Whatever, I stay by my word. Maybe you can abide to moderation, but I couldn't. I honestly think most people who use these substances have a problem their trying to cope with. The fact that people use the word "meta-programming" their minds or "tuning themselves" is just complete delusional talk. Reminds me of my old friend who used DXM for a year every day saying he was creating artificial intelligence and learned how to control minds. People who do dissociatives often are drug addicts. For you who preach that it is good for you, you have a problem. I've had a serious addiction to these substances and am not biased or anything. They will give you rhabodomyolsis over time ruining your muscles and kidneys. You will not feel pain and overexert yourself and not know. I'm not spewing bullshit, I been through heaven and hell with dissociatives trust me.
☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 17 - South-Kansas is going bye-bye
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As much as I love MXE, I can really vibe with what you're saying here. When this thread became a constant stream of "flesh of god" and "meta-programming" talk... I just couldn't connect with what people were saying any longer. I still use MXE every few weeks, but coming in here and seeing the talk that some of us disso heads talk... it worries me. It's what keeps my usage in check.
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Ha, people do that with psychedelics aka DMT/entities. I don't really care for it but as long as people don't go to deep with it, I don't see to much harm. I mean who knows mang, maybe dimitri does force fuck your third eye open and channel long dead ancestors or connect you to aliens. I mean shit, at one point you were crazy if you didn't think the Earth was flat and at first Gravity was considered insane mumbo jumbo too. I mean some invisible force keeping us strapped to the earth like moon boots?!? Dats crazy right?!?
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^Fair enough hah. I mean, I interpret LSD to be "God" in the flesh so to speak. One man's disso is another man's Lord and savior I guess.
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I know you weren't really being offensive but DatAfricanAmericanPersonJ is running around the dissociative threads rambling about how he's better than us preaching about overcoming his demons or some other nonesense, and I can be pretty sarcastic, so I decided to flip it around a bit. I mean psychedelics should be teaching you guys to be opposite!
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could you elaborate a bit more? It could be very useful to other users to know more details regarding dose (approximate is fine), lenght of episode, and content of delusion-paranoia. Also, it sounds like an interesting story
Dat african american j lmao thats great. Its nigga not nigger lol. I'm not actually black and no racism intented, its all slang but w/e.
I didnt mean to talk like I was overcoming demons, but trying to relate to you dissoc heads by saying "i been though heaven and hell with dissociatives". Im saying ive had good times but i've come to realization that the stuff is bad. I think I went a little far in my rant, but I do honestly think many of you are delusional on them and I do believe dissociatives are damaging to the kidneys and muscles. It takes a hell of a lot of abuse to do big damage with them but I'm just reflecting on my use. I used to do 1g of mxe a day pretty easily at points... The stimulant effects and numbing effects of mxe together is bad for the body IMO. Its dehydrating, pushing your body to perform to longer extents while numbing any pain you may feel.
I remember vividly that I felt like I had some superhuman strength on the stuff, especially deep into the binge. I could stretch my body farther than I could without drugs. I could walk/run for long distances for long periods of time without feeling as tired or as much pain.
Serious addiction is substances is known to be damaging to matter what and dissociatives are certainly a culprit. I think they cause really strong delusions as well. The time dialation effect on them can be very euphoric but I've felt to be really scarey at times too. The meta programming talk and tuning yourself is the biggest evidence of delusions I've seen.
My opinion is that people seeing entities on DMT and psychadelics ect are somewhat delusional too. They alter perception and maybe they see what they see as an entity of their life thru a vison. Its all opinion what you believe in. Fuck sake go to an AA/NA meeting especially where meth is prevelant and listen to what they say about demons/god ect
Mxe is not improving anyone life it is simply getting you high.
I don't mean to be attacking people, but when someone is claiming to be spending ridiculous amounts of time writing a 100 page book on mxe I have to be brutally honest.
I did have an interest to read it, but i don't anymore. It would be a waste of time to read that much bullshit. It sounds like more of a diary combined with a bunch of opinions and delusions of how you feel on dissociatives.Thats a fucking problem mate, from the bottom of my heart...find something better to do.
Sorry, not sorry.
