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Would you choose to be a God of dumb animals?

As I don't know what it means to be God, even in this Yahweh example/story/incarnation, let alone the possibility of "Godhead/Brahman/Ultimate Ground of Being/Tao..."...I would say that I have no choice but to say I am and would be what Life makes me to/wants me to be.

@Gnostic Bishop I also don't know how you are defining "dumb animal" and does that include "human being/human animal". I can not be what I am not so this is pure mental masturbation. I am what/who I am.

Only answer that seems "right" to this kind of question is: "I want to be what Life wants me to be.".

I am obviously bounded by my senses, size, depth, power, and all other conditioning (biological and psychological) that come with human condition...and feel like a small "part" of the ineffable Whole. So I would leave "The Whole" to determine or lead to what is best for "me" as a part of it. My wish is what is most harmonious for life and I would want to be a harmonious part in that harmony. What ever that might be.

It is Life's (or Gods/Brahmans/Taos...) turn to "calculate" and "wish" what it wants from me to be.

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Gormur said:
No, I just don't understand what you're saying. In a basic sense, people are people and they don't change. Maybe you're talking about political change or societal change somewhere but that wasn't clear to me

Are you saying that societies tend to become godless? I guess that could be true but it would ignore parts of society that go against such a trend
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I wouldn't even open to this sub unless I am high so I am not surprised posts can be difficult to follow.

This question posed by OP is confusing because the God in the old testament is the God of people from thousands of years ago. They generally stayed in the region, no one had sailed around the world, science didn't exist, the laws of physics didn't exist. Homosexuals - I can't find anything about it being a sin except for a reference to some soldier who laid with men (and something about young boys) women don't get a say in anything and just give birth to sons.



God didn't make humans. Humans made God. Gods and how society runs were hand in hand, far more than now.

That God just reflected what life was like at the time. We have evolved and dont have the same amount of importance in God so hypothetically speaking, If I were a God, I'd have to think about that in terms of modern society, would humans around now buy the idea of God now if God was not in existence until now? If I were God, would anyone actually form their society around me? Hello no!

Lol, I am going to say yeah, its easier to be a God of uneducated dumbasses so I'll say yep I'm down with being God Dumbass.
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
I wouldn't even open to this sub unless I am high so I am not surprised posts can be difficult to follow.

This question posed by OP is confusing because the God in the old testament is the God of people from thousands of years ago. They generally stayed in the region, no one had sailed around the world, science didn't exist, the laws of physics didn't exist. Homosexuals - I can't find anything about it being a sin except for a reference to some soldier who laid with men (and something about young boys) women don't get a say in anything and just give birth to sons.



God didn't make humans. Humans made God. Gods and how society runs were hand in hand, far more than now.

That God just reflected what life was like at the time. We have evolved and dont have the same amount of importance in God so hypothetically speaking, If I were a God, I'd have to think about that in terms of modern society, would humans around now buy the idea of God now if God was not in existence until now? If I were God, would anyone actually form their society around me? Hello no!

Lol, I am going to say yeah, its easier to be a God of uneducated dumbasses so I'll say yep I'm down with being God Dumbass.
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Also, this thread is based on the Judeochristian idea of God... as a separate entity.

The eastern notion of God is that it is everywhere and we are part of it.

I think the Bible's description of God contains a lot of eastern allegory, which means the idea of God is universal -- but political motivations have watered down the Bible so much over the centuries that it's impossible to really know the true intent anymore.

Almost everything Jesus says about himself and God are really allegorical to how the east describes Divinity.
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
This question posed by OP is confusing because the God in the old testament is the God of people from thousands of years ago.
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God's word is unchanging, according to scripture. There's nothing about God changing as a being, so I can't answer to that part
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
Homosexuals - I can't find anything about it being a sin
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Judaism
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is detestable."[3].וְאִישׁ אֲשֶׁר יִשְׁכַּב אֶת-זָכָר מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה — תּוֹעֵבָה עָשׂוּ שְׁנֵיהֶם. מוֹת יוּמָתוּ; דְּמֵיהֶם בָּם
"And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed a detestable act: They shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."[4]
Deuteronomy 23:17 tells followers: "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a kedeshah, nor shall any of the sons of Israel be a Kadesh." This has been interpreted as prohibiting the "sons of Israel" from serving as a homosexual temple prostitute.[5]

The story of Ruth and Naomi in the Book of Ruth is also occasionally interpreted as the story of a lesbian couple,[6] while the relationship between David and Jonathan in the Book of Samuel is sometimes interpreted as male homosexual love (see David and Jonathan).
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✿Dai₷y✿ said:
God didn't make humans. Humans made God. Gods and how society runs were hand in hand, far more than now.

