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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy DPT Thread - Part 3: So bright this light...

^ totally agree, the HCl is nasty on the lungs, freebase feels much kinder. It's extremely easy to convert HCl to freebase (using baking soda method), so anyone wanting to vape DPT should be encouraged to freebase it.

Still weirds me out though, and I don't love the ROA - the taste and this gut instinct that DPT vapour is unhealthy on my lungs makes me choose to sniff it instead.
 
How stable is the hcl? I bought a gram last year and was gifted a gram this year. The two look exactly the same and 50mgs of the older batch mixed with some mxe seemed pretty damn potent. Is it safe to assume the hcl is pretty stable?
 
It's pretty stable as far as I know. I've had some for over a year at room temp and it maintained its potency. I recently just stuck it in the freezer though because I don't plan on utilizing it any time in the near future.
 
Yes it seems quite stable, I've had some hcl at room temp for a year in a baggie (as an experiment) and no apparent loss of potency. 12mg of this seemed just as strong as a year earlier.

I thought I posted on this earlier but I guess it didn't work.
 
Has anyone tried this orally? Ive read that that route requires quite a bit more (200-400mg) but lasts like 12 hours?

Id be more interested in that route seeing as the nasal route seems rather painful.....and to vape it i would have to convert it to freebase.....
 
Peacephrog1972 said:
Has anyone tried this orally? Ive read that that route requires quite a bit more (200-400mg) but lasts like 12 hours?

Id be more interested in that route seeing as the nasal route seems rather painful.....and to vape it i would have to convert it to freebase.....
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No exp with oral, but you do seem to need a lot more. Plugging it works wonderfully though at about the same dose as insulfated.
 
Peacephrog1972 said:
Has anyone tried this orally? Ive read that that route requires quite a bit more (200-400mg) but lasts like 12 hours?

Id be more interested in that route seeing as the nasal route seems rather painful.....and to vape it i would have to convert it to freebase.....
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I tried 200mg orally on Bicycle Day. It didn't last any longer than 3 hours. The experience was sub-breakthrough.
 
based on the dumb DPT overdose i had earlier this year (was on a bunch of DXM and misread my scale, thought the pile looked so big because of dissociative-induced size/perception distortions), it being a K-opiod agonist does not surprise me.

dose was probably like 250mg-300mg or so, insufflated, btw.

lack of 5HT-3 binding surprises me, though, because DPT usually does make me pretty nauseous, even at appropriate sized dosages.
 
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^^ I would be hesitant to trust that chart immediately. The video it came from explicitly said that it was only binding data, not proof of activity. It also said it came from the PDSP, but that data is directly contradicted by DPT PDSP binding data that was released publicly the same year, a link to which can be found at the bottom of this study. Just looking back and forth between them, everything looks to be pretty much the same except for the fact that the raw data shows that DPT has activity at D2 (absent from the above chart) but not at kappa-opioid receptors. Granted, the study didn't account for anything >10,000 nM affinity, and DPT's 5-HT2A affinity is already 2,579 nM, so technically, just being above 10,000 doesn't necessarily mean that it can't be reached by what would be considered normal doses of DPT if you need to go over a quarter of that just to get psychedelic effects at all, but the fact that the data suggests that it would be more active at least at D2 than kappa-opioid receptors, whereas that chart suggests the exact opposite, kind of at least calls some things into question if you ask me. My guess would be that whoever made that chart was just making a more easily understandable representation of that exact data and flubbed a couple of things....
 
That is nice lol. I don't mean to suggest that the whole chart is not trustworthy by the way, I would just question the kappa-opioid thing.... Everything else matches up nicely to the raw data they've provided. Probably just a slip up?
 
The night watch.....do you have trip report anywhere for that"overdose"? I'd be interested in hearing about it!
 
