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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy DPT Thread - Part 3: So bright this light...

could anyone tell me the best way to IM a psychedelic? im an expert at iv but never tried im DPT sucks to insufflate and i dont really want to stick it up my ass so im seems logical where and how deep?
 
Plugging is easy as shit, man. I would definitely not recommend trying to inject if you've never done it before, there's so many more risks for complications than plugging.
 
Had some come thru town awhile back, lasts longer than DMT with few visuals. Also seems to make you really shaky after smoking, would prefer reals deems anyday.
 
the pink jungle said:
could anyone tell me the best way to IM a psychedelic? im an expert at iv but never tried im DPT sucks to insufflate and i dont really want to stick it up my ass so im seems logical where and how deep?
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Aren't psychedelics supposed to make you more open-minded and loosen associations? Plug it dude, easy as cake, hits harder, the come up will quicker.
 
DPT is awesome stuff. I've had about 10 experiences with it. My only complaint is the fucking drip - it literally smells/tastes like shit. I am NEVER snorting it again.
 
Goddess Mode said:
^^ I would be hesitant to trust that chart immediately. The video it came from explicitly said that it was only binding data, not proof of activity. It also said it came from the PDSP, but that data is directly contradicted by DPT PDSP binding data that was released publicly the same year, a link to which can be found at the bottom of this study. Just looking back and forth between them, everything looks to be pretty much the same except for the fact that the raw data shows that DPT has activity at D2 (absent from the above chart) but not at kappa-opioid receptors.
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Hmmm, I always thought DPT had something that reminded me of Salvia just a little. I know the chart and data are in question, but it has crossed my mind and I could not put my finger on it. So that part stuck out for me. It is similar to how mescaline reminds me of MDMA a bit.

Who knows, it is interesting though to see what buttons these substances are pushing in the brain, and then the mind.
 
DPT is probably the dirtiest psychedelic I've ever taken (besides morning glory seeds), this shit just feels gross & wrong...while I never freaked out any of the times I used it or even felt explicitly "bad", the trip is just really awkward, the body load, headspace, even the visuals are just...not right, ugly even. The kappa opioid receptor thing makes a lot of sense to me, DPT shares some of the delirious & physically discomforting aspects of salvia, although salvia's much more vile. Based on what I've read about the Temple of the True Inner Light, it makes a lot of sense that this would be the psychedelic they use as a sacrament, because that churches ideology sure as hell doesn't match up with the vibes of any of the good psychedelics, not even close...
 
DPT is my favorite psychedelic. There is even a religion that uses it as their sacrament, and I don't think they could have chosen anything much better myself.
I read in Tihkal that it is a lot more like 5-meo-dmt when used orally. They did not seem to like that, but I think I will!

I'll let everyone know what I think about oral vs. nasal/plugged/IM'd/IV'd after I try it. A long time ago, I IV'd 70mg of the stuff. But I do not intend to IV it in the future.


Hey, psilocybin-dream, it seems like we have much different tastes in psychedelics. DPT and Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds were the best ones for me, but DPT doesn't make me feel sick. And I love salvia too!
 
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That's funny haha, well it's a good thing there are so many different psychedelics & other hallucinogens so everyone can find their niche! I personally tend to prefer things to be ecstatic/stimulating (actually not into empathogens though, just "full" psychedelics), DOC & LSD are perfect for my tastes. DPT's headspace was kind of similar to LSD some of the times I did it I remember, but less "light", less beautiful & positive.
 
Recently experimented with both IM and IV ROAs, 30mg IM, 20mg IV. Didn't experience the tremors, where I did feel them on 40mg intranasal. But to be fair the both of those trips were less intense overall than the 40mg intranasal, so I can't say for sure if the direct ROAs reduce the tremors. The best way though IME to make the experience more comfortable and amplify the trip is to combine with MXE (I bet Ketamine would work great too, but the cool thing with MXE is that it has the same duration as DPT).
 
Anybody tried combining with DXM? I really want to try it with a dissociative, but I don't know if DXM would be safe to mix with DPT. But DXM gives me these interesting visuals like flying over mountains covered in forests and screens full of mathematical formulas and data tables that float across my field of vision.

