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Whats the hardest drug you can think of?

psynce of sound said:
Classic barbiturates. Disinhibiting, euphoric and compulsive plus memory loss. With that low therapeutic window, that is a recipe for disaster.
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It was the simplest way to die when you could get your doctor to write a script for 100 nembutal ... Not that Dying is ever simple
 
The hardest psychedelic and imho a totally useless compound is 2c-p. 5mg and one is fuxked for hours.
 
For me it’s meth. I’m 4 days into a binge. Not much food. Barely any sleep. The crash kills me every time.
 
Even harder is beta phenyl amph. 10mg and you’re on it for 40hours. With meth I would classify hard and soft consume behavior.
 
Sweet Jane78 said:
For me it’s meth. I’m 4 days into a binge. Not much food. Barely any sleep. The crash kills me every time.
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That sounds bloody awful. Can't imagine how people get through it quite frankly. I mean I know people take benzos and Ap's to help with the crash but I still don't know how people deal with the deep depression and absolute exhaustion. Time after time I mean. I think once would have had me cured. I'm a pretty strong person but I think meth crashes and burns would have left me suicidal. And I fear that it very well may affect others like that. I have a drug history but I do thank my lucky stars that meth never got a hold of me because I know I wouldn't be here right now if it had.

Stay strong Sweet Jane. Go with the flow. Pop a benzo and recover quickly. Do you have any idea why you keep doing this to yourself? Is the high really that fantastic? I mean I know you probably enjoy it or you wouldn't do it but how do you deal with the comedowns?
 
Pickledlemons said:
dexedrine. those beads are a fucker to bust up.
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Especially barr pharma 10s. After working the pill crusher 2 or 3 minutes with little progress like a drill bit hitting diamond it's really annoying and makes me ask what the hell do they put in there!?
 
Nurse Ratched said:
That sounds bloody awful. Can't imagine how people get through it quite frankly. I mean I know people take benzos and Ap's to help with the crash but I still don't know how people deal with the deep depression and absolute exhaustion. Time after time I mean. I think once would have had me cured. I'm a pretty strong person but I think meth crashes and burns would have left me suicidal. And I fear that it very well may affect others like that. I have a drug history but I do thank my lucky stars that meth never got a hold of me because I know I wouldn't be here right now if it had.

Stay strong Sweet Jane. Go with the flow. Pop a benzo and recover quickly. Do you have any idea why you keep doing this to yourself? Is the high really that fantastic? I mean I know you probably enjoy it or you wouldn't do it but how do you deal with the comedowns?
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Thanks. Yeah, good for you for staying away from it. My boyfriend introduced it to me about 10 years ago to heighten our sexual experiences. I loved it for more than that. I keep doing it because it makes me feel alive and motivated. I deal with depression, so you can see where the attraction is. It also takes away my anxiety. Throughout the years I’ve had periods of time that I did it everyday. Somehow I got away from that. In the past few years it went back to maybe once a month my bf and I would get some to party. I’m pretty ok if it’s just one night of debauchery. When I have access to more than for that night is when I just keep doing it every day until it’s gone. That’s when I’m in trouble with the treacherous crash. I’ll often stay in bed for 3 days and sometimes miss work. I’m totally dehydrated and lacking nutrients and still don’t really feel like eating. Remember how I said above that I deal with depression and anxiety? That’s what really fucks me up bad. So I grin and bear it and get back to feeling ok and sometimes I’ll stay off it for a couple weeks and then cravings happen and I just go back for more, telling myself that I’ll keep it more under control with dosing, eating and sleeping so once I’m out again the comedown won’t be as bad. It doesn’t ever end up that way. It’s a predictable cycle. The other thing is that my bf is barely affected by it and can take it or leave it. He likes to party sometimes, but doesn’t suffer any consequences. He hates when I do it on our non party nights because he knows what it’ll lead to for me. So he gets mad at me and I feel judged and ashamed. Like he’s cool, but I’m the loser junkie. If I were able to keep my use solely for party nights, I’d be ok. 🤦‍♀️
 
It’s a non constrained version of desoxypipradrol to put it simple. Never seen it on the market but precursors are easy to get.
 
izo said:
The hardest psychedelic and imho a totally useless compound is 2c-p. 5mg and one is fuxked for hours.
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5mg is not even that much ime.
DOB is pretty "hard" for a psychedelic. Long duration, crazy peak, you're just getting steamrolled for hours, very strong stimulation.
High DOB and DOI doses are absolutely insane according to the few overdose reports.
izo said:
alcohol for shure. datura seems just plain poison. i found subutex to be a very hard opioid and then theres a-php, strongest cathinone there is. when it comes to psychedelics i found psilocin pretty hefty without canabis and mescaline i imagine to be also rather unforgiving. btw is the temple of the true inner light still around?
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I think the one A-PHP batch I had was very weak.
The temple should indeed still be around yes, there was some brief talk about it in PD some months ago. Apparently they'll be screaming verses in your face while you're tripping absolute balls on DPT lol. If you ever go, please report back.
 
All php I got was strong as fuck and hard to handle without some benzos. I only had doi in normal doses (2 mg) and liked it.

Regarding my quoted passage, mescaline is one of the most forgiving psychedelic peas I can think of, 200mg where so mellow and nice. I was totally wrong.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
5mg is not even that much ime.
DOB is pretty "hard" for a psychedelic. Long duration, crazy peak, you're just getting steamrolled for hours, very strong stimulation.
High DOB and DOI doses are absolutely insane according to the few overdose reports.

I think the one A-PHP batch I had was very weak.
The temple should indeed still be around yes, there was some brief talk about it in PD some months ago. Apparently they'll be screaming verses in your face while you're tripping absolute balls on DPT lol. If you ever go, please report back.
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Summer of 1967 a batch of STP (DOM) was poured into the hippie scene in the Haight-Ashbury in SF. The dose was very high for that particular drug I don't recall exactly but I'm going to guess 20mg
 
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