dr was about a month ago. He basically said learn to live with it since all my tests came back looking good and I don't want to get on anti depressants. The researching vitamins and things to replenish my serotonin sounds like a great idea. I've read that high anxiety can stem from low serotonin so maybe that will work out. Definitely something I'm going to check out, never thought of that. Thanks again! Much appreciated brother.
Last time I saw a dr was about a month ago. He basically said learn to live with it since all my tests came back looking good and I don't want to get on anti depressants. The researching vitamins and things to replenish my serotonin sounds like a great idea. I've read that high anxiety can stem from low serotonin so maybe that will work out. Definitely something I'm going to check out, never thought of that. Thanks again! Much appreciated brother.
ImDirtyDan
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I don't drink coffee or sodas with caffeine so I can't really speculate on it. I don't like caffine. Personal preference.
It probably would've helped when you rolled to take a multivitamin before, during, and after, as well as drinking orange juice throughout. This is what I do. I'm pretty sure its why I haven't had a seriously terrible comedown or long lingering side effects.
I forgot to ask if you had a family history of any mental disorders or standout genetic disorders or anything like that. That would be another thing to look at. I read somewhere that someone with either a previous mental problem or a significant family history of them, they are more susceptible to negative effects and experiences using not only MDMA but other psychedelics and other drugs.
Just trying to find all the possibilities here.
It probably would've helped when you rolled to take a multivitamin before, during, and after, as well as drinking orange juice throughout. This is what I do. I'm pretty sure its why I haven't had a seriously terrible comedown or long lingering side effects.
I forgot to ask if you had a family history of any mental disorders or standout genetic disorders or anything like that. That would be another thing to look at. I read somewhere that someone with either a previous mental problem or a significant family history of them, they are more susceptible to negative effects and experiences using not only MDMA but other psychedelics and other drugs.
Just trying to find all the possibilities here.
Bentnotbroken
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Nope no family issues or history with any mental disorders. I did actually do mushrooms a handful of times in my twenties and had no adverse effects at all. Forgot about that in my previous post. I think you are really onto something with the low serotonin and possibly the stimulants messed me up pretty hard not taking the right amount of breaks in between rolls and testing the pills. Really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me about it. Never really talked with anyone who understands what it's like or could be like feeling the way that I do. Thanks again.