AusDD Ideas, Opinions, Direction

[Crankinit]

I don't think it's a hidden agenda, I just think certain people need to get their heads out of their asses.

 

[maddyboy]

Thanks for raising these issues Jake.

How do you suggest we overcome these problems?

Re-think the new aus moderators for a start, obviously police or reporters or very close.

Just because someone starts the 750ith mephedrone thread, in a BAD way, prohibition way..... should they be a moderator?????

 

[maddyboy]

I don't think it's a hidden agenda, I just think certain people need to get their heads out of their asses.

I just get a "BUY ILLEGAL DRUGS" if you are into "HARM REDUCTION" feel from this site.

And the whole " DOB IN DORON" thing damaged AusDD quite alot (in my opinion).... there's even another post about it today

 

[8L4YN3]

AUDD has gone to shit, the draconic moderation has killed any fun or community, and people are posting less and less because there's no fun back and forth going on. It's all bland HR discussion. Sure HR is why this board is here, but at the end of the day there's only so many times you can tell someone not to drop pills back to back or to be careful combining downers or whatever before it gets old. We come for the HR, but we stay for the people, and without the community interaction that keeps any forum alive, the board will die.

Just compare the fun, laid backed atmosphere over in EUDD to AUDD, it's like night and day.

Anyway, that's my 2c.

Pretty much have to agree with crankinit 100% here.

And what is with people saying theres a whole bulletin board to explore? The thread is about AusDD Ideas, Opinions and Directions for 2010(not about the whole of bluelight), and we're straight up telling you that the board is completely shit and dosn't seem to be changing direction, and then you guys are getting all defensive and trying to deflect attention away from the fail of AusDD and saying we should be exploring what the rest of the site has to offer, sorry but thats not even what the thread is about.

Basically the mods are completely killing this place. And go ahead and censor me, ban me whatever i seriously dont give a shit anymore, and neither do alot of other people.

 

[Jakeperson]

Most of the old community stayed away from that issue. The doron one that is.

And you're quite welcome Lil_Angel, after all we are a community and we can work through these issues together but we need to work as a community.
No sides or arguing, just debating and working through. I remember when I first joined and started learning all this wonderful information how happy and PLURy every one here was. Lets all think really hard before we post.

The media and police are watching us and here and they want to make us look bad. We need to prove that we aren't just a bunch of drug fucked idiots trying to ruin the country. If we can sort out these issues peacefully and work together doing so, then we're doing better than the non-drug community.

 

[maddyboy]

Most of the old community stayed away from that issue. The doron one that is.
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Am I wrong though? I've bought it up before and was accused of being a dealer and protecting my source ?????? Which is bullshit

Now I see today on ninemsn "exclusive" ivory wave....... where did that "exclusive" come from??????? Right here

 

[maddyboy]

Spot on puckboy. Bluelight is a big and wonderful place and people would be surprised what else the site has to offer outside the regional discussions.

There's not a great deal to stop them from re-registering but it doesn't take them long to return to their old ways of disrupting the forum. The only real difference is that they aren't afforded the same luxury of numerous warnings before being banned again.
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So should we say/post whats on our mind??..... or say what "bluelight" says what should be on our mind? Many people are worried about being banned and having to start as "greenlighters" again

which is like showing up to stonings to be stoned by people with a few more posts. (Life of Brian comes to mind)


Ouch! was that a stone??????

 

[Jakeperson]

Am I wrong though? I've bought it up before and was accused of being a dealer and protecting my source ?????? Which is bullshit

Now I see today on ninemsn "exclusive" ivory wave....... where did that "exclusive" come from??????? Right here

Yes it did cause some trouble across the forums with some members.

However it is in the past now, just like Doron.

So lets move on and work on rebuilding this community.

 

[lil angel15]

Just compare the fun, laid backed atmosphere over in EUDD to AUDD, it's like night and day.

You're right - there is a huge difference between AusDD and E&ADD. This is easily explained in that their social and drug discussion is combined with a separate forum for their events. The Australian side of the board has a separate drug discussion committed to HR - not saying E&ADD isn't committed to HR - and our social and events forums are combined into one.

If the mods really wanted to change bluelight to a much more focused HR site then prune those comments out of threads. I'd also suggest reading through classic bluelight.

It's a double edged sword really. If we don't prune out certain comments then we're frustrating one side of the house while appeasing the other. If we do prune them out then we're accused of 'draconic' or 'over moderation'.

It's a careful balancing act in an attempt to find a happy medium.

perhaps the bigger problem is that bluelight is moving to a new generation of drug taking. There seems to be a colder harsher reality to drug use then what I have been used to.

This is something that has been raised in the staff development discussion and undoubtedly one of the issues we're facing. Once again, it's a careful balancing act trying to keep the 'old school' Bluelighters happy, while still trying to impart good HR practice on those not prepared to read long winded or scholarly posts.

the moderators (in my opinion) have a hidden agenda.

I'm not sure what you're implying by a 'hidden agenda' but I can assure you that the only agenda is to provided pertinent HR information to those who need it most.

And what is with people saying theres a whole bulletin board to explore? The thread is about AusDD Ideas, Opinions and Directions for 2010(not about the whole of bluelight), and we're straight up telling you that the board is completely shit and dosn't seem to be changing direction, and then you guys are getting all defensive and trying to deflect attention away from the fail of AusDD and saying we should be exploring what the rest of the site has to offer, sorry but thats not even what the thread is about.

