AusDD Ideas, Opinions, Direction

[Sykik]

Hey Guys,

A recent thread has been hijacked by this topic so I'm moving the relative posts here.

There is already a great deal of ideas and discussion in this thread AusDD is Changing - Where can we improve So, please read this thread first before continuing discussion. If the discussion in this thread is taking the same tone, same ideas as that thread. I will merge it with that thread.

Please take a second to think about what you want to post before posting, as coherent reply's will be more helpful to the community.


Sykik
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The Following is off Topic Discussion Moved From another thread
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Phase_Dancer:

has blue light become a machine of malice

Not at all. From my POV, efforts made over the last few years to broaden readership and extend subject discussion have met with some failure, and it's now time to restructure. This is not to blame the mods; if you don't try things, you might never know whether something will be an improvement or not.

So, we now have a team of moderators attempting to redirect the general focus of the forum, and that is a good thing. Decisions are not always made lightly, and often serious discussion on such things occurs behind the scenes. In short, moderators generally put in a great deal more time than most would realise.

I think the new moderators have risen well to the task. When first taking on such a role it's not always easy to balance everything. Often you have to compromise some of your own ideals or preferences for the good of the board. FWIW, I agree with Sykik; pics of unidentifiable drugs, off topic or out of perspective posts should be edited and firmly discouraged.

I've been amazed to see how the question posed by the OP has been interpreted.

After so many shit pills moved to coke..now i cant stop!


As we all know pills aren't worth buying at the moment, but I figure the situation will improve even if it takes a few years.

In the meantime, to get a buzz over the festive season I've been trying coke a few times. Anyone else tried this?

Anyway, at first it was good, but now its like I can't stop thinking about doing a line before I go out, or when I'm at a club. It invades your thoughts in a way that E never did!

You also have that feeling that you can never get enough when you do have it, and you get really selfish about it with your friends. Not to mention how much it fucking costs!

Has anyone else been in this situation? How did you move on from coke and kick that feeling of wanting 'just a quick line to pep me up'????

To me, this is asking how to not think about coke all the time. Relaying love stories hardly addresses that. If on the other hand your stories explained how you went from craving to a take it or leave it attitude or abstinence without craving, then yes it would be reasonable to include just how morish you once found it.

 

[chemi]

To baby boy and quarter pounder, there are threads and sections of BL dedicated to personal experiences, this particular thread is regarding a fellow Bluelighter's addiction to cocaine.

Also, this is off-topic. If you wish to discuss what should and shouldn't be allowed on BL, please post in the AusDD is changing - Where can we improve? thread.

 

[hyroller]

I just have to chime in with the correct spelling of banter.

Sorry, folks... was doing my head in reading post after post spelt in an incorrect fashion.... (OCD for sure).


On topic - sounds like someone with an addictive personality should not be substituting drugs, period... but addressing the more obvious, underlying social/personal demons they may be experiencing.

Play safe, kids.

 

[pinothippy]

If on the other hand your stories explained how you went from craving to a take it or leave it attitude or abstinence without craving, then yes it would be reasonable to include just how morish you once found it.

I never thought i'd see the day when i'd disagree with you pd but seriously..... lots and lots of people love their coke... i've seen many people over the years in the grip of a cocaine love story... their views and stories deserve airtime here too... this is a site largely for the benefit of drug users so let free and open debates take place without the editting.

 

[baby boy]

I never thought i'd see the day when i'd disagree with you pd but seriously..... lots and lots of people love their coke... i've seen many people over the years in the grip of a cocaine love story... their views and stories deserve airtime here too... this is a site largely for the benefit of drug users so let free and open debates take place without the editting.

bluelight used to be about opinion but lately this has changed to being more about what part of our opinion the moderators feels is necessary...... why dont the moderators just right what they want to say instead...... they have deleted 3 of my posts in this thread already and altered 2 others also in this thread and they call this a forum hey

no wonder a lot less people have been posting lately..........very sad as i used to call this place home

 

[SeveredPsyche]

I never thought i'd see the day when i'd disagree with you pd but seriously..... lots and lots of people love their coke..

Did you actually read his post and understand it? Check Chemi's reply as well.

