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Opioids 7oh and suboxone

I mean if you don't mind being broke, constantly redosing like a crack head go for it. Word to the wise though suboxone DOES NOT do anything for 7oh wd and I mean NOTHING.
 
Kurt Cobain said:
I mean if you don't mind being broke, constantly redosing like a crack head go for it. Word to the wise though suboxone DOES NOT do anything for 7oh wd and I mean NOTHING.
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Oh trust me I know how the compulsive redosing is 7oh. It’s horrible. I was addicted to it for like 7 months. I got up to spending over 1300$ a month on it ! It was horrible. I started off using it on occasions and before I knew it I was having it take a ridiculous amount ever couple hours to just stay out of withdraw. And subs did help me greatly with the withdraw. I know everyone is different though.
 
helpingout said:
You too. I like your cat.

I don’t have any scientific evidence. Nothing peer reviewed.

But I do have my experience.

I noticed that even raw leaf kratom broke through suboxone. At the very least could be taken alongside kratom.

But you can actually feel 7oh strong while
On suboxone. Which means that it’s displacing the blockade effect on the receptor.

So whether buprenorphine
Or naloxone is responsible for the blockade effect, being able to feel 7oh is indicative that 7oh has a higher affinity for the receptor site than either bupe or naloxone. Definitely not the greatest scientific process in the world.

“If I take suboxone regularly, and use/feel 7oh, then 7oh must be breaking through the blockade, therefore 7oh must have a higher affinity for the site than either buprenorphine or naloxone.”
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I know it's old but ya, it's true. That explains why subs do absolutely nothing the first 4-5 days of high dose 7oh withdraw.
 
gymguy30 said:
Oh trust me I know how the compulsive redosing is 7oh. It’s horrible. I was addicted to it for like 7 months. I got up to spending over 1300$ a month on it ! It was horrible. I started off using it on occasions and before I knew it I was having it take a ridiculous amount ever couple hours to just stay out of withdraw. And subs did help me greatly with the withdraw. I know everyone is different though.
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That's great to hear subs worked for you, didn't do shit for me at all until day 4-5-6 when the 7oh was winding down off my receptors. 7oh had a higher binding affinity than subs which is crazy. I was on very high doses of 7oh tho and not even 16mg of bupe did fuck all for the wd
 
Kurt Cobain said:
That's great to hear subs worked for you, didn't do shit for me at all until day 4-5-6 when the 7oh was winding down off my receptors. 7oh had a higher binding affinity than subs which is crazy. I was on very high doses of 7oh tho and not even 16mg of bupe did fuck all for the wd
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I was in between 500-1000mg of 7 for months ! Looking back it makes me sick how much money I spent in it
 
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