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The Big & Dandy Oral DMT thread (Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca)

From what I've read, when taking syrian rue, it is recommended you fast from tyramine for at least a day, whereas moclobemide is more benign in that regard. The way I worded the previous post I made it sound like syrian rue was not reversible and I apologize for that. (You should stll avoid too many tyramine-rich foods when taking moclobemide)
 
Does anyone enjoy low dose oral DMT? I feel like it would have potential in the lower ranges as a analytical yet soothing trip. Low doses of smoked DMT (++) just feel amazing, better than any low dose mushroom feeling.
 
totally had to look the whole tyramine thing up, but cheers for the heads up. having an ayahuasca party on boxing day :D

a few that havent tried it yet and were hoping for a white christmas trip in the woods :)

apart for the tyramine thing is there anything else like that, that needs planning to obtain the best trip possible?

buzz xxx
 
Ayahuasca preparation...?

Hi, this is very odd situation....

My mate from Brazil came over a few months ago and brought me a coffee jar, labelled Ayahuasca, there was no mention on the label of any ingredients, or preparation instructions...just the name of the shop where it was bought/prepared...

The jar contains about 80grams of ground up barky/rooty matter....

My friend from Brazil has taken part in ayahuasca rituals in the churches in the communities, but he has never prepared a brew himself....

From reading around I understand the mix will contain a DMT containing element, and a MAOI element to potentiate the DMT?

I am assuming both elements are present in the concoction.

What I need to know....
....I understand both DMT and MAOI elements could be derived from different sources, SO, what would be a good starting dose, so as not to overdo the effects, I would rather be underwhelmed than overwhelmed for a frirst experience.....?

Thanks for any advice.

Monk...x
 
Im not entirely sure, probably because nor have I ever seen or done ayahuasca, but it looks to me like you may have Mimosa Hostilis rootbark, try searching around and researching that..

Im sorry I cant be of more help.
 
There are too many variables to advise on how much of the an extraction liquid you have to take. If you can find out from your friend what the materials were, that would be a start. However, the alkaloid content of the plants used in Ayahuasca varies also. I was recently in Peru and had two seperate Ayahuasca sessions. Oddly enough, the strongest experience was had the lowest volume of liquid to consume. The quality of individual brews are often different.
To be honest, as long as you accept that you are going to perhaps throw up at some point, and you trust your friend as a source, I would give it a go with a mugfull of a brew over a period of say an hour, and see what happens. Ayahuasca is non toxic, provided you fast for a few hours before, and avoid the list of dangerous foods for a few hours afterwards. With a bit of luck you'll get to see some odd stuff. If you have no result after an hour or so, have some more.
I recommend you have a word with your buddy again and get some more info first.
Good luck - Pipp
 
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Here's our Big & Dandy Ayahuasca thread There's lots of preparation info in there

First lets start with the basics: Ayahuasca is a 2 part mixture. You only have 1 of those parts right now.

In a jar labelled Ayahuasca I would say you have the MAOI component (Banisteriopsis Caapi). Caapi vine goes by the name of Ayahuasca vine while Mimosa Hostilis is called Jurema.

Ayahuasca vine = Banisteriopsis Caapi.

Erowid said:
COMMON NAMES
Caapi; Ayahuasca; Yage; Yaje
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/banisteriopsis/banisteriopsis.shtml

Now you need to get a DMT component. Mimosa Hostilis or Psychotria Viridis are the most common. The traditional Ayahuasca blend is Banisteriopsis Caapi and Psychotria Viridis.
 
Would it be possible to just eat the Syrian Rue say 2 - 3 grams and then eat the Mimosa Hostillis Bark Powder about 8grams or so half hour later without doing any boiling would this still take effect?
 
^ Swallowing 8 grams of powdered rootbark is going to be extremely harsh on your stomach and you will probably vomit it up before absorbing much alkaloid.

Much better to make a tea, utterly foul-tasting tho it may be.

There is a tek somewhere for using egg-whites to remove the tannins in mimosa, which are responsible for a lot of the stomach irritation. Might want to search that out, could be the difference between immediate projectile regurgitation and a successful trip :)


Also, Bare_head, just so you know, mimosa + rue at a solid dose is known to be a rather white-knuckled experience. I've heard the term "bucking bronco" used more than a few times. So be prepared - just in case ;) 8o
 
Moclobemide would cause a lot less nausea than syrian rue, but even moclo and extracted DMT causes some nausea once the DMT kicks in.
 
g1zzl3 said:
Would it be possible to just eat the Syrian Rue say 2 - 3 grams and then eat the Mimosa Hostillis Bark Powder about 8grams or so half hour later without doing any boiling would this still take effect?
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I'm all for parachuting straight powders but I don't think this one would be good. I take 8 grams of kava root by parachute but I think Mimosa root powder would likely get rejected by the GI pretty quickly.

If you could hold it down sure it would take effect but even if that stuff stays down there the side effects you would experience would be pretty bad. :\

Merging with B&D
 
syrian rue + DMT (liquid)

I am very new to this, my friend told me he has ayahuasca. He told me he would give me 4g of syrian rue, and 14g dmt.

If i ate the 4g 30 minute before drinking the liquid... would that work?

Sorry i am totally new to this.
 
i think you meant to say 14mg....14g is a hell of a dose for a first timer.

he probably brewed it with 14g of bark.
 
but my stomach should be ok eatint the rue straight and then drinking the dmt mixture 20 minutes or so after?
 
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