As I said earlier. I don't have time but I wasted enough of my life on these drugs to at least spend some time reflecting on what they did to me to warn others.
DATAFRICANAMERICANJ out
I didnt mean to talk like I was overcoming demons, but trying to relate to you dissoc heads by saying "i been though heaven and hell with dissociatives". Im saying ive had good times but i've come to realization that the stuff is bad. I think I went a little far in my rant, but I do honestly think many of you are delusional on them and I do believe dissociatives are damaging to the kidneys and muscles. It takes a hell of a lot of abuse to do big damage with them but I'm just reflecting on my use. I used to do 1g of mxe a day pretty easily at points... The stimulant effects and numbing effects of mxe together is bad for the body IMO. Its dehydrating, pushing your body to perform to longer extents while numbing any pain you may feel.
I remember vividly that I felt like I had some superhuman strength on the stuff, especially deep into the binge. I could stretch my body farther than I could without drugs. I could walk/run for long distances for long periods of time without feeling as tired or as much pain.
Serious addiction is substances is known to be damaging to matter what and dissociatives are certainly a culprit. I think they cause really strong delusions as well. The time dialation effect on them can be very euphoric but I've felt to be really scarey at times too. The meta programming talk and tuning yourself is the biggest evidence of delusions I've seen.
My opinion is that people seeing entities on DMT and psychadelics ect are somewhat delusional too. They alter perception and maybe they see what they see as an entity of their life thru a vison. Its all opinion what you believe in. Fuck sake go to an AA/NA meeting especially where meth is prevelant and listen to what they say about demons/god ect
Mxe is not improving anyone life it is simply getting you high.
I don't mean to be attacking people, but when someone is claiming to be spending ridiculous amounts of time writing a 100 page book on mxe I have to be brutally honest.
I did have an interest to read it, but i don't anymore. It would be a waste of time to read that much bullshit. It sounds like more of a diary combined with a bunch of opinions and delusions of how you feel on dissociatives.Thats a fucking problem mate, from the bottom of my heart...find something better to do.
Sorry, not sorry.
As I said earlier. I don't have time but I wasted enough of my life on these drugs to at least spend some time reflecting on what they did to me to warn others.
DATAFRICANAMERICANJ out
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Wow, so much hate on a book that you've never even read. Are you assuming things? And what's really rude is to talk like that about something someone put so much work into. It's obvious your a very closed-minded, hypocritical, and negative person - MXE is about being non-judgemental, true to yourself, and positive. Good luck, homie.
well It was at 4th night on mxe and this time I want little bit more and from another and suposed best mxe...like more yellow and more smooth on the nose.
Start at 8 with +-17mg, mild efects
the I was thinking wierd things. Loose the magic or something like this.
At 22 or so redosing with 15mg more, I was a little bad triping, not chill at all
It was very cold list night like 5º outside. Then I star hearing wierd things at the building, knocking and stomping I hear it even with the headphones, at this point I had a few bumps more.
Then I was getting really bored, thinking random things and memories and majority negative...
I had a mild taquicardia and then I put some clothes on because the cold. got a little afraid so .. I started to get like a small panic atack, I ran to the fridge to pick up a beer for chill out and ran to the outside.
I started to thing other people and saw shadow people, my walk had wierd coordinations, I was like walking on circles looking back, feeling overwhelmed, thinking hard that I get another substances from my dealer, and becoming to worry that like this binge is bad idea.
Half and hour later, with the walk and the beer a was chilling out. But I was thinking very deeply at lives and so on, I had more visuals than ever, lights morphing, other like seeing in fotograms, sound hallucinating a litter bit..lol
Then back home, drank 2 o 3 more beer and fall asleep more relaxed...
But today I wake up more motivadet and stimulated, feeling realy good, like I learned something.
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About a year ago, I acquired some MXE through a fairly reliable source. I had been reading these threads and became extremely interested in experiencing this compound. I tried 25 mg orally and then settled in to watch a movie. The experience was very disappointing and essentially felt like being drunk without any euphoria. It mostly felt disorienting. So I shelved the compound and decided I didn't like it. I couldn't understand why there was so much fuss about it.
