Morrison's Lament
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Isn't he a fullback for Everton?
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it is active nasally, but there is not enough in a few seeds to be really feltits really not the DMT thats nasaly active because it isnt
tickle said:ive been working with a shaman in bolivia with the vilca snuff for a number of years now. and i have done alot of research includeing a good conversation with Ott on the subject and manuel Torres.
its really not the DMT thats nasaly active because it isnt. 5meodmt is but nndmt isnt.when you smoke the seeds you dont get much from them, its the same as snuffing them with out any limes staone paste you get a head rush and it hurts and thats about it. besides a mild stoneing effect. when mixed with the lime stone paste they sell at asian markets for betel chews and cooking. its mind blowing when you snuff it. the closest thing that it could be compaired to is free baseing nndmt. its unreal how powerfull it is. and its really the bufotine that is effecting you not the dmt or the 5meodmt its the bufotine. so says Ott.
a typical method which has been passed around the internet which i came up with is mixing a pea sized amount of lime stone paste to 4 toasted seeds which have been ground to a very fine powder. and snuff. it helps to shuck the seeds of thier shells before you pullverize them. yopo as most call it or vilca as we call it in bolivia is alot like a short 2 hour ayahuasca session just very fast with all the wonderfull side effects and visions rushed into a 2 to 1 1/2 hours. you can get alot of work done in a short time.
unless your prety dedicated to a shamanic practice i wouldnt recomend yopo actualy. it will kick your ass and i mean hard. ive seen people completely loose thier minds on this stuff on a regular basis fighting for control and trying to deal with the pain of insulflation.
the lime stone is essential it makes the alkaliods absorbable in the mucous membrane. some people do have some ucces doing this sublingualy with some bakeing soda or lime stone. but i dont think its worth it.
once you have seen what you can see with snuffing it with lime stone its hard to evn hold the experince up t anything else. its hard core, very primal. but visulay some of the most amazing tings ive ever seen. spirits come and work with you you can see them as soon as it kicks in. pretty wonderfull medicine.