I can't understand why people go on about "freedom of speech" the second they're asked to abide by any set of rules, or don't understand those rules. * AusDD has never been a free-for-all as long I've been reading it. There were other forums for that, and some have disappeared for obvious reasons.

OP: good luck. The best advice I've heard is to try not to replace it another drug. Find something else to do for a while.

* I do have a fair idea of why things go pear shaped on a forum like BL. Discussing it would probably be a good example.

 

[phase_dancer]

I never thought i'd see the day when i'd disagree with you pd but seriously..... lots and lots of people love their coke... i've seen many people over the years in the grip of a cocaine love story... their views and stories deserve airtime here too... this is a site largely for the benefit of drug users so let free and open debates take place without the editting.

I think you're missing my point. I was speaking specifically in relation to this thread where the OP has obvious concerns about his obsessive thoughts re coke - hard to get out of one's head. Now, having been in that position myself once, and suffering the consequences of letting that get out of hand, I know only too well how stories of passion for the stuff only makes the craving worse. I have no objection to story telling - right place right time etc, only that such doesn't address the OPs question/s and possibly does more harm than good.

But feel free to disagree....

bluelight used to be about opinion but lately this has changed to being more about what part of our opinion the moderators feels is necessary......

Perhaps this has been the case since you joined baby boy, but in the past this forum has very much been about the mods opinions, and I might add, that when the groundwork for the guidelines was developed, it was a time when readership was far broader than it is today and contributions were more informative (not just the amounts taken and number of drugs one owns etc), and generally speaking posts were far better referenced.

why dont the moderators just right what they want to say instead...... they have deleted 3 of my posts in this thread already and altered 2 others also in this thread and they call this a forum hey

The forum is bound by guidelines, or so it should be. It is within the power of moderators to change most of those, or delete them or better enforce them. As for posting what mods want to say, I think most say what they think. Any forum that runs well is well moderated, and that means adhering to guidelines and editing out posts that either violate the rules or are counter productive.

no wonder a lot less people have been posting lately..........very sad as i used to call this place home

That is one ambiguous statement, and I agree with it totally, although for completely different reasons it seems. For myself and many other once regular, quality contributors of this forum, the dicksizing, "safe as fuck" go hard- take more, often judgmental mentality that has crept in over the past few years has lowered the tone of this place to a point where otherwise effective HR info is often lost amidst the dribble.

 

[Sykik]

Now this discussion started off topic (as it might have some flavor of the other thread's topic). However this is the place to discuss such issues as: Moderation, Direction etc, as well as any other other issues you may have. If you have an issue with a particular member of the MOD team, please PM them.

Now how can we make AusDD a better place? Or what would make AusDD a place you would enjoy more? Or a myriad of other questions I could ask...

So... what do you think?

 

[baby boy]

personally i don't think it is good for anyone to delete or edit a post as long as it is within the limits of the forum i didn't swear or be aggressive to anyone or solicit anyone for anything basically i just gave my opinion ...the very fact that this thread has been created out of hacking another thread is proof that there is too much control by moderators at bluelight.......why not let it run its course on its own i think the right sort of people were finding what was said and giving there opinion

free speech is just that free

not directed edited or anything else if i want to scream viva la coca in a cocaine thread that my way of saying i love cocaine and thats my opinion and as for adding pictures ........ a picture says a thousand words

 

[Sykik]

as long as it is within the limits of the forum

Also if it on topic? What if someone was talking about speed, and you jump in and say a huge post about why LSD is bad for children and why the government shoudn't be a two party system? I know this is a huge streach, but we need to draw the line somewhere.

I think the questions that needs to be discussed, what is the definition of off-topic, and how can it be defined, I know I have a hard time sometimes determining this.

I agree that a picture can say a thousands words, but in that particular case, it didn't. There is no rule against posting pictures, but again if it is off-topic, or has no real use in answering or discussing the thread title and opening post, why have it there?

 

[chemi]

.why not let it run its course on its own i think the right sort of people were finding what was said and giving there opinion

This forum would be an absolute catastrophe if it were unmodded. This place is already redhot, we can't draw more attention to ourselves and the simple fact of the matter is that some posters simply cannot help themselves (not saying you can't, but some).