Last week after a couple of beers I went to bed and found a second dose of 25 mg MXE that I had left in my nightstand. I impulsively popped it and pulled up the covers. Same stuff from the same stash. 45 minutes later I was in a blissful state of reflection. I could not believe the same compound could produce such different results. I was clearly not holing but it left me wanting for more. Some things that had been stressing me out were suddenly in perfect perspective and there was some very pleasing, somewhat dreamlike imagery.
Is it common to have such vastly differing experiences when starting out? I will only use this compound lying down in the dark now. 50 mg measured out and very excited to explore further. Wish me luck!
Last week after a couple of beers I went to bed and found a second dose of 25 mg MXE that I had left in my nightstand. I impulsively popped it and pulled up the covers. Same stuff from the same stash. 45 minutes later I was in a blissful state of reflection. I could not believe the same compound could produce such different results. I was clearly not holing but it left me wanting for more. Some things that had been stressing me out were suddenly in perfect perspective and there was some very pleasing, somewhat dreamlike imagery.
Is it common to have such vastly differing experiences when starting out? I will only use this compound lying down in the dark now. 50 mg measured out and very excited to explore further. Wish me luck!
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My first experience was pretty glorious, but the few times I tried it after that it felt uncomfortable and like you said, kind of drunk without the euphoria. Then one night I tried it at a higher dosage in the perfect setting and it was magical, and it remained that way for quite some time. I used it 2-3 times per week for a few months and after that it's never been as good.
vortech - I was just being brutally honest to try to help you realize that you most likely have a problem on your hands your not realizing. You really think its not a problem to spend 10 hours a day writing a book about MXE? About altered states of consciouness and tuning your brain and what not? Sober up for a while and I bet you will realize that you were pretty delusional. Look I know im coming off as an asshole. I'm pretty damn certain there is no way you wrote such a long book about MXE without just rambling on about bullshit dissociative induced delusions. Since no one else had the balls to say it, I will
ecstacylover - your hating on me because your defending your addiction to this stuff. you admitted couple months ago that you really wanted to stop and now your still here trying to justify your use. I don't remember exactly what your opinion was on the meta-programming/tuning stuff people were posted but I think you were buying into it. This chemical may work as an rapid antidepressant, but its not going to help you if your doing it all the time. Certainly not going to metaprogram yourself into a better person or benefit long term. You will just develop an addiction and create delusions.
Someone named meowfish or explained his use of MXE a while back. Hes used a lot. He was pretty clear in his opinion that it has helped his get over other drug addictions. I don't think hes wrong in saying that, he probably was helped by MXE. However hes probably still using. If he was serious and wanted to quit while he was up he would stop. He may of quit more harmful drugs, but hes now just dependent on something else. I think he may of ceased use or cut back though, so good for him though. I mean no disrespect just giving my opinion on other people's posts.
As I said I don't mean disrepect. I mean to give my opinion and hopefully give you my advice which you can interpret in whatever way you like. I'm not better or smarter than anyone else.
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ecstacylover - your hating on me because your defending your addiction to this stuff. you admitted couple months ago that you really wanted to stop and now your still here trying to justify your use. I don't remember exactly what your opinion was on the meta-programming/tuning stuff people were posted but I think you were buying into it. This chemical may work as an rapid antidepressant, but its not going to help you if your doing it all the time. Certainly not going to metaprogram yourself into a better person or benefit long term. You will just develop an addiction and create delusions.
Someone named meowfish or explained his use of MXE a while back. Hes used a lot. He was pretty clear in his opinion that it has helped his get over other drug addictions. I don't think hes wrong in saying that, he probably was helped by MXE. However hes probably still using. If he was serious and wanted to quit while he was up he would stop. He may of quit more harmful drugs, but hes now just dependent on something else. I think he may of ceased use or cut back though, so good for him though. I mean no disrespect just giving my opinion on other people's posts.
As I said I don't mean disrepect. I mean to give my opinion and hopefully give you my advice which you can interpret in whatever way you like. I'm not better or smarter than anyone else.
