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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 17 - South-Kansas is going bye-bye

It's all good, DatColoredPersonJ, I just wanted to point out that you know, you can't truly speak for other people... I'm picking up what your putting down though. In moderation dissociatives aren't that bad. I like your enthusiasm and respect your want to Help?!? other people but just do it in a less jarring way, ya know? Like share your experience and tell people about how you thought you saw some light but then the darkness consumed you, provide warnings but just don't put words into other people's mouths! Like your trying to say because I may have used fifty grams over six or so years that I'm an addict? Well do the math bra. I like high doses and rarely do less than 80mgs at a time, it may not have started out like that, but with ketamine, and the exception of stronger ones like 3-MeO-PCP, I go deep! I dose high and combo, does that make me an addict? Who's to say but me, and most certainly not you because your not me, and you don't know me or my story, so don't tread on me like that... Is all I'm saying..! I mean mathematically, fifty grams over six years isn't that insane the way I was dosing. Doing an average of one hundred mgs per experience, it really doesn't equate to that much extravaganzce. It's like all I'm saying is look at the big picture and don't trap yourself in an arrogant box mang. That isn't what the expansion of psychedelics is about, but it can be when you get egotistical and manic about it... Take it easy man, and I'm glad to see you came through to the other side better!<3
 
Good points both of you made. Help!? I've also probably used a good 50+ up to 100gs myself of the stuff. I did like combos and high dosing too. I considered myself addicted to be using so much but I guess thats just my definition. Didn't mean to come off as an egotistical maniac in my first posts thats why i came back and tried to kind of clarify. Reformed drug addicts like me are quite annoying at times I admit. Thanks for reading my posts and taking them into consideration, you too take it easy :)
 
I wasn't necessarily trying to be confrontational with you man, but I gotta stand up for my beliefs. So I guess in this case, agree to disagree? :)

It's not that I don't know where your coming from, I do. I had a DXM addiction ( I prefer the word fascination ) way before I ever knew what MXE was. When I first started doing it in hs, it helped me so much socially and made me so much happier all around. Over time, it did turn to an escape but it never interfered with my life. My whole time at uni I used DXM and I pulled almost perfect grades , actually the only one semester bad semester i had was when i started taking etizolam ( anyone that preaches against using that stuff irresponsibly , you have my blessing! ).
The first few times I truly experienced MXE, it was like a blessing from God . Outside of ecstacy, I hadn't felt those kind of feelings on that magnitude since my first 25-50 times using DXM. Gradually I started using the MXE daily and during multiple periods I have certainly had what many people would label as an addiction. But for me those times were an important part of the cycle. Each time I come off It after an extended period of usage , or should I say every time I go back after a nice break from it , I have a better understanding of my mind, body , and the chemical and I feel that each time I come back I am able to use it more effectively and responsibly than before. I never had anyone to tell me do this, do that when it comes to drugs. I had to figure it all out for myself, including the more negative aspects such as reliance. So yeah I've had times where I was irresponsible/naive and had to pay for it. But I came out of it stronger. Sure, it's probably cost me some memory , social skills, and other life experiences , but some of the most valuable and cherished revelations i've had in my life have resulted from it and I wouldn't take that back for the world.

Speaking of memory , that reminds me of a thought I had on MXE when considering the possibilty that I may be losing the knowledge i've gained throughout my life. "when i get to the end of my life would i rather be able to say i can solve some differential equations and integrals , or say simply I've had a good time? " that's what made me decide i didnt want to devote my life to study math anymore. because MXE offered me much more marginal benefit. It's simple economics, bro.

I'm rambling now (blame it on the 2-fma) but what I came here to say in the first place was sorry for what I said on the 3-meo thread, cause being a douche isn't me . It's just when you come at mxe like that, I'm liable to react like an evangelist being confronted by an atheist. ;)
 
Respect your opinions :). Also know exactly where your coming from. I mostly based my opinions 2 days ago based on my 3-meo-pcp experience. I had such high hopes and I ended up staying up for like 24 hours on it not knowing how to sleep, dosing high and just losing it. I literally didn't know how to do anything and I was just stuck in a felt like never ending paranoid state. It may of cost me $100 in 3-meo-pcp flushing it which I could of easily got my money back from from giving it to someone else, but I think it was a positive learning experience. I can now reflect that dissociatives are a no no for me. It kind of reminded me how I used to feel when I felt down on MXE. 3-meo and MXE are different but I'd say this blank never ending paranoid state of mind that I had was pretty similar to how I felt sometimes on MXE. I used to be addicted to high doses though so most people who use responsiblity probably wouldnt experience this. I kind of regretted flushing it and wasting my money, but I felt it was the best thing to do. I don't want to pass off any problems to other people or possibly set myself up for any more problems in the future. I probably could of enjoyed the chemical if I used it correctly and didn't go overboard. Personally, I think I'll be better off without that risk though.
 
