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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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going back to the tinnitus from wikki

"Subjective tinnitus is also a side effect of some medications, such as aspirin, and may also result from an abnormally low level of serotonin activity. It is also a classical side effect of quinidine, a Class IA anti-arrhythmic. Over 260 medications have been reported to cause tinnitus as a side effect.[22] In many cases, however, no underlying physical cause can be identified."

serotonin....would MXE use, reduce serotonin? and regular use...= tinnitus?
 
No, it works on other receptors. Maybe it causes it by doing something to those, but I have had my tinnitus disappear when I'm sleeping, but in the day I hear strange series of creaks. Like eeeeeeee randomly.
 
What kind of doses have you been smoking it at? Might have to give it a whirl.
I sandwiched like 30mg in there. One hit from the middle of the bowl was enough to provide a spike in effects for a few minutes. I've tried smoking MXE other ways, to much less success. I find adding it to the JWH glue helps immensely.
 
I sandwiched like 30mg in there. One hit from the middle of the bowl was enough to provide a spike in effects for a few minutes. I've tried smoking MXE other ways, to much less success. I find adding it to the JWH glue helps immensely.

Hmm, interesting. I don't have any JWH unfortunately, I was thinking of loading my pipe with tobacco or weed with a bit of MXE sprinkled in the middle. Would it work better off tin foil do you think?
 
Last night I think I took too much, seriously. I think I figured out the antidepressant effect of MXE, or for disassociation if you will. If you take enough, you will lose touch with who you are and may begin thinking really weird things about yourself. Perhaps that you are the missing link or something really ridiculous along those lines, anyways, when you finally snap out of it and hit a dose of sobriety you realize the tripped out world is wayyyyy more difficult than the real world, and the real world is actually a lot easier to deal with. Then you are like ok, I'm not in the other reality anymore, great, just great. Antidepression at its finest! Plus I'm still really high, and it wasn't just MXE, but I'm sure that was the instigator.
 
Last night I think I took too much, seriously. I think I figured out the antidepressant effect of MXE, or for disassociation if you will. If you take enough, you will lose touch with who you are and may begin thinking really weird things about yourself. Perhaps that you are the missing link or something really ridiculous along those lines, anyways, when you finally snap out of it and hit a dose of sobriety you realize the tripped out world is wayyyyy more difficult than the real world, and the real world is actually a lot easier to deal with. Then you are like ok, I'm not in the other reality anymore, great, just great. Antidepression at its finest! Plus I'm still really high, and it wasn't just MXE, but I'm sure that was the instigator.

maybe it was real until you decided you didn't want it to happen =p
 
they reported some kind of psychic communication

Nice that's a pretty wild experience. Last night I thought my John Lennon Y Sign Statue of Liberty poster in the corner of the room was actually smiling at me.

Regarding dosing frequency, you should definitely respect this chemical as LSD, DMT and things similarly powerful. The brain needs time to rest after high doses. Harm reduction and safety/health attention can go a long way towards making the experience easier to deal with physically (mainly exhaustion), but more than once and at most twice (if you prepare your body well) a week is just asking for trouble, probably regardless of dose, in my opinion. I don't know maybe some people here would disagree with that, but it is a very strong drug.
 
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Think I may have overdone it a bit last night. Woke up this morning feeling fine, but after I got out of bed I started having some chest pains. The pain comes and goes all day long, but I think I may have pulled a muscle in my chest, because when I purposely raise my heartbeat the pain doesn't get worse. My heart is not 100% to start with, so any time I get chest pain, my heart is the first thing that pops in my head. About to see what opiates do for the pain.
 
It is amazing how awesome small doses of 20-30mgish do for my social anxiety disorder. Absolutely shreds the best benzo out there. Social ease without the asshole effect of being excessively uninhibited (leading to foolish actions and hurtful words - common with high dose benzos).

Also this has stopped my opioid tolerance hot in its tracks, making it far easier for me to taper and saving me money.

Seems each time I use this I discover more new ways it benefits me.

You know, I don't know how to articulate this but I get this effect where I feel every pore in my skin is "breathing" pure air. It's an amazing sensation.
 
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I've experienced making love for the first time in a dissociative state. Really interesting feeling, I was feeling the body of my girlfriend like grey antimatter, a great increase in imagination. It felt very spiritual to say the less. I didn't manage to reach orgasm, but that wasn't important to me, the pleasure was, again, more spiritual than in a baseline state of craving for some basic sex.

