The Big & Dandy N-Ethyl-Norketamine Thread

[knock]

20mgs MXE was enough to blow me away.

I wish I could say that! If I take 20mgs MXE now, I barely notice any effect. 50mg makes me feel mildly stimulated and a bit stupid.

25mg used to knock me for six. If you want to lose the dissociative magic, just kick the fuck out them for a year

 

[rockstar 69]

For me it was more than enough, because there never was much of a tolerance to this class of compounds. Haven't taken MXE or any other dissociative for at least 6 weeks and roughly two weeks after dosing the NEK 20mgs MXE was enough to blow me away.

Whatever, i think plugging it was a total waste so i cannot really say much about it, except that i've found it a bit weaker than expected.

A dissociative tolerance is something that lasts a LONG time. Most people who have a serious K tolerance got very little out of MXE, a mate of mine who had a sky high K tolerance when MXE came out ended up doing 150mg lines of MXE to no dissociative effect when he first tried it.

Likewise from what Mugz has said he got virtually nothing off NEK because he'd been abusing MXE for a while. Effie has even said half gram lines of good ketamine do nothing for her since her MXE phase.

I can't stress this enough if you have a proper tolerance to any of these drugs it will have a huge effect on what your likely to get out of trying the rest.

 

[THCified]

I've never done MXE too regular, just too high dosed as i think. On Monday i had one of the best ever experiences with this stuff, with 20mgs...

It's hard to withstand because it's so nice, but if i can get so much out of it just by doing it not too often, then i'm in!

Whatever, i'll totally give the Nek a second chance, but not atm.

 

[coolcucumber]

I still seemed to have a tolerance from my heavy MXE use for months after stopping. Don't underestimate how long it takes for the tolerance to drop.

 

[lynx2051]

It would be difficult to write a trip report for an oral dose at 100mg. I may go up to 150mg and write a proper report. This is a good chemical but it's just so short lasting when sniffed.

 

[lynx2051]

Just to point out this really can be rather habit forming.

 

[shulginsrat]

Few trials over past couple days.

1st was 70mg snorted. Really clogged up sinuses and didn't notice any substantial effects, - though the clogged sinuses and sour drip were very distracting. The thought of taking more in this manner is somewhat unpleasant.

2nd, 100mg plugged. Absolutely no change. Shame as this is a preferred ROA (plugged mxe was bliss).

Considered giving up entirely on the compound.

Then, tonight, 160mg orally. Hands/Feet became a little cold after 10 minutes (vasoconstriction?), then after about 25 minutes began to build into a very gentle euphoria. Not overhwelming and quite pleasant. Some slight dissociation but not too heavy. Will be curious to try a higher dose. Back to baseline in an hour. Wondering how much it would take to hole on this - probably too much to make it economical for a casual explorer?

It has potential but atm it's somewhat overpriced.

How was sublingual?

 

[scotty5591]

Few trials over past couple days.

1st was 70mg snorted. Really clogged up sinuses and didn't notice any substantial effects, - though the clogged sinuses and sour drip were very distracting. The thought of taking more in this manner is somewhat unpleasant.

2nd, 100mg plugged. Absolutely no change. Shame as this is a preferred ROA (plugged mxe was bliss).

Considered giving up entirely on the compound.

Then, tonight, 160mg orally. Hands/Feet became a little cold after 10 minutes (vasoconstriction?), then after about 25 minutes began to build into a very gentle euphoria. Not overhwelming and quite pleasant. Some slight dissociation but not too heavy. Will be curious to try a higher dose. Back to baseline in an hour. Wondering how much it would take to hole on this - probably too much to make it economical for a casual explorer?

It has potential but atm it's somewhat overpriced.

How was sublingual?

If this is the effects people are getting at dosages like this i think i'll pass on this stuff

 

[Hammilton]

None of this thread is about ethyl-ketamine. Why hasn't the title been changed?

This is quite obviously N-ethylnorketamine. N-ethylketamine might be interesting, but that's not the subject of the thread.

 

[sekio]

Nomenclature is a bitch aint it.

Everyone knows what you're talking about if you say "ethylketamine". Nobody is going to make ACHA prodrugs until theyve been legislated to all hell like the cathinones </half-sarcasm>

N,N-ethyl-methyl-2-oxo-(2-chlorophenyl)cyclohexylamine is not even something that's availiable, I don't think. To the best of my knoledge the dialkyl phencyclamines are prodrugs for the 2ndary amines and dont have much activity themselves

 

[Hammilton]

That seems unlikely, PCP is obviously active!

Obviously dialkyl substitutions are best when they're in a ring- morpholine or piperidine are apparently best. However, I'm about 90% sure that 1-(N,N-dimethylamino)-1-phenylcyclohexylamine is active.