Let's get back to simple MXE talk how about guys %)

So, recently when I went to Ren Fest, I wore sandles all weekend and my feet got pretty nasty. When I came back from the fest, I was feeling bummed it was over and after some relaxation decided to dose some MXE that night. I experienced a phenomena I have only seen with MXE, where my feet still felt like I was wearing my dirty ass sandles for the whole trip, until I'd look down and realize I was finally barefoot... then minutes later, I'd feel like I had my dirty sandles on again. Has anyone experienced this 'phantom object' phenomenon before? I found it quite intriguing.
 
Hey, some people like to watch tv 10 hors a day. some people like to shop 10 horurs a day. some people watch porn 10 hours a day. i think vortech is doing something creative and having a good time. I never feel like i had addiction to mxe myself but i know what real addiction is because of opiates. i never crossed the line into immoral behavior fer even heroin but everyone is different. I think mxe and dissociatives in general opened my eyes and to look at the bigger pic.

Feel like i am a single cell and part of a larger organism that is the universe we all live in.people who are nuts before they find drugs will always blame the drugs as will society but only you know yourself. Blessings to alll...
 
Stored away a sample of MXE for about 2 years. When I finally tried it, it just felt drunk but without the fun parts, and my head felt heavy.
Considering getting more, but is the quality the same as it was 3 years ago?
 
^If you can even find it... probably not. I doubt your sample degraded though. MXE can just be funny like that. I'd say 1 out of 7 or so trips on MXE is off for me.
 
Madrus said:
Stored away a sample of MXE for about 2 years. When I finally tried it, it just felt drunk but without the fun parts, and my head felt heavy.
Considering getting more, but is the quality the same as it was 3 years ago?
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Hard to say. If you have no tolerance, MXE should be confusing but certainly more fun than alcohol intoxication. Perhaps I'm just speaking for the subset of the population that tend towards dissociatives though. Have you any prior MXE experience to this sample? It's entirely possible you have diphenidine or another dissociative, Im of the opinion that given quality MXE, the reaction you describe is somewhat unlikely. If you're sure you can get real MXE, I say go for it. At worst, you realize that MXE isn't for you.
 
Ah thanks for the link vortech !!

definetly checking it out in the train to amsterdam next tuesday :)

BTW, I feel it is only in the MXE thread that there's a lot of hate, not towards the substance per se, but towards the people using it. More so than in other threads definetly. Comon folks ease up !
 
Peacehog1979 said:
That's completely nuts. That kind of tolerance cannot be good on your liver...but I digress....
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What does your liver have to do with anything? I doubt MXE has much hepatoxcity to it... Also I'll still blast high doses like that without a tolerance, there's crazy MF'ers like me out there who just love diving deep into the ethers. Sometimes I'll dose intermittently depending on how much I have or what's going on, but sometimes it's awesome to just blast 125mgs into my thigh and then vale some hash with good headphones on, and melt into my recliner!;)
 
Peacesnog1979 said:
Something has to filter it from your body, so it's either your liver or your kidneys
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Yeah well for MXE I believe it's more the kidneys. Either way though simply because something has to be excreted doesn't make it a problem for that system. There has to be somewhat specfic things to make it become to heavy a load and veere into toxicity. Also putting multiple things that use the same metabolic pathway can heighten the strain... Our bodies for the most part are fairly effcient when it comes to that.

Edit: It can also be complicated by the fact that the liver may metabolize a substance but it may also be excreted through the kidneys...
 
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I never questioned toxicity, but rather the strain of metabolizing large quantities of unresearched chemicals (and with unknown purity ....jah only knows what the Chinese labs are using as equipment ;heavy metals etc.....)

Although seeing as ketamine is used at a pretty big dose is surgical settings I'd assume it's fairly safe....but all the time.....hard to say
 
Peacejog197000203 said:
I never questioned toxicity, but rather the strain of metabolizing large quantities of unresearched chemicals (and with unknown purity ....jah only knows what the Chinese labs are using as equipment ;heavy metals etc.....)

Although seeing as ketamine is used at a pretty big dose is surgical settings I'd assume it's fairly safe....but all the time.....hard to say
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Exactly....you never know but given the years of anecdotal evidence from users and the analogues safety we can glance a guess that's it's not something of super high priority...
 
^^^ Well, if anecdotal evidence is what you want, there are plenty of MXE users reporting kidney pain from extended use. No idea if there's validity to it, but many people have reported it...
 
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