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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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Would Methoxetamine be of use in opiate withdrawal? Just a thought seeing as everyone that uses it seems to get an opiate type high.

I`m toying with the idea of buying 100mg of this stuff.Some years back i used to love my Ket,but found it too scary unless i was on MDMA,i remember getting in from work once and railing about 300mg on it`s own,the 6 o`clock news was on and i thought that the news readers were watching me and that they knew what i was doing,they kept coming out with things that had hidden meanings only i could know,it freaked me so much that i had to get in bed and hide under the covers hoping it would all go away.

So seeing as i don`t do MDMA anymore,actually i don`t do anything at all except from oral steroids,would this Methoxetamine be something one could do say on a night in without getting freaked? Could it be used as a tonic to blow out the cobwebs? Or a relaxant? I`m used to opiates and this is what intrigues me about this compound.
 
Phoenix_rising said:
Would Methoxetamine be of use in opiate withdrawal? Just a thought seeing as everyone that uses it seems to get an opiate type high.

I`m toying with the idea of buying 100mg of this stuff.Some years back i used to love my Ket,but found it too scary unless i was on MDMA,i remember getting in from work once and railing about 300mg on it`s own,the 6 o`clock news was on and i thought that the news readers were watching me and that they knew what i was doing,they kept coming out with things that had hidden meanings only i could know,it freaked me so much that i had to get in bed and hide under the covers hoping it would all go away.

So seeing as i don`t do MDMA anymore,actually i don`t do anything at all except from oral steroids,would this Methoxetamine be something one could do say on a night in without getting freaked? Could it be used as a tonic to blow out the cobwebs? Or a relaxant? I`m used to opiates and this is what intrigues me about this compound.
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Dissasociatives are great tools for opiate withdrawl. They lower your tolerance while supressing physical discomfort and can sometimes help with cravings.

Ket and DXM have proven this time and time again. My girlfriend is an 8 year opiate addict and 4-MeO-PCP and Ketmaine have been invaluable for her.
 
This is not a typical dissociative.

It has more affinity for the opioid system than any others currently tested (it IS an opioid as well as being a dissociative). Concerns that it, in fact, may cause an opioid addiction in and of itself are not unfounded.
 
Thanks Jamshyd.So is it like being high on morphine with a touch of Ket sparkle?

I suppose one way for me to find out is to try it.

So maybe this has some potential for being used legitimately for pain relief.
 
I know people have IM`ed this stuff and had good results as well as railing,but has anyone plugged it yet? If so what were the results?
 
I have never tried morphine or ketamine, very difficult to describe.
Touch of lsd, hint of ecstasy, dmt afterglow.
Very powerful.
I just don't know.
 
I just don`t know sounds a lot like Ketamine :D But then this is a Ketamine analogue so this is to be expected.
 
^ Both of my experiments described earlier in this thread are plugged, as I didn't have micron filters at the time I was playing with it.

And as a Ketamine-lover, I'd say it is very, very unlike K. More like a heavily-intoxicating opiate than anything, really.
 
Jamshyd said:
This is not a typical dissociative.

It has more affinity for the opioid system than any others currently tested (it IS an opioid as well as being a dissociative). Concerns that it, in fact, may cause an opioid addiction in and of itself are not unfounded.
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Good info, thanks.
 
I've been experimenting for three days with this (last time was Wednesday night, two nights ago), snorting 10mg lines at a time, a total of 30mg the first day, 70mg the second day and 40mg the third day.
My main purpose was to use it as anti-addiction medicine, as I had developed a kratom addiction (5-6 months, maybe more), which was turning slightly inconvenient. Has been a success (I haven drunk kratom for the last 5 days, and it really made a difference eliminating all withdrawal pain), but, also, I found what I like to call the "beehive", with which I mean what Carl G. Jung used to called the "collective unconscious", Carlos Castaneda "el Nagual" and others might name "heaven", "bardo", "noosphere", "k-hole", etc.

As John Lilly wrote in his book about ketamine experiments inside the floatation tank: ""The centre of the cyclone is that rising quiet central low-pressure place in which one can learn to live eternally. Just outside of this Centre is the rotating storm of one's own ego, competing with other egos in a furious high-velocity circular dance. As one leaves centre, the roar of rotating wind deafens on more and more as one joins this dance. One's centred thinking-feeling-being, one's own Satoris, are in the centre only, not outside. One's pushed-pulled driven states, one's anti-Satori modes of functioning, one's self-created hells, are outside the centre. In the centre of the cyclone one is off the wheel of Karma, of life, rising to join the Creators of the Universe, the Creators of us.
Here we find that we have created Them who are Us."

I call it the beehive because in that place telepathy is a given, and it feels like we (the universe of collection of all that exist, including all possible past and future) are colourful ethereal balls of life floating and dancing and buzzing through each other and once that you can read the mind of the others, you realise that all of us just want a better way to love.

The nicest story, the one who passed through me like an infinite thread of glory, was the two primordial feminine and masculine archetypes. Not only all the infinite possible romantic stories of the whole universe, but also the relation with the mother who created us, the one that we have created.

Then, after relieving all my live, which is the eternal life of the whole multi-verses (or possible universes), I stood on two days ago, crying in bed thinking about my eternal love, the feminine principle, who was coming that night after work. How coul I forget love existed?
How can the universe be so infinitely magical and beautiful, beyond any possible expectation... bliss, or the most intensive cosmic orgasm, is just the lowest kind of pain (but sill pain.) -the absence of pain... it just is!

As Bill Hicks used to say "we are the imagination of ourselves". We are nothing, understood as infinite potency or possibilities, and we dream about a solid world like the one I'm perceiving while writing this. But when we look outside of the nothing, truly awake, we just are, we can see/feel/be with the beehive, the collective unconsciousness of the independents being we share consciousness with, the gods that we created (our creators) buzzing happily around.
 
Most important to me is, does this Methoxetamine give you the same, or comparable closed eye visuals at ketamine? Thats my gig. I love to IM ket at about 100~150mg at a time so I get the ultimate "movie" playing in my head with my eyes shut. Im not interested in the reports of a little 10mg insulfated here and there just to get a warm, different feeling. I will mix this Methoxetamine with bacteriostatic water, run it though a watman filter and IM it at about 30~40mg, as I read someone IM'd it at 25 and had a great time for 1.5hrs. Also, does anyone know if this was mixed with water, does it cook back out to it's powder like Ketamine does? Another question about the "opioid" effect. Does it give you consitpation like pain pills do?
 
also, we are preparing a huge party -the beehive is buzzing more than ever, but... they keep it secret the bastards!!! They told me that I can't see nothing before 2012 but... lol, I could read a bit on their minds that things are going better than expected (thanks mainly to internet) and the party will definitely be before 2012. I learned that from two days ago everyday will get better and better. We already pass the point of no return!!!

Of course, it could all just be a nice dream -it doesn't really matter a bit, to me.
 
Is the opiate activity strong enough to be concerned with respiratory depression at higher doses?
 
ive got 50mg of this stuff in my pocket. do you think i should snort the whole thing at once or do it in 2 x 25mg lines a couple of hours apart?
 
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