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I just don't see why your saying everyone's an addict like you know them. That's kinda delusional and narcissistic... You don't know me and you don't know them. You only know what you've read. Yeah some people are out there but that's them. Shit if you put some MXE in front of me I'd surely put in into my muscle but I don't have too. I may have probably blown through 50 or more grams of MXE over about five or so years(may be less, who knows!) but I haven't done any in months. I'll probably gran some more sometime but I may not. IDK, but you seem too, so I guess I should probably follow your lead master! I think this last post was defintely better but you shouldn't go around telling people their addicts or delusional just because your not like them, that's messed up, and not very nice!
I think this last post was defintely better but you shouldn't go around telling people their addicts or delusional just because your not like them, that's messed up, and not very nice!
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Plus, many of us have no problem regulating our use. 8)
It just so happens that a lot of daily users post in here about their experiences. That doesn't mean all of us use that often. I use on average once every two weeks, and I haven't encountered any issues with doing so.
It just so happens that a lot of daily users post in here about their experiences. That doesn't mean all of us use that often. I use on average once every two weeks, and I haven't encountered any issues with doing so.
Help!? - I never said anything towards you
I said a handful of people have addictions on this thread and they should realize it. The two people that attacked my post that I called out have been on these threads forever posting about how often they use and how its helping them ect. They are giving other people bad advice by saying its helpful. Even though I bet only a few dozen people even read their posts. Its really a waste of my time to even bother posting here and maybe I shouldn't of in the first place.
I remember when Vaya posted a long time ago about how MXE affected him/her really negatively. That was during the time I was starting to enjoy them. I wish I took his/her post seriously at the time instead of continuing to use.
If you can do dissociatives twice a week..good for you. I feel most people who have it around and actually enjoy it will not. I bet most people here use a lot more often than that or have at some point. Help!? if you been through 50g mxe, then I think you've probly had an addiction as well. I mean if you guys really like these substances and think they are not prone to abuse, then maybe you should recommend chipping opiates to others. Hell, go write a book about it for 10 hours a day and how much better its made your life.
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I said a handful of people have addictions on this thread and they should realize it. The two people that attacked my post that I called out have been on these threads forever posting about how often they use and how its helping them ect. They are giving other people bad advice by saying its helpful. Even though I bet only a few dozen people even read their posts. Its really a waste of my time to even bother posting here and maybe I shouldn't of in the first place.
I remember when Vaya posted a long time ago about how MXE affected him/her really negatively. That was during the time I was starting to enjoy them. I wish I took his/her post seriously at the time instead of continuing to use.
If you can do dissociatives twice a week..good for you. I feel most people who have it around and actually enjoy it will not. I bet most people here use a lot more often than that or have at some point. Help!? if you been through 50g mxe, then I think you've probly had an addiction as well. I mean if you guys really like these substances and think they are not prone to abuse, then maybe you should recommend chipping opiates to others. Hell, go write a book about it for 10 hours a day and how much better its made your life.
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I really have NO REASON to just come on a thread and post negative things about a drug other than try to help others. People here seem to think I'm just coming here to ruin your good times? If I'm spreading bullshit, then just don't take it seriously. Trust me I don't take your posts seriously. I don't plan on metaprogramming or tuning myself anytime soon. LMAO
Don't take my posts to heart then and help yourself when you may find yourself wanting to quit
Don't take my posts to heart then and help yourself when you may find yourself wanting to quit
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so what , you just sober up and suddenly you figure it all out? cause i haven't touched mxe in two weeks. went through 10 gs in a month , dropped it cold turkey. getting more really hasnt even really crossed my mind, i dont have to have it, but best believe when i decide to get more im gonna enjoy it.
i had some problems awhile back but looking back i cant really attribute them to mxe. i was really down in the dumps about life and i was using mxe to escape it. if it wasnt mxe, it wouldve been alcohol or weed or something else. 'buying' into the tuning stuff? its not something you buy into. its out there yanno, you can go experience it yourself and decide for yourself. for me, my experience with mxe has been really similar to what vortech describes.
in case you haven't realized yet pretty much everyone is addicted to something (alcohol, weed, heroin, meth, videogames, sex, porn, working, religion, etc. ) -- that's called life. if there weren't things out there good enough to be addicting then life would be boring as shit.
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