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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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Jamshyd and B9, were you ever heavy opiate users?

I'm wondering if the slight opioid action is more noticeable to those who may have had opioid abuse in their history. Kind of like a balancing effect, with the combination of the other actions of the drugs, leading to this mystical and blissful state.

Yes I was for many years :|
 
At least myself I haven't been an opiate addict for my whole life.

A traumatic explosion event when I was 15, with lots of needles put on (mostly)wrong places around me plus a morphine dose against "pain" which I didn't ask for put me on a horror trip. This event somehow put me away from needles and opiates for a long time (might have been my luck during my drug career which was mostly psychedelics/spiritual driven.
 
it is very easy to remember we are the universe after snorting some of this. As usual the ones who most needed (politicians and other control freaks) won't use it?<3

+1 on this.
It really got me thinking about how complicated and fucked up we make this world we live in, when all we really need to do is just all agree we want it to be better.
Greed and selfishness always ruins everything, why can't people see that? It's so fucking obvious.
 
It is true that we just have to agree about how to improve the world. But it is very difficult to reach such an agreement, in part because we always express our visions through the filter of our self, and also in part because some of us think is clever to have a plan 'b', just in case thing were actually different to our visions.

We should concentrate more on being happy; and in finding strategies that make as most people happy, instead of concentration of little individual or tribal gains.

Sorry for the off topic. I tried very recently, never tried ketamine before, and feel overwhelmed. Hopefully I'll find the strength to relate the experience soon.
 
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but maybe is the case that the vision of being a same entity experiencing itself from different bodies and points of view is, unlike ordinary experiences (what we all call "normal life") something we can all agree?
 
Jamshyd and B9, were you ever heavy opiate users?

I'm wondering if the slight opioid action is more noticeable to those who may have had opioid abuse in their history. Kind of like a balancing effect, with the combination of the other actions of the drugs, leading to this mystical and blissful state.

i used to abuse poppy tea and was on tramadol for a year. i can notice the opiod effects easily because i can tell the warm blanket feeling a mile away
 
Someone needs to do some work involving isomer isolation and reporting on the effects, immediately :d

I'm curious on which isomer the opioid effects are most prominent.
 
I took 25mg of this over about two hours last night. My final dose was about +1.30hrs. I had a pleasant but mild experience up to about +2.30hrs.

I went to bed at that point and to my surprise the experience became much more intense and profound. I was enveloped in an all consuming, textured, darkness. It looked as if I was enveloped in velvet. At the centre of my vision (eyes closed or open) was an eye that would either glow or go deepest black.

When I submitted to the feeling I felt as if I had no body and was merely consciousness, but it was very controllable. On K there is no chance for me of keeping a straight head but with this I could pull myself around if I wanted to.

Really very surprising and enjoyable. This last til about +3.30hrs and then I slept well.
 
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I've discovered that taking methoxetamine sublingually is a far more efficient ROA than snorting (I know IM is probably the way to go, but I don't really know how to do this).

I have a very low tolerance to dissociatives, but enjoy this at anything from 30-50mg snorted.. it's a long come up this way, gradually over 45 mins to peak.

However, last night I tried 35mg placed on my tongue and swished round with saliva for about a minute on recommendation of a friend - this had me peaking in 20-25 mins and it floored me, seriously seemed twice as potent as snorting a similar dose for me. Quite took me by surprise.. still enjoyable, but think I'll use less with that ROA in future as I prefer slightly milder effects from this.
 
Remember - this has an opoiod side, don't get too seduceced by the velvety feeling. Ketamine is bad enough of an an addictive drug, this can be more seductive. Keep use spaced far apart (couple of doses per weekend max) and be careful this doesn't take over other considerations in your life
 
the stuff i took made me feel messy , which i take dissociative to mean ,cant compare it to anything else as i never took ket or anything similar, it was a bit bleh in my opinion and like i said a bit messy, ie a bit like when ya come round at the dentists, thats te only thing i can compare it with,but i can see the appeal for some peeps, horses for courses..ps i smoked weed alongside , which felt good but probs addeed to the messiness

hey Ben:)

p.s .. i would like to add that the afterglow off this stuff is beautiful, i feel great today and if anything this shit feels very theraputic..yeh i would use this stuff as a monthly tonic and not as an aid to get wasted, and 50 mg gives ya head a good clear out , i was gonna take amt on monday after booking two days off work, fuck that , we just booked two days in blackpool for us and kids instead, also gonna address my dependance on weed as well, made me relize my priorties

I live in Blackpool lol.
 
2 dosis of 10mg each (snorted) sent me to the most marvellous visions and revelations. (Cried of happines etc) Now, because of that, I'm all worked out studying about the noosphere.

The most amazing day of "my life" is a huge understatement.
 
Play nicely with this stuff kids and you will find it gets into all those hard to reach places :)
 
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