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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy DPT Thread - Part 3: So bright this light...

DPT with MXE or ketamine together is a truly awe inspiring trip to say the least. At high doses its righteously powerful and truly something everyone comfortable with combining and a bit of both should try. Just go read the trip reports and if your not drooling to try it...well than you may well be a more damaged psychonaut than most mentally. The imagery, the body high, the general highly euphoric feeling, truly second to none. So glad to see finally, after years of spouting off about this wonder, a pretty much full page of people testifying to its awesomeness. When I'm ever graced enough to get a decent supply of ket I always go hard, though I truthfully haven't had any since I started IM'ing as my more prominent ROA, so in a "sense"....it may be a bit easier to sustain...just a bit!;) So I won't supply doses for that one but as little as ten mgs MXE with twenty five DPT should be somewhat noticeable. Double that and for a novice user who isn't that hard headed you'll be headed for what I'd guess would be fairly medium terrortory. Double the MXE again and add ten to twenty mgs of DPT to that and you'll be in solid to strong waters. Add twenty more mgs of MXE with ten or twenty mgs of DPT and you'll definitely be feeling it strongly if not very strongly(pretty hard to estimate nasal DPT for me as for whatever reason it always didn't really do much for me even up to 120mgs whereas IM at sixty is pretty strong. My personal favorite dose is 120mgs MXE with around 80mgs DPT.

Personally I like the ketamine experience with DPT added and only ever got to try it twice. One thing that was easily clear to me, was that with ketamine, since in a sense for me anyways you need to let go if the added anesthesic effect is what elicits this isn't clear to me but with this addition it just seemed easier truly nosedive into the depths best. Don't get me wrong, it's not a huge difference or anything. I could easily run the streets like an MXEfied zombie probably higher than 150mgs IM but ketamine...? Hell no! As a note I've IM'd 150mgs of DPT at once on a solid dose of MXE with no troubles except a very powerful but fun trip.and never experienced any negativity during MXE/DPT excursions. I could be a bit of a hard head towards DPT though. It'd be weird since related compounds are just as potent and I follow the DPT IM guidelines for dosing(I just like to go high, especially with simple tryps). I've also never experienced any leg tremors on DPT either thank fuck! I don't get side effects as bad as some others tend to though for sure.... Oh and DiPT and MXE is fucking sweet as well, also surely worth traversing!

Sometimes I wonder what PCP and DPT would be like....!8o
 
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Do you remember what some doses for the ketamine + DPT combos that you found to go really well Help?

I've only done this combo once, and really liked it. It was very little K, about 10mg, with 60mg DPT. I would like to try 20mg ketamine with 80mg DPT, but really interested in dosages that other people have tried for this combo.
 
Help?!?! said:
DPT with MXE or ketamine together is a truly awe inspiring trip to say the least. At high doses its righteously powerful and truly something everyone comfortable with combining and a bit of both should try. Just go read the trip reports and if your not drooling to try it...well than you may well be a more damaged psychonaut than most mentally. The imagery, the body high, the general highly euphoric feeling, truly second to none. So glad to see finally, after years of spouting off about this wonder, a pretty much full page of people testifying to its awesomeness. When I'm ever graced enough to get a decent supply of ket I always go hard, though I truthfully haven't had any since I started IM'ing as my more prominent ROA, so in a "sense"....it may be a bit easier to sustain...just a bit!;) So I won't supply doses for that one but as little as ten mgs MXE with twenty five DPT should be somewhat noticeable. Double that and for a novice user who isn't that hard headed you'll be headed for what I'd guess would be fairly medium terrortory. Double the MXE again and add ten to twenty mgs of DPT to that and you'll be in solid to strong waters. Add twenty more mgs of MXE with ten or twenty mgs of DPT and you'll definitely be feeling it strongly if not very strongly(pretty hard to estimate nasal DPT for me as for whatever reason it always didn't really do much for me even up to 120mgs whereas IM at sixty is pretty strong. My personal favorite dose is 120mgs MXE with around 80mgs DPT.

