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I'll just say again, I fully support the mods actions. If anything, looking at the present situation, the place is under moderated IMO. Back a few years when things did run smoother, complaints were generally directed straight to mods through PM, and most dirty laundry wasn't aired on the board. If the situation wasn't resolved, the option to move on was always there - as it still is. I hate to have to say it, but if I was in a mod today, some of you would have been banned long ago - and that's coming from someone who never directly banned anyone when he was mod.

Why? Well, some of you might argue it's because I've got less patience nowadays, or that I don't do enough drugs- yes, believe it or not that's been suggested :\ I like to think it's simply because most people around a few years ago were here for the right reasons, and most had something which is sorely missing today - that wee thing which means so much - respect.

fwiw, I've been seriously thinking of moving on for some time, not because of the mods, but because some hard heads simply don't get it and probably never will. There are one or two other HR places that are far more attractive atm, and I simply haven't the time or energy to cover them all. Had it not being for the hard work of the early mod teams, coupled with the almost desperate effort by some of the present mods to right this sinking ship, I'd have gone long ago. So more than anything, I'm still here to offer them support and encouragement, which is well deserved and not given often enough. FFS, the ridiculous suggestions that our new mods are here for some ulterior motive is laughable at best, and only demonstrates the desperate measures some people will lower themselves to when they can't get their own way.

I've had posts deleted and at the time I was pissed but then I realised what AusDD is really all about and that's fair enough and stopped posting in that manner here. I let out all that other stuff I want to post/talk about in the other forums here on Bluelight.

Thank you puckboy. It's certainly a pity some of those currently complaining can't take a leaf out of your book. Others have demonstrated the same - maturity and sensibility winning out over some desire to kick and scream when they can't get their own way; doesn't matter that their ideals might go against the fundamental reasons for BL being here in the first place. To those who do accept that compromise is conducive to any happy community, it's commendable, and I take my hat off to you
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. But, it would seem, appreciation is a word some people just don't understand. The mods aren't here to change your shitty nappies, so to those who think they should be, I say grow up and learn some respect.

Everyone should accept that no single forum can be everything to everybody - and that's why most places like this have many. If harm reduction isn't the principle reason for you posting in Aus DD, and you're not willing to compromise some of your ideals for that cause, then perhaps the cold hard reality is that this isn't the place for you. If you're not happy with an HR forum, and not willing to spend time on other places on or off this board so as to satisfy desires not catered for here, you should think long and hard about what you're actually here for.


So, let's see more of the worthy kinds of suggestions as displayed by those genuinely interested in improving the integrity of Aus BL, and constructive criticism by those who genuinely feel a need to change something.


Aus BL 2010 - the choice is yours
 
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I couldn't agree more.

I'm not a regular contributor to this board, but I do read it regularly and I'm a regular BL user who has been around since 2003. In that time I think the biggest change that I've seen is that there is more bullshit and less decent HR related information that gets posted. The problem is not that there isn't enough "fun," the problem is that the credibility of the board goes downhill because it gets turned into a forum for people to tell tedious stories about how high they are or whatever.

The reason the rules exist is because this board has a particular function, and a particular public presence, that it needs to maintain. And all the bullshit detracts from that. The mods do a good job in trying to keep this under control and I don't think bitching about not being able to "have fun" is a constructive contribution to AuDD.
 
and most had something which is sorely missing today - that wee thing which means so much - respect.

A few of your own posts have lacked this lately as well.
Just because people don't know as much as you doesn't mean they are idiots.

And I hope you take that as constructive criticism as I have always been a fan of your posts since I have joined.
 
And I hope you take that as constructive criticism

I do, thanks, and I'll try hard to mind my Ps and Qs in future. I must admit though, it's difficult to not become frustrated when you've already outlined/referenced something more than once and it's still ignored, particularly when it's often only a few posts back in a thread....
 
^couldn't agree more, P_D. especially when the search function isn't being utilised nor threads being read from the beginning to end.
 
, and most had something which is sorely missing today - that wee thing which means so much - respect.

I honestly think the biggest lack of respect on here is not towards just the people and members but to substances themselves ...substances should be a tool for positive personal change and enhancement IMO ... once they become anything else then people have a problem (I know this first hand)

I think that is what a good portion of the members here miss the point on is that substances used in a negative way bring out negative emotions and posts and that is exactly what why so many posts are deleted IMO ... (I myself are guilty of this sometimes)

Some peoples (who post here) basic and obvious lack of respect for themselves, substances and the people around them are exactly why they see this place as going downhill, because of there own negative mindset ...

Sorry to harp on... it's just frustrating to see some of the comments here is all :\
 
I do, thanks, and I'll try hard to mind my Ps and Qs in future. I must admit though, it's difficult to not become frustrated when you've already outlined/referenced something more than once and it's still ignored, particularly when it's often only a few posts back in a thread....

That I can understand as you have been here many years and seen the same thing over and over again, I'm already starting to see it a fair bit.