That God just reflected what life was like at the time. We have evolved and dont have the same amount of importance in God so hypothetically speaking, If I were a God, I'd have to think about that in terms of modern society, would humans around now buy the idea of God now if God was not in existence until now? If I were God, would anyone actually form their society around me? Hello no!

Lol, I am going to say yeah, its easier to be a God of uneducated dumbasses so I'll say yep I'm down with being God Dumbass.
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So, this is what you think but it doesn't have anything to do with what's in the Bible. I'm just going by scripture so that's why I misunderstood you
 
I would certainly not be a God of humans because they want to be God themselves, but I would certainly agree to be a God of actual animals.
 
1) for the luls. It makes a good story/experience. Knowing everything that has been, and will be must be boring.

2) we arent the final form (thank god) and whatever is coming next will be better
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
Ok, will get a notification but how long would one be waiting, not sure where I'll be and would like his response to this pov...

@Gnostic Bishop,

Let me answer your question with a question:

What if God created being far more intelligent than God, would God have the kind of leverage over his creations society in that situation ?
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We are created in god's image.

I created my offspring with the hope that they will match and exceed whatever I am.

As a creator, did you create your children to have leverage over them, or to show the excellence of your creating ability?

If a supernatural god created us for his own aggrandisement, then he is an immoral dick wad.

If created for his pleasure, the way scriptures say god created good and evil to serve, then I would give god a pass.

Regards
DL
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
Humans are incredibly stupid but we are evolving to the point where God isn't the fallback reasoning, more just a convenient thing to waste time arguing about with.
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Trying to further good moral thinking is never a waste of time.

Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

Please get back to me with your conclusion.

Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Regards
DL
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
^ Are you saying humans have not evolved or changed at all in comparison to the people at the time of the old testament?
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Which of our moral tenets have we changed or reversed over time?

I do not know of any, even as we have evolved physically.

Our instinct, and the morals they produce, are the same today as in the distant past.

Regards
DL
 
Psycho_Logic said:
As I don't know what it means to be God, even in this Yahweh example/story/incarnation, let alone the possibility of "Godhead/Brahman/Ultimate Ground of Being/Tao..."...I would say that I have no choice but to say I am and would be what Life makes me to/wants me to be.

@Gnostic Bishop I also don't know how you are defining "dumb animal" and does that include "human being/human animal". I can not be what I am not so this is pure mental masturbation. I am what/who I am.

Only answer that seems "right" to this kind of question is: "I want to be what Life wants me to be.".

I am obviously bounded by my senses, size, depth, power, and all other conditioning (biological and psychological) that come with human condition...and feel like a small "part" of the ineffable Whole. So I would leave "The Whole" to determine or lead to what is best for "me" as a part of it. My wish is what is most harmonious for life and I would want to be a harmonious part in that harmony. What ever that might be.

It is Life's (or Gods/Brahmans/Taos...) turn to "calculate" and "wish" what it wants from me to be.

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I described Yahweh as seeing us as dumb animals as compared to him.

Life gave me life. It is not sentient, and so my mind tells me what I want to be, not life.

Life does not desire anything. You and I can.

Regards
DL
 
God wants us to be smart.

God wants us to cull the weak and dumb.

God is frustrated we have elevated morons to be our leaders and created systems to keep people stupid.
 
relex_author said:
I would certainly not be a God of humans because they want to be God themselves, but I would certainly agree to be a God of actual animals.
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When they sin, will they know they do?

How will you punish them and how will they know it is an invisible you?

How will you reward them? Like Job was perhaps?

Regards
DL
 
Foreigner said:
It's all God at the end of the day. I'm not sure what your obsession with Yaweh is. If you don't like him then stop giving him the energy of your thoughts and time.
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Stop supporting Christianity and a genocidal god.

If you aren't against him, you are for him.

Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

Please get back to me with your conclusion.

Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Regards
DL
 
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