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OPP said:
Sounds like an emulsion to me too. I have read that if you shake the bottle to vigorously after putting in the shellite then an emulsion will form. From memory if you heat the liquid up some of the emulsion will seperate back into shellite and bark liquid. From then you can do the pull with that shellite.
Instead of shaking the bottle just try turning it end over end or a soft shake.
Hope that helps.
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Subdepth said:
Sounds like youve gotten am emulsion. This happens a lot with Acacia species because they have an abundance of fats and oils.
Generally a 'defat' will Prevent emulsions from forming. Performing a Xylene wash after your boils (and before the basification and polar washes) will resolve this.
Also heating your Naptha (no open flame) will also help resolve emulsions. It will give you a better yield as the alkaloids seem to drop out more readily if the solution is heated.

Hope this helps bro.
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cant thank you guys enough for the replies, much appreciated :)

from the research I've done, it seems the oil/fat content might be too high to go straight to base.. but havin that said, I know a bloke that does go straight to base (using A. Acuminata bark) with very good results but unfortunatly I'm unable to ask him what tek he uses
 
smooch0 said:
thanks so much for your reply OPP.

is there any way i can extract the fats and oils out of the changa? Doing so i gather i would not have this weird head pressure feeling when smoking it.
thanks so much for your reply, this has been puzzling me for some time now.
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Changa is when you dissolve DMT into some kind of smoking herb.
I assume you want to remove the fats from your DMT??
From memory you should take around 30ml of shellite to 1gram of DMT. The DMT will dissolve into the shellite and any fats and oils will be a yellow liquid seperate to the shellite. You can remove the fats with a syringe and evaporate the DMT to be purer!!
 
Nozphexezora said:
Unfortunately I won't ever have the opportunity to experience DMT, unless in my future University years I stumble across it. But either way, I stand by my statement that a drug, whatever it may be, should dictate my spirituality.
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Agreed my friend, on both points, i too have never tried DMT as it's
difficult to get a hold of, me thinks. There are of course several native
acacia(wattle) tree's that contain this chemical in vast numbers.

My curiosity with DMT has always been since i read ' DMT : The spirit molecule '
by a guy called Rick Strassman or something. I Read the book at 16, and haven't
had a chance to try DMT at all since, i've heard horror stories as well as glowing
trip reports with this chemical, i definitely think only experienced psychonauts
need to ingest it, as some people might have a heart-attack at devilish faces.
 
Apologies if this has been covered on BL, I can't find it through the seach engine.

I am wondering if anyone with decent experience can help me with a safety issue. I am planning on taking a mild dose of pharmahuasca in the next day or two. I am also planning on having a decent dose of molly 72 -84 hours later.

From what I can work out most "internet elves" claim that harmala alkaloids cease there MAOI-A action within 12 - 24 hours. I am concerend that it might be possible for this process to take longer, and possibly potentiate the MDMA to a dangerous level more than 72 hours later. I don't want serotonin syndrome obviously...

Can anyone let me know if they think 72+ hours should be more than enough time for the MAOI-A action to disappear?
 
westy said:
the experience completely enveloped my mind, i was intimidated at first and a little bit afraid so i reassured myself to go with it like you would if you were having a difficult time on lsd and after that i felt like i got some support from an older woman? not to sure on that but i felt some support from something, and the only visuals i can remember were sort of like the new cactus artwork in perth (http://somewhereelse.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Perth-Cactus-Sculpture-1-500x374.jpg)

cant wait to try it again
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haha i have also had a expirence with a older female guide i couldnt see her but i knew she was there holding my hand as we flew over 1000's of universers then i was all of a sudden in the big area with heaps and heaps of spirts all talking to me at once this while i was on 2.5 cherubs aswell :p............Did you hear a really loud wine as you were breaking through? I rember on my very first break through i started thinking just random words like chair lounge feet tv computer ect n it got faster n faster n louder n louder until it merged together into 1 veryyyyyy loud veryyyy intense wine...
 
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i'm looking at various vaporisation options for spice, and i'm wondering if anyone has ever adapted a hash oil pipe (standard glass pipe used commonly in aust. for meth) to be more appropriate for dmt?
i've smoked dmt a bunch of different ways, and i have a nice new glass pipe but from what i remember, they're not ideal for dmt.

i'm thinking of something like 'the machine' with steel wool or something wedged into the bowl of the hash/"crack" pipe. is this a stupid idea or has anyone experimented with something similar?
i know there may well be something in a previous page of this thread - and while i have read the whole thread at least once, the 20+ pages would be bit time consuming for me at the moment.
if any of you clued-up heads has a good suggestion, i'd be keen to hear it.
 