So... Is dpt TOO intense. Or would you recommend it to the majority of drug users who haven't tried it. I read it can give you convulsions .
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If you like psychedelics, this is the queen bee. Some trips are almost generic psychedelia. Other take tangents in the psychedelic headspace that are so genuinely unique that no psych can compare. I swear. That trip where I stared into the mirror on DPT is the most mind blowing I've ever had. I was tuned into a firehose of information so otherworldly yet so personal it left me in true awe. For days. I don't know anything about convulsions on DPT, but this one time my breathing got really rhythmic and intense and I seemed I couldn't stop. I got strangely lightheaded and felt I was going to faint. Kept breathing the same rhythm until there was just a sliver of perception left at the very top of my head, the rest of me felt like it was submerged in an infinite blackness. I struggled to maintain that sliver of awareness while the rest of me was in nothingness. It was terror and resignation. Felt like I was fighting for my life though no harm would come to me. There's better psychs for starters, but this is a psych of true potentiality that affecionados will seek out.
 
Peacephrog1972 said:
The night watch.....do you have trip report anywhere for that"overdose"? I'd be interested in hearing about it!
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took a sec to find, here's what i wrote about it in the PD Social:

thenightwatch said:
i had such a strange trip sunday night...

dosed two bottles of robitussin gel caps (600mg total)... then while i was pretty zonked out i decided to break into my DPT... but i must have been reading my scale wrong in my dissociated state, and i ended up weighing out 250mg instead of 25mg. the pile of powder did look rather large but i attributed the size distortion to my DXM intoxication...

i'm not even sure if i made it back to the couch. i went into this strange waking dream state. i was somehow approaching the limit of infinity. and as i kept getting myself infinitesimally closer to the ultimate singularity i kept realizing that it was possible to get even closer to it. ultimately i never reached it, of course... and the whole time tho the entire situation kept being explained to me as live action metaphors to things that happen at my work. in a way my search for the ultimate singularity was a pointless struggle, and the struggle was having dysphoric effects on me. eventually, with the help of entities that were speaking to me through the form of my coworkers, i decided "fuck it, just go with it." at which point the hazy visual soup i had been experiencing turned into beautiful, distinct fractal geometry. i spent an indeterminate amount of time after that just awash in the visuals and in euphoria. eventually i came to laying on my living room floor next to a pile of vomit. carpet burns on my ankles.

it was one of the most bizarre trips i've ever had. definitely the furthest out i've gone with a tryptamine. but at the same time wow i was incredibly stupid. i think i may have had a seizure, and there was a chance i could have asphyxiated in my own vomit in that state.

fucking scary. and it took a huge physical toll on my body. i feel like i got hit by a bus still, three days later.
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thenightwatch said:
so i've been remembering more details about this trip over these weeks after it. two things i didn't mention in this post^:

1. there were messianic overtones during the most intense part of the trip. it felt like some major change was happening and through that change i was becoming the next messiah. i of course don't take those thoughts too seriously after the fact -- it is easily attributable to classic psychedelic delusions of grandeur. and besides, its not the first time i've thought i was jesus on a trip. =p

more long-term significantly, though---- 2. when i was approaching eternity, it felt like i was trying to solve a puzzle. and every time i got closer to eternity, i realize that eternity is not only the problem but the solution. like a question answer pair -- "eternity? eternity." eternity is both the poison and the cure. the source of all suffering and the source of all joy. it was when i realize the duality of eternity that i entered that bliss state.
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whynaught said:
So... Is dpt TOO intense. Or would you recommend it to the majority of drug users who haven't tried it. I read it can give you convulsions .
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large doses can be extremely intense. low doses (sub 20mg) can actually be pretty relaxing.
 
def not too intense actually can be very enjoyable. I will say it is hit or miss though I've had experiences that remind me of LSD jus shorter duration and had tremors for an hour then felt great or jus no more than mild even at high doses tolerance and ssri/snri use can dampen the trip so who knows i was on trazodone for awhile and that is a 5ht2a antagonist so maybe too much left in system
 
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