I must admit, if it wasn't for having any thing else better to do with my time I'd rarely use Bluelight anymore.

As with the lack of respect. Personally, yes I abuse drugs and really don't have much respect for my body and mind. However the two things I do really care/have a passion about in this world are the people around me and drugs.
 
Just thought I would chuck my 2 bob in.

Of late - as you would expect - there have been quite a few posts and threads about the current state of ecstasy in Australia. These threads do have merit, but it is a little dissheartening to see the same posts and same threads popping up again. The HR message has already been well establised - at least I feel.

No matter how many time it gets linked or said by a respected member or how many times the mods take action the useless banter and speculation continues to clog the forum.

AusDD has become quite repetitive and un-interesting lately because of this, among other factors, many of which have already been discussed in this thread.

Kudos to all those out there posting worthwile content <3

PLUR (PS. where is it?)
 
^couldn't agree more, P_D. especially when the search function isn't being utilised nor threads being read from the beginning to end.

Lol I was unaware a search function even existed :P
However I'm one of the good newbies on this site who does read a thread from start to finish ;)
 
Re: original message

I am a new member here, but have been reading the forum for around a year.

It was post which was quoted as an example of a member seeking HR information, and instead receiving 'useless' drug banter. I want to offer my perception of how the discussion evolved as case study in the moderation of this forum:

When I started the thread I was feeling down about my coke use. I asked if anyone had any advice. The responses that came were varied: from people in a similiar position, people talking about their addiction to other drugs, and some people talking about how much they enjoyed their coke binges.

I feel like all of those responses have value. This is not a 'fact sheet' forum, I asked questions here because I enjoy reading the OPINIONS and experiences of many different people, even if those opinions are 'fuck HR', you are guaranteed to have several considered and harm reduction based responses too.

I want the moderators to trust in my intelligence, trust in my maturity as an adult, to pick the responses to my question which are useful to me.

And sometimes, on a drug discussion board among your peers who also like getting high, reading about racking up a huge pile of charlie brings a smile to your face, and reminds you 'you are not the only one'.

Let the individuals decide what opinions they want to read and take on board, moderation should be left for material which will cause the site to be banned.

*ps:
Thats my opinion on the policies which govern moderation. My opinion of the actual moderators are that they are hard working, reasonable and nice people. We don't need to change the moderators, just the policy.<3
 
And as a result, participation has gone well down and people have stopped posting. It's on you guys, there's nothing more to be said from our end.

Apologies for not getting back to this sooner but I wanted to track down some information to see if what your saying is in fact correct. Unfortunately, it appears you're a little off with your assumption that people have stopped posting. The stats below show posts per month in AusDD over the past two years.

Code:
2008	January		1117
2008	February	1100
2008	March		889
2008	April		1195
2008	May		1169
2008	June		978
2008	July		1049
2008	August		1749
2008	September	1336
2008	October		1272
2008	November	991
2008	December	1893
2009	January		1948
2009	February	2685
2009	March		2786
2009	April		2697
2009	May		3696
2009	June		2728
2009	July		3411
2009	August		2835
2009	September	2488
2009	October		3083
2009	November	2704
2009	December	2494

Now, posts don't prove anything because we all know it should be quality over quantity and that's where we're probably falling short at the moment. Our patronage has certainly gone up but how do we encourage our newer users to post quality over quantity???


I want the moderators to trust in my intelligence, trust in my maturity as an adult, to pick the responses to my question which are useful to me.

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Let the individuals decide what opinions they want to read and take on board, moderation should be left for material which will cause the site to be banned.

Moderation on Bluelight isn't about doubting anyone's maturity or protecting them from themselves, rather, its about ensuring the information presented is accurate and that Bluelight isn't perceived as just another drug 'chat site'. It needs to be remembered that the information posted on here isn't only used by drug users but also by LE for intelligence building, the media for reporting purposes, academics for trend analysis as well as a plethora of other individuals.

Taking note of what's been said above - The material moderated is done so to solely protect the site, its users and to maintain the ideals of Bluelight - HR. Bluelight is already in a precarious position with the possible introduction of the Australian internet filter and we need to be aware, as moderators and members, that our words could directly result in the inclusion of Bluelight on the blacklist.
 
^ He can have my spot anytime he wants it :)


rad :) praise from ceaser belarki, if that's really your name


He's probably going to go crook at me for posting that lol But I really think he'd be good, I've spent alot of time with him and not only is he a nice fellow, he's actually interested in other peoples health and well being, and harm reduction.

AND he's a good dancer, plays video games... and ladies, great in bed!

/runs
 
^ Yeh Mr blonde used to be a Mod and a good one at that. Not sure if it was here, Other Drugs or both. If he wants to step up to the position again I have no doubt he will :)

As for AusDD I think the current mods are doing a great job! I honestly don't think we need any change of leadership in this forum at the moment :D
 
OK, besides chaning the name of this thread to belarki love, any thoughts of adding new things, or the thoughts on the chaning of guidelines that happened a couple of weeks ago.
 
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