The conversation we were having in the cocaine thread was completely off-topic, which is why it was moved here. I see nothing wrong with that...

 

[Sameria]

This forum would be an absolute catastrophe if it were unmodded. This place is already redhot, we can't draw more attention to ourselves and the simple fact of the matter is that some posters simply cannot help themselves (not saying you can't, but some).

The conversation we were having in the cocaine thread was completely off-topic, which is why it was moved here. I see nothing wrong with that...

With you there chemi.

There is a time and a place for off topic chatter and drug dick-sizing. Take it to IM or something, not on a Harm Reduction oriented website.

 

[baby boy]

i no way was i dick sizing and i dont believe i was far enough of topic to require an edit correct what was said about speed and then piping up about lsd sure that too fa of a change but sometime a conversation does that and if that the spirit of it ....let it be it a forum for people to comunicate not a reference file for cops or crims or users....ITS A FORUM

A PLACE TO TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE

 

[chemi]

i no way was i dick sizing and i dont believe i was far enough of topic to require an edit correct what was said about speed and then piping up about lsd sure that too fa of a change but sometime a conversation does that and if that the spirit of it ....let it be it a forum for people to comunicate not a reference file for cops or crims or users....ITS A FORUM

A PLACE TO TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE

Well, actually, BL is supposed to be a reference file for users. It's not designed to be a social forum. Anyway, all those posts are in this thread now so we can discuss it and be on topic

 

[Sykik]

Hey Guys, keep the convo clean. This thread is not to attack each other (nor is BL) so please stay on topic. Any more attacks or malice posts will be edited. Now discuss what you guys want for AusDD, gosh! (napoleon dynamite reference)

 

[baby boy]

Well, actually, BL is supposed to be a reference file for users. It's not designed to be a social forum. Anyway, all those posts are in this thread now so we can discuss it and be on topic

alot of people on here have made freinds and actually enjoy logging in and seeing whats going on that what makes people come back and give there opinions on diferent issues and try and help other that drop by... maybe the fact that people such as yourself refer to it a a reference file is the reason that not alot of people post much anymore....... is it just me or have the same subjects been on the board for ages no community no conversation


reference file sounds like a government reference in short

 

[chemi]

alot of people on here have made freinds and actually enjoy logging in and seeing whats going on that what makes people come back and give there opinions on diferent issues and try and help other that drop by...

Don't get me wrong, I have made friends on BL, some of whom I speak with every day. I love posting and reading about progress, media coverage and HR strategy in the drug community.

It's posts about how "fucked up" people are, posts about what kind of drugs someone has in their possession and in what quantity that are debilitating to BL. A social community in the sense that we discuss drugs, not social in the sense that we can speak freely.

reference file sounds like a government reference in short

Not too sure what you mean by this.

 

[baby boy]

you called bl a reference file and that it is not ....there are plenty of other forums to go to for acual info on drugs and use +dosage

 

[L3inad]

"Australian Drug Discussion" Not "Australian Drug Reference". I do feel that has been forgoten some what lately.

I agree about the dicksizing threads and the "zomg im so munted right now!" threads, they have no place here.

But there should be room for both factual harm reduction infomation as well as friendly banter.

AusDD is being slightly overmodded imho. A friendly reminded to keep things ontopic is often more than required, editing/deletion of posts should be reserved for extreme cases only, afterall everyone has an opinion.

 

[baysieguy1]

That is one ambiguous statement, and I agree with it totally, although for completely different reasons it seems. For myself and many other once regular, quality contributors of this forum, the dicksizing, "safe as fuck" go hard- take more, often judgmental mentality that has crept in over the past few years has lowered the tone of this place to a point where otherwise effective HR info is often lost amidst the dribble.

PD, I have a great respect for your posts and agree that "dicksizing", "safe as fuck" "go hard- take more" have no place in this forum. However as you can see from when I joined the forum I am relatively new. Over the time I have been a member I have learned so much from BL and its members that has been completely HR related. The things I have learnt have kept me safe and stopped me from making mistakes or experimenting with substances that I have no idea about.

BL has a very important place in HR and our society. I think it would serve all best to guide and educate, rather than berate and chastise.