Oh and this was at the end of a session, with 15mg plugged after 2 or 3 15mg plugged too with 1h to 1h30 between each dosing.
 
I got some of this for the first time today. I can tell it's quite a bit more-ish and I've already ruined it a bit for myself (done it when not supposed to etc). However I can tell that, as others have said, small doses are GREAT for depression and anxiety.

For the first time today, I actually felt like going and doing the things I should. It was like I could look at my compulsions to piss away time/drink alcohol/etc objectively, and then decide not to entertain them. A great feeling. I can't tell you what dosage this was as my scale is arriving on Tuesday, though I started out with the drug by titrating up from 1 grain of sand to 2 and so on eventually reaching an ideal "therapeutic" dose of a small line I'd say about 1cm long and not very thick. Not a good description, I'm guessing it'll weigh about 10-15mg when I check it on Tuesday (will get back to you guys then).

I'm seriously considering putting 10-15mg of this into a bunch of gelcaps and just taking it as needed for depression (but not more than 1 at a time - I know what happens then!) Has anyone noticed adverse affects from this kind of regular, low dosage use?

This stuff beats the shit out of klonopin, adderall, SSRIs, etc in terms of helping me. When I take klonopin, I take more and more until I become a zombie and then I can't do the things I want. Adderall makes me too hyper - plus I'm just as likely to become super focused at renaming my entire mp3 collection (waste of time) as I am at actually doing the work I need to do. SSRI's make me go completely wonky. This stuff actually made me feel........clear, like I wanted to better myself. I still had to make the effort to do it, but it made it feel possible. I noticed some of this effect with Ketamine, but the mental fogginess and the greater sense of loneliness (plus the even greater compulsion to redose I found with K) made it impossible for me to use it therapeutically. I have an addictive personality and the last thing I need is to end up like John Lilly.

I have one question if you don't answer anything else in my post: any recommendations on how not to "ruin" a drug for oneself? As I've said, I have issues with poor self control. Because of this, I can't take medicines like Ambien, Adderall, Klonopin, Ketamine, and several other things that have actually helped me in the past because I always want to push the limit to the "recreational" dose rather than the one that helps me get shit done. And when you do that a lot, well you start associating the drug with getting fucked up rather than actually bettering yourself. Any recommendations on how to avoid this?
 
It is amazing how awesome small doses of 20-30mgish do for my social anxiety disorder. Absolutely shreds the best benzo out there. Social ease without the asshole effect of being excessively uninhibited (leading to foolish actions and hurtful words - common with high dose benzos).

Also this has stopped my opioid tolerance hot in its tracks, making it far easier for me to taper and saving me money.

Seems each time I use this I discover more new ways it benefits me.

You know, I don't know how to articulate this but I get this effect where I feel every pore in my skin is "breathing" pure air. It's an amazing sensation.

I've felt the same exact effects (minus the opiod tolerance - not prescribed them)! Do you plan on using this regularly or once in a while or what? I'm afraid of replacing addictions to time-wasting/alcohol/etc with an addiction to this which wouldn't be good, but I feel it's genuinely helpful if used properly.
 
My opoid tolerance increased from 30mg morphine to 70mg morphine over the space of 2 weeks daily MXE use.. no opiate use in that time.

My anxiety has gotten a lot better with consistent MXE use but I have cut down now. I don't think daily dosing is all that great for you and who knows the risks really.
 
This thread is nearly always at the top in PD.

And the comments are nearly always the same from different people. They are either:

a. I did too much
b. This is a magic/ miracle drug
c. i think im doing too much / addicted.

Sounds like when cocaine first appeared, no?
 
Is there any chemical link to tryptamines from this stuff? on high doses of MXE ive found a few elements from DMT trips become aparent which is odd. unless its mimicking things ive experienced on DMT

Anyone used this stuff in low doses to aid MDMA or Mephedrone come downs?

after using low does of this stuff to relax and chill i dont think i'll ever touch cannabis again

fuck it, time to order some more before this amazing stuff gets banned
 
I've felt the same exact effects (minus the opiod tolerance - not prescribed them)! Do you plan on using this regularly or once in a while or what? I'm afraid of replacing addictions to time-wasting/alcohol/etc with an addiction to this which wouldn't be good, but I feel it's genuinely helpful if used properly.

Once in a while, usually once a week. I don't have as much time as I'd like to be able to go into the dissociative state. Plus I don't want to develop a NMDA tolerance.
 
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