Personally I like the ketamine experience with DPT added and only ever got to try it twice. One thing that was easily clear to me, was that with ketamine, since in a sense for me anyways you need to let go if the added anesthesic effect is what elicits this isn't clear to me but with this addition it just seemed easier truly nosedive into the depths best. Don't get me wrong, it's not a huge difference or anything. I could easily run the streets like an MXEfied zombie probably higher than 150mgs IM but ketamine...? Hell no! As a note I've IM'd 150mgs of DPT at once on a solid dose of MXE with no troubles except a very powerful but fun trip.and never experienced any negativity during MXE/DPT excursions. I could be a bit of a hard head towards DPT though. It'd be weird since related compounds are just as potent and I follow the DPT IM guidelines for dosing(I just like to go high, especially with simple tryps). I've also never experienced any leg tremors on DPT either thank fuck! I don't get side effects as bad as some others tend to though for sure.... Oh and DiPT and MXE is fucking sweet as well, also surely worth traversing!

Sometimes I wonder what PCP and DPT would be like....!8o
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I am wanting to aquire some ketamine soon. After reading a specific trip report on erowid years back, ketamine just seemed like something I would like to experiment much with. I think it would be better in some ways than mxe for combineing with psychs. I have only had 500mg ketamine so far, but it seems more straight up anasthetic (i sniffed the last 200-250mg or so on 6 dif. drug binge night and came too 2 hours later with one leg still laying off the not having moved a muscle or being able to recall shit), with less crazy manic thoughts. Like it would be easier to take, lay back, and just experience what there is to see without paranoid semi psychotic shit potentially happening.

I have never used needles, but IMing ketamine is very very tempting. I am just kinda scared popping that cherry would end up with very bad things happening one day. I'm not a big fan of sniffing stuff, especially if trying to meditate while tripping. Not being able to breathe does not work well with that.

I read a post somewhere by a poster named Nuke about making ketamine equipotent plugged to nasal (instead of equipotent to oral, which is a huge waste). I may have to dig that one up and give it a go.

I dunno, everytime I take DPT it is kinda scary. Like DPT is a bipolar crazy and you never know if you will get the beauty or the horror, or a lil bit of both. More than some chemicals, it seems to be an entity/spirit of its own. A spirit that I <3
 
I went through 1000mgs of dpt in 2010. I experienced the glory and the fear. I got to combine it with ketamine on several occasions.

Dpt remains as one of the most worthwhile and challenging materials I have ever tried. i would love to try it again someday.

My experiences on it range from orgasmic bliss to alienating terror and body load, but regardless I was always curious to go back for more.

(Sorry I difnt finish that post. I guess I fell asleep mid post last night)
 
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Fuck I love dpt. I get the distinct impression its the female to DMT's male.

So terrifyingly beautiful. Love love love
 
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Fuck I love dpt. I get the distinct impression its the female to DMT's male.
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Hmm, weird as I can never think of DMT as anything but female. With DMT, I always see this goddess-jester entity: usually laughing her ass off at my expense. Still haven't gone far enough with DPT to see who's behind the curtain. :)
 
Jung believed anima development has four distinct levels, which he named Eve, Helen, Mary and Sophia.
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Interesting, so Sophia would be like a ++++?

The fourth and final phase of anima development is Sophia, named after the Greek word for wisdom. Complete integration has now occurred, which allows women to be seen and related to as particular individuals who possess both positive and negative qualities. The most important aspect of this final level is that, as the personification "Wisdom" suggests, the anima is now developed enough that no single object can fully and permanently contain the images to which it is related.
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Sounds like it, doesn't it? =D (Not dissing Jung, love the guy)

I'm intrigued by this thread and DPT and haven't tried it or his female counterpart yet but want to give them both a try. DMT is shorter in duration right? DPT less intense? Which one would you recommend first?
 
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Is vaped DPT similar to vaped DMT?