I still have not found a better technique then 'sweet puff style / variety glass meth pipe. This is not with changa spice. I would recommend a hash pipe with a big cone and a screen, form the changa I have had.

I find with the glass shard pipes it's hard not to break through with half a point or less even of DMT crystal when smoked hard just like your running out of TINA
 
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^nope, i mean the glass dicks people generally smoke meth out of in australia.
with L-shaped stem and sphere on the end with a hole in the top.
it's been years since i've used one for dmt, and it seems easier to do the herb sandwich technique in a standard pipe or a bucket bong.
i've found buckets really good actually, because you can pull the whole thing without worrying about coughing out the smoke or something and blowing the hit - you just heat/melt it and take your sweet time to suck it down.
have heard really good things about "the machine" and was wondering if people have adapted a 'crackie' to work the same way.
 
havent smoked DMT for months, tempted to acquire some more and blast off. such a beautiful majestic magnificent profound intense experience, will never forget the times ive smoked it... well, from what i can remember of those times. astonishing
 
spacejunk said:
i'm looking at various vaporisation options for spice, and i'm wondering if anyone has ever adapted a hash oil pipe (standard glass pipe used commonly in aust. for meth) to be more appropriate for dmt?
i've smoked dmt a bunch of different ways, and i have a nice new glass pipe but from what i remember, they're not ideal for dmt.

i'm thinking of something like 'the machine' with steel wool or something wedged into the bowl of the hash/"crack" pipe. is this a stupid idea or has anyone experimented with something similar?
i know there may well be something in a previous page of this thread - and while i have read the whole thread at least once, the 20+ pages would be bit time consuming for me at the moment.
if any of you clued-up heads has a good suggestion, i'd be keen to hear it.
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few months ago i purchased a vaporizer and its the method of transport to hyperspace imo. This is with enhanced mullein but do not vape with passionflower and or damiana as it tastes like fucking shit unlike the mullein as it has no real taste and since its sooooo smooth on the lungs you can ingest alot more than trying to punch a fat donker of a cone.
here's a link to my spaceship http://dabuddhavaporizer.com/index.php
 
^ i've thought about using my vaporizer - i have a vapir no2 - but i'm a bit reluctant to get the smell of dmt on my beautifully hash-oil smelling vape. i love the way it smells/tastes now, and i don't want to ruin it with that "old man stink" of vaped dmt. a strange way to describe the smell...but it doesn't smell as good as fresh dmt.
maybe i'm being precious, but i guess i find the taste/smell to be part of the wonderful sensory experience of vaping cannabis.
worth thinking about though! if only i had the cash to have a vape for both substances...
 
Does ur dmt have a lingering smell? When I vape it, it would smell like burnt plastic with a flowerish hint only for a few mins. The smell disappeared on its own for me afterwards. I thought my bags would stink and ruined em too but it didnt.
 
the dmt i have had previously had a very distinct smell after it had been vaped.
dmt of the present and future, i can not yet say. worth investigating, though.
 
lol @ old man stick, yeh it does reek. but for me lingering taste or smell doesn't matter as its only deemsters that is put in there
 
ok, got a couple of quick questions regarding the de-fat proccess that I so desperately need to know because the internet/people I chat with about it cant really give me a straight answer...

well the main one is, can I use shellite as a solvent to de-fat the solution?

2nd; A de-fat in laments terms is pretty much; add xxxml of solvent to acidified solution, give it a good shake, physically separate the two layers?

thanks in advance :)

EDIT: suss, clear your inbox :p

also, if I cant use shellite, can someone please PM me where I might be able to acquire the correct solvent?

many thanks in advance :)
 
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa_chemistry1.shtml

Here's a really awesome tek. It uses naphtha which is a blend but its unavailable here in Australia so people substitute is for shellite which is easy to find at that big green and red hardware store. You can also exchange it to Petroleum ether (from chem shop, might need EUD but can always make one up:) also have to be very diligent as its highly flammable (found out the hard way) LOL Good idea to invest in a separatory funnel as well, there pretty cheap n easy to come by.
 
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