 

[SilentRoller]

Has anyone get any information regarding potential bladder issues/nastyness with N-Ethyl-Ketamine? Obviously since it is fairly similar to regular K, would it be right to assume that the chances of bladder scarring etc will be the same.

 

[Hammilton]

Yeah, there's obviously tons. A compound that has virtually no history of human or even animal testing (certainly no published history) is bound to have tons of information available about the possibility of a rare side effect rarely seen with a related drug...

It's probably best to avoid doing drugs at all, especially those that haven't been tested at all. Barring that, it's best to limit the dose and frequency of one's use. Barring that, one should accept that they will likely face both obvious, but more importantly, unforeseen and unforeseeable consequences from their behavior.


I guess if I were using compounds like these, what would scare me most about all about these RC's is that we might going to happen on a teratogen like thalidomide and have a real mess, where your bad choices will not effect just yourself, but will damage any children your conceive. This is primarily a concern for females who may or may not become pregnant. There's certainly a positive correlation with drug use and accidental pregnancies.

Additionally, it's quite possible as we get into more and more novel structures we may happen on a teratogen that doesn't have to be used DURING pregnancy to cause problems. Or that will damage sperm and cause birth defects through the male contribution to the child.

 

[rockstar 69]

Lol to the guy 2 posts ago. What they are all talking about IS N-ethyl-ketamine, norketamine is pretty much a misunderstood term and ethyl-ketamine and n-ethyl-ketamine are the same thing are they not?

I would imagine this stuff is not good on the stomach/bladder at all really. It seemed harsher on the nose, and with the doses required being higher/or at least as high. I can't see it being any less damaging really.

It is definately overpriced, ketamine is a little itself at the moment compared to what it used to be, but it's still worth it.

 

[SilentRoller]

Lol to the guy 2 posts ago. What they are all talking about IS N-ethyl-ketamine

Yes, I'm aware of that. I'm not quite sure what your point is here. The question in my post was directed towards the compound N-Ethyl-Ketamine. Hence why I said this:

information regarding potential bladder issues/nastyness with N-Ethyl-Ketamine?

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Concerning bladder/kidneys etc, thats bad news. Not that I have used K before (although I have a sample of N-E-K coming), but I can just imagine people treating this like MXE, and having their bladder fall out into a puddle on the pavement.

 

[psychodead]

one should accept that they will likely face both obvious, but more importantly, unforeseen and unforeseeable consequences from their behavior.

you just pretty much put me off using this stuff now wishi hadnt placed that order

 

[SilentRoller]

Lets just take a step back for a minute shall we. While I agree with hammilton's notion that we all risk possible dire consequences for our dabbling in untested RC's; In this case N-Ethyl-Ketamine is structurally close enough to Ketamine, that we can give a reasonably accurate guess at the effects profile. Of course, I am not for one minute stating that we should throw caution to the wind, and it the spirit of HR, I would say that anyone who starts consuming large and regular quantities of N-E-K, is a great candidate for the Darwin award.

I myself have a 250mg of N-E-K arriving in the next day or so, and truth be told, I am anxious about trying due to: a) having never tried K before, and b)I am aware of bladder issues caused by K use. However, we should be rational about this. One or two lines of a very close K homologue is not going to cause your bladder to shrink to a peanut, and lead to a life of pissing yourself. On the other hand, I would strongly discourage anyone to go about ordering grammes of this stuff, as regular use of a untested compound is just plain stupid. We are pushing our luck far enough as it is (taking an untested chemical), lets not stack the odds against us any further.

As a closing thought though, I am quite concerned about the bladder issues surrounding Ketamine, considering N-E-K is "meant" to be a thrid more potent than Ketamine. I for one value my perfectly working bladder, and don't wish to be using a catheter for the rest of my life. Be careful everyone.

 

[scotty5591]

Just placed an order of 1g of this arriving tomorrow, will hopefully write up a brief review on it very soon

Think I'll try oral first though as nasal sounds extremely unpleasent

 

[lurching]

Interesting development, but for the price of one gram of n-ethyl-ketamine I can get three grams of regular ketamine without having to wait to get it shipped to me.

And from a legality viewpoint it wouldn't matter much whether the authorities found one gram of n-ethyl-ketamine on me or one gram of regular ketamine. Consequences would be the same (possession of a small amount of ketamine, i.e. nihil, as in most first world countries) unless they'd be willing to do an involved lab test on the single gram to acertain that it's not regular ketamine but a legal homologue.

 

[lurching]

Sure if the police caught you with a gramme of white powder, you would spend the night in the cells, but once they conduct a test on the material, they will find out its not a controlled substance.

They'd have to do a rather elaborate test to distinguish N-EK from Ketamine and I'm not sure if they'd even bother. BTW in my country it's allowed to be held in a cell for up to three days while the lab tests are performed (even though it's very unlikely you'd go to a cell for a tiny bag of suspected ketamine here).