Gaz_hmmmm said:DXM, Ketamine and PCP are all kappa opioid antagonists.![]()
May I ask where you read this? Can you post any information about this, I have never read anything that suggests DXM or Ketamine are Kappa antagonists (not sure about PCP).
Gaz_hmmmm said:DXM, Ketamine and PCP are all kappa opioid antagonists.![]()
AlphaOdure said:I heard somewhere, and now i can't find the god damn link, that the kappa opioid system was shown to be active during near death experiences.
Anyone have any links for this or info? I'll post if i find anything, interesting hm?
Piper methysticum said:I separate hallucinogens in these basic catagories and sub-catagories. To me, psychedelics are drugs that induce kaleidoscopic visuals, though the term actually means "mind manifesting." This could put many things into this catagory, but in order for me to organize things into my own mind and describe them to others, I use the term psychedelic as I have described.
True psychedelics:
-Phenethylamines:
Mescaline
2C-i
2C-E
2C-B
etc...
-Ergot type alkaloids
LSD-25
ALD-52
LSA compounds
etc...
-Tryptamines (some have little psychedelic effect)
Psilocybin/Psilocin
DMT
5-MeO-DMT
etc...
Psychedelic Amphetamines:
MDMA
MDA
MDE
etc...
Dissociatives:
DXM
Ketamine
PCP
etc...
There are more catagories that I could venture but my point is that Salvia does not seem to fit into any of those catagories, nor is it a compound similar to any other known hallucinogen.
Piper methysticum said:I do not believe that Salvia is a true psychedelic. This is because I believe that the true psychedelics are the drugs that provide kaleidoscopic visuals.
Piper methysticum said:I separate hallucinogens in these basic catagories and sub-catagories. To me, psychedelics are drugs that induce kaleidoscopic visuals, though the term actually means "mind manifesting." This could put many things into this catagory, but in order for me to organize things into my own mind and describe them to others, I use the term psychedelic as I have described.
True psychedelics:
-Phenethylamines:
Mescaline
2C-i
2C-E
2C-B
etc...
-Ergot type alkaloids
LSD-25
ALD-52
LSA compounds
etc...
-Tryptamines (some have little psychedelic effect)
Psilocybin/Psilocin
DMT
5-MeO-DMT
etc...
Psychedelic Amphetamines:
MDMA
MDA
MDE
etc...
Dissociatives:
DXM
Ketamine
PCP
etc...
There are more catagories that I could venture but my point is that Salvia does not seem to fit into any of those catagories, nor is it a compound similar to any other known hallucinogen.
Piper methysticum said:I do not believe that Salvia is a true psychedelic. This is because I believe that the true psychedelics are the drugs that provide kaleidoscopic visuals.
Hell yea! I think that is the best thing anyone can do on salvia. Oh the memory that triggered, wow.I loved to just lie out on the grass at night in summer and look up at the sky.
Blowmonkey said:okay, according to your findings maybe not, but i'm saying salvinorin a is a psychedelic, or actually, to be more specific, it causes psychotomimetic effects. salvinorin a is a potent kappa opioid receptor agonist, thus, acting on the kappa opiod receptor causing "strange" psychoactive effects, considerd as psychedelic. it does not act on the 5-ht-2a receptors as most psychedelics you described above but a whole different receptor, this does not mean it isn't psychedelic. [/B]