Maybe I'll just get some MXP or 3-meo-pcp to mix with it. I'd get MXE, but I don't have any good sources for that. At least none I have tried, and I don't want to lose my money since I don't have much to begin with. 3-meo-pcp is probably better than MXP, it was as good or better than MXE so that might be a better choice of dissociative than MXP.

psilocybin-dream said:
That's funny haha, well it's a good thing there are so many different psychedelics & other hallucinogens so everyone can find their niche! I personally tend to prefer things to be ecstatic/stimulating (actually not into empathogens though, just "full" psychedelics), DOC & LSD are perfect for my tastes. DPT's headspace was kind of similar to LSD some of the times I did it I remember, but less "light", less beautiful & positive.
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You are right. Alexander Shulgin was like the god of psychedelic drug design, so many things any tripper can find things they love. DOC and LSD are a couple of my favorites too. But for me, DPT is better. But it seems to have a pretty wide range of effects depending on the person. I'd love me some psilocybin/mushrooms though. Been so long...
 
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vortech said:
Recently experimented with both IM and IV ROAs, 30mg IM, 20mg IV. Didn't experience the tremors, where I did feel them on 40mg intranasal. But to be fair the both of those trips were less intense overall than the 40mg intranasal, so I can't say for sure if the direct ROAs reduce the tremors. The best way though IME to make the experience more comfortable and amplify the trip is to combine with MXE (I bet Ketamine would work great too, but the cool thing with MXE is that it has the same duration as DPT).
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My favourite DPT trip so far was when I combined 60mg with a tiny amount of ketamine. I don't particularly trust or enjoy ketamine on it's own, but just a little bit mixed in with the DPT was really good for dissipating the negative physical effects of DPT. I forgot to take a note of how much I used, but it was about 6-10mg ketamine if I remember correctly - subthreshold. It seemed just right for not colouring the trip with K much at all, but still removing the bad parts of DPT.
 
Tryptamine*Dreamer said:
Anybody tried combining with DXM? I really want to try it with a dissociative, but I don't know if DXM would be safe to mix with DPT. But DXM gives me these interesting visuals like flying over mountains covered in forests and screens full of mathematical formulas and data tables that float across my field of vision.

Maybe I'll just get some MXP or 3-meo-pcp to mix with it. I'd get MXE, but I don't have any good sources for that. At least none I have tried, and I don't want to lose my money since I don't have much to begin with. 3-meo-pcp is probably better than MXP, it was as good or better than MXE so that might be a better choice of dissociative than MXP.
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i've combined it with DXM and with 3-MeO-PCP. both felt safe, but combining it with DXM was the more enjoyable of the two combos. MXE + DPT being even more enjoyable than either of those two.

i can't remember if i ever combined DPT with MXP. i had both at the same time. seems like i did? but i really don't remember. wasn't overly noteworthy if i did, but then MXP never really did much for me.
 
To add to the dissociatives + DPT discussion:

I've only tried DPT once, and I was very nervous about it (surprise surprise). To alleviate some of the pre-flight jitters, I snorted around 25mg MXE. As someone who is very experienced with the chem, that was just enough to make me feel less anxious. I am interested what a larger dose of MXE would be like in combo with DPT :::)
 
I've also combined MXE and DPT. I don't recall the doses, however it seems that it was a low dose of DPT insufflated and a higher dose maybe 50mg or so of MXE. I ended up pretty sedated and just laying in bed for the trip. Highly realistic but very dream like visions if I can recall. Like a psychedelic breakthrough but too sedated to fully grasp the visions and meanings, so it was more like a dream. Kind of surprising how sedating it was because neither of them on their own are sedating. Maybe I had been drinking too or something, I don't recall though since it was over a year ago.
 
MXE and DPT go very well together. in general for me i preferred a larger relative dose of MXE with a medium sized dose of DPT added. you want more MXE than DPT to smooth out the rough physical jitters DPT gives.
 
This guy above me is right. I dosed 25mg mxe and 50-55mg dpt plugged Friday night. Spent a good bit of time meditating beforehand. Setting intention, which is something I have been neglecting before tripping recently. Lasted about ten minutes after plugging dpt before I felt too jittery and weird. Plugged another 30-40mg mxe, laid in bed, put on my go to trip music, and received exactly what I asked for.

And I can't remember any of it... Lol. Like literally as soon as the dpt starts winding down I already forgot everything. I think that was the point though. It was soul cleansing, reminding me shy I am here and how to be. Reminding the subconscious part of myself how to live a good life.

As soon as I felt it winding down though, I was like "divine mother I have one last thing to ask, something very important to me". At this point the Spotify AP I had running on a continuous loop stops playing, exactly as I ask this :-) As if to say, "hey I am paying full attention to you, so return the favor"

<3 dpt and mxe combo
 
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