It seems from what I've gathered DPT seems to giev more hectic/scary/hellish trips than DMT
 
they're pretty different substances. DPT isnt really similar to DMT at all from my experiences.
Never felt scary to me either. May just be me, but i find DPT somehow soothing and almost sedating in a way that DMT isn't.
Very different experiences, for me.
 
I'm planning my next DPT trip soon but I don't know what music I want to play during it. Basically music is my lifeline during the experience it is more powerful than anything else, it creates the experience and the space and the air and waves. Last time I listened to Erothyme's Circadia alb and it was ineffibly fantastic, an offering of the gods.
 
I get flanging effects on sound with dpt. I always go for music that this works with; ie completely different music to other psychedelics.
 
Have the ability to buy some DPT. Want to use it via IM. The vendor have it as : HLC Dark brown powder (97% purity). Is this purity really low for safely using it? How it can affect the trip?
Does anyone have the experience with similar purity powder?
 
Well, you really shouldn't trust vendors claims of purity. For what it's worth H users routinely inject things that are 30% pure on the luckiest (and possible last) day of their lives.
If your going to IM read up on how to do it properly and get good filters. Start low.
 
Yeah but heroin users mostly IV, they dont IM. With intramuscular injections there is a lot less tolerance for crap in your drugs, because in the flowing blood there is much quicker neutralization (well it does depend what the crap is)... in the muscle, some things can sit there and fester. Mostly biologically contaminated drugs are a problem leading to abscess, or insolubles are a problem because they are sitting in your muscular tissue, for example damaging it or causing nasty bodily reactions in there.
Although of course if you IV bad enough stuff it will really ruin your veins, and if you do inject bacteria etc you can develop things like endocarditis or other inflammations in the cardiovascular system and then you are more royally screwed than with an IM abscess.

Fine enough wheel filters can handle both insolubles and bacteria / fungi. I strictly IM with wheel filtered drugs. For IM that should solve a lot of potential problems but is not a guarantee I guess.

DPT is discolored rather often, and even small quantities of impurities can account for the color... so not that great of an indicator either way. It's rather unlikely that the impurities are psychoactive, especially at higher potency than DPT, for them to matter in that way. So that is probably the good news.

That said, I am not really sure if I would take my chances injecting questionable compounds IM (never IVed anything) - I have injected a few compounds IM including tryptamines... and with dissociative addiction I even did sketchy things in terms of safety, but all of that really freaks me out because like I said, with IM you cannot really afford much.
 
I tried this compound yesterday at 36mg insufflated which is supposed to feel like a very low dose.
Didn't read any of the thread as I wanted a free of suggestion experience.

First of all I noticed how much it hurt, nose was bearable but the throat was painful as nothing I ever sniff. Didn't get rid of this untill the end of the experience.
In a few minutes started to feel the effects. Cannot say they were really strong but they were definetely not weak. And if I had to describe them what it came to mind it was: This is a really strange animal.

To my despair of having this strangely unconfortable effect plus no visuals whatsoever( I don't get visuals with nothing lately which is annoying). I had really weird thoughts, thoughts that I didn't want to have, I don't even remember what they were, something kind of superficial, though I remember well my dissapointment at having them.
And ya, don't forget the tremor of the upper legs. Some kind of energy out of control that cause some kind of excitement and even erections, and strong unconfortability.

Not long after, the effects dissapeared suddenly and my clock said it was 2 hours after the start. It seemed much shorter than that which is surprising as I didn't have a good time at all, and psyquedelics usually stretch time to me.
The afterglow was quality as a hunter might feel after going to a hard hunt in a storm.

Conclusion: Didn't learn anything at least at a conscious level. The only thing I might have learnt is that an scrath from a tiger, however small, it is still an scrath from a tiger.
Next times I might try different ROA to see if I can get less bodyload. Maybe smoking with its shorter duration might be best way to introduce myself to it. Though smoking DMT is not my cup of tea. And I'm gonna start reading the thread to get contaminated with suggestions which hopefully will improve my next experiences.
 
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