AusDD is a regional microcosm of the Bluelight forum. When we are talking about development then it needs to be considered in the context of what the sites about, its goals and its additional included content.

There's no point re-inventing the wheel if there's already one in the next room!!!

Basically the mods are completely killing this place. And go ahead and censor me, ban me whatever i seriously dont give a shit anymore, and neither do alot of other people.

Statements convey a thought but offer no suggestion of improvement. If we, as mods, are killing this place then how do you suggest we fix it?

after all we are a community and we can work through these issues together but we need to work as a community.
No sides or arguing, just debating and working through. I remember when I first joined and started learning all this wonderful information how happy and PLURy every one here was. Lets all think really hard before we post.

You've hit the nail on the head there Jake. If there is to be change then we need to work together to make these changes. If these threads are just used to sling mud, while offering up no suggestions, than those slinging the mud are only doing themselves and their fellow members a disservice.

So should we say/post whats on our mind??..... or say what "bluelight" says what should be on our mind? Many people are worried about being banned and having to start as "greenlighters" again

Of course you should post what's on your mind. The only limitation is that it's within the guidelines - which shouldn't be too hard to do!!!

Just remember the guidelines and the Bluelight User Agreement are just as much about protecting you and the site but to also ensure an enjoyable experience can be had by all.

 

[Crankinit]

You're right - there is a huge difference between AusDD and E&ADD. This is easily explained in that their social and drug discussion is combined with a separate forum for their events. The Australian side of the board has a separate drug discussion committed to HR - not saying E&ADD isn't committed to HR - and our social and events forums are combined into one.

Except we're not allowed drug discussion there, and nobody goes there anyway, and it still fails in the goal of maintaining a community atmosphere in a board where we can also discuss HR.

 

[lil angel15]

Except we're not allowed drug discussion there, and nobody goes there anyway, and it still fails in the goal of maintaining a community atmosphere in a board where we can also discuss HR.

That's all well and good but how do we rectify the issue while still maintaining the integrity of AusDD as an invaluable regional HR resource?

 

[Crankinit]

It was an invaluable HR resource well before you guys started deleting anything that wasn't pure, 100% HR info. All you've done is limit activity by removing the reason people come to message boards in the first place, which is community interaction.

 

[lil angel15]

It was an invaluable HR resource well before you guys started deleting anything that wasn't pure, 100% HR info. All you've done is limit activity by removing the reason people come to message boards in the first place, which is community interaction.

That's what you perceive as the problem but what's your suggested solution?

 

[Crankinit]

That the mod team get their heads of their collective asses and go back to the way things were 12 months ago?

 

[8L4YN3]

AusDD is dead..

 

[lil angel15]

Guys - I've got to question if you really want to see a change here or if you're simply using this as an easy outlet for your frustration. One line responses denouncing the moderation of the forum isn't going to change anything unless you take the time to detail your grievances and bring them to the fore.

One of the main concerns raised is the volunteer moderation of the forum. If we're able to dedicate time to Moderate this place then I'm sure you're able to come up with something better than 'AusDD is dead' and 'That the mod team get their heads of their collective asses'.

If you're not able to do that then I guess it's not as important as you're making it out to be.

 

[Crankinit]

What the hell more do you want us to say? The problem isn't us, it's the mod team. people have been saying over and over for months, be a bit more light handed and allow people to have some fun, but you guys just ignore us. And as a result, participation has gone well down and people have stopped posting. It's on you guys, there's nothing more to be said from our end.

 

[8L4YN3]

From what i can tell lil_angel you're not even taking us seriously and seem to see no problem with the over-moderation of the forum, i guess it's fun for you guys or something.

But you seem to think we're just here to vent aimless frustation and not better AusDD.

So this will be my last post, and i'd like to say a genuine R.I.P to what was once a great place for discussion.

As i have voiced from the start of this thread, removing you from your position of power would do this forum a whole world of good. And i stand by that, but it is obvious things are never going to recover judging by your stubborn additude.

So this is a very sad day for what once was great, and is now unbearable.

PS: And as for you guys being volunteers, good on you, do you want a medal or something? There is obviously no shortage of people happy to throw their power around. Incase you cant read english we want less of your presense, not more, we would be happy to see you retire completely and usher in a new generation of non-anal moderators. So if you seem to think we owe you something and dont like doing what you do for free, piss off, and it will make the whole place 10x better.

 

[puckboy]

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Really, mate? We've both been Bluelighters since Mar '06 but I haven't noticed this great change in AusDD... it's always been like this (HR-based), besides the social thread that was open for a bit. It has been overall moderated in the same way for the last ~4 years... when was it different? I'm actually asking, as I can't say I've been a regular for that time and would like to know. I've had posts deleted and at the time I was pissed but then I realised what AusDD is really all about and that's fair enough and stopped posting in that manner here. I let out all that other stuff I want to post/talk about in the other forums here on Bluelight.

AusDD serves it's purpose, if you want more - check out the other forums, there lots of cool people that frequent them. Don't confine yourselves to AusDD, fuck that.

 

[MrIbis]

Whats with the whole doron issue? how many of you have personally spoken to the guy and know how fucked he is? the shit he pulled people into..

its not about dobbing anyone in man - it's just about people knowing whats what. So long as people like p_d continue to post, there will be decent presence in AusDD, but after that fact - it will be shit. there won't be any useful information