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The Big & Dandy Oral DMT thread (Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca)

Hello. Just thought I'd give the thumbs up to Moclobemide. I had decided to give up vaping my DMT on account of the fact that it plays havoc with my chest and I'm a smoker anyway.
I swallowed 2x150mg Moclobemide and waited an hour. The Mocl. was much friendlier on the body than my previous Rue and Caapi extractions, and it didn't seem to have any strong psychological effect on its own. Both Rue and Caapi gave me a distinct mental restlessnes before I took my admixtures in the past.
After an hour, I swallowed 65mgs of DMT in a gellcap with orange juice and waited. I went for a lowish dose there on account of it being my first time with Mocl. It took an hour to feel annything really, and I was getting hungry. One packet of Marmite flavoured crisps and a cup of tea later, and things were beginning to happen.
I experienced little to nil open eye visuals, but laying in my bed, with the side lamp illuminating my closed eyes and a delicate cavalcade began before me. A pipe carrying compartment/capsule like structures in the throughflow of strange fluid was the first thing that appeared to me. As I studied each capsule on its way past, I tuned into different voices/narratives emitting from them. The first seemed to be telling me that they were Dutch and had 'many interests', while the next spoke in a buzzing clicking tongue which made no sense at all. I have no idea where these funny little details come from, and they are one of the aspects I enjoy, for the their sheer bizarreness.
Next I was thinking slightly rude thoughts as I writhed around on the bed while the warm reds and oranges of the closed eye visuals heaved and folded around my mindspace in a decidedly erotic way.
All these visuals and imaginatory phenomenon seemed gentler in their onset compared to the vapourised experience. There is more time to savour them and the mindset is far more relaxed into the experience as well. I was reminded greatly of the onset of 4-AcO-DMT in this sense. I also felt with 4-AcO-DMT that it was so benign a compound that I was comfortable to go quite high (for me) with the doses. Likewise Moclobemide and DMT felt very easy physically and sublime frome a mental point of view. I look forward to trying it with 120mgs next time and beyond after that. I feel comfy about trying it with DPT sometime once I have got a bit more acclimatized.
That will not be for at least a month, because I am on holiday in Peru all month November. I might give it a go with some authentic jungle ayahuasca while I'm there, which is sure to be a little bit more of a tummy rumbler than Moclobemide.
Your mileage may vary - peace, Pipp.
 
If you have to ask, you are not ready. Judging by your user name, DMT will eat you alive.

Very cute but you misunderstand as they are my initials rather than any comment on my intake ;)

Thanks for merging this thread, lots of helpful stuff in here for a novice like me.
 
i just had the most incredible experience last night - 66mg oral dmt freebase (mid quality mimosa extract) with 300mg moclobemide and 5mg selegiline. it was almost as perfect as it could get. the full crustacean experience, eye stalks and viscera and city detritus intermingling in crumpling accordion step pyramid formations, very wonderful hallucinations and duration.

i could see retiring with nothing but Pharmahuasca, 4-AcO-DMT, LSD and 2C-B - but of course i love novelty far to much for that!
 
Ayahuasca (Soon to experience DMT for the first time)

Im not sure if this violates the guidlines but I dont think it does. Ill give it a shot...this wensday I will be taking THH and that some mimosa hostillis root bark. I got 40 g's from *snip*. I have read that the quality of the bark can vary greatly so I am wondering if anybody has used *snip* bark before and can give me a good starting dosage area for it. I dont want to go into a high does trip but I do want more than threshold. If anybody who has used *snip* MHRB in the past whats a good aproxamation ? Thanks, Ill be posting my experience.
 
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How long is a oral dmt trip (with moclobemide for example)? with oral administration, is more gentle like 4-aco-dmt or 2c-b? (reports of smoke dmt scares me a bit, seems too fucking intense XD)
 
Usually 1-2.5 hours of intensity for me and then a niiice looong afterglow that feels as if all of the energy of the universe is channeling through me.

Oral DMT can be very fucking intense as well, but you have more time to orient yourself in the space than with smoked DMT....instead of a near instant reality crumble.
 
If i ever did aya, are there any decent resources on foods to avoid leading up to the experience?
 
DMT and Caapi vine??

I am thinking about trying DMT soon. i have some old Caapi vine kicking around my friends and i used to smoke it and get really happy. if i smoke the Caapi vine with DMT on top of it will it boost and lengthen the high?
 
if i smoke the Caapi vine with DMT on top of it will it boost and lengthen the high?

yep, and you get a nice long afterglow too. (normally, depending on the batch)


Julian.
 
I have actually heard about smoking some sort of ethnobotanical MAOI along with DMT....

i think it was called something like Changa....
 
Ch-ching, chang's got the mix down capialoids n acacialoids, makes every other psychoactive look like baby pabulum. Folias, whats this 'Changa/ stuff, eh, methinks its time for the Chunga-Changa repost///
 
LOADS of info on ingredients and making the stuff, now where are the trip reports!

would love to know how these different ways of preparing and making ayahuasca, etc affects the trip.

only tripped once on ayahuasca from a pack we brought back from dam and i haven't heard much on how trips are with it. i know they are suppose to be spiritual etc, leme know :)

buzz xxx
 
So I'm thinking of trying some pharmahuasca with moclobemide. For those that have tried both, is their a general consensus on whether extracted DMT crystal is better than mimosa hostilis?

Just looking for opinions. I understand my mileage may vary.

I'm assuming moclobemide with extracted DMT would be better than syrian rue with mimosa hostilis or moclobemide with mimosa hostilis.
 
I prefer extracted DMT because it is easier to ingest than a tea of mimosa hostilis and you can be certain exactly how much DMT you are taking. I also prefer moclobemide because it is a reversible MAOI and does not cause the same complications with tyramine-containing foods that syrian rue does.
 
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