☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy DOC Thread - Third opinion

[Achten]

Alright thanks !

Sounds riscy imo, DOC is already quite hard on the vasoconstriction.
Quite deadly at not super high doses.

I wouldnt mix it with anything outside of other psychedelics that are very safe or dissios like Ketamine (awesome combo btw).

Guess i'll add ALLAD and 2cb then. Ketamine i only do at home to come down with a movie or two

 

[Allylbenzene]

Did anyone ever try 2-3mg of DOC with 5mapb after lets say 6hours? Ideas ?

Shulgin reported the combination of a 5-HT2A agonist with α2-adrenergic & imidazoline-1 agonism to produce entactogenic effects. He used 2C-B-FLY with rilmenidine (reduces BP) but agmatine is a fair otc alternative with its own psychoactive properties (α2-adrenergic & imidazoline-1 agonist, NMDA antagonist, sigma-1 agonist).

Sounds riscy imo, DOC is already quite hard on the vasoconstriction.

With these vasoconstrictors its probably a good idea to have niacin (nicotinic acid) on hand. It's a fairly potent fast acting vasodilator.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Shulgin reported the combination of a 5-HT2A agonist with α2-adrenergic & imidazoline-1 agonism to produce entactogenic effects. He used 2C-B-FLY with rilmenidine (reduces BP) but agmatine is a fair otc alternative with its own psychoactive properties (α2-adrenergic & imidazoline-1 agonist, NMDA antagonist, sigma-1 agonist).


With these vasoconstors its probably a good idea to have niacin (nicotinic acid) on hand. It's a fairly potent fast acting vasodilator.

Could probably help, ive nvr felt it being a huge issue at the doses ive done though.
I beleive ive done up to 3.5mg of DOC.

But you def feel it in a different way compared to lets say LSD.

 

[Leprechaun]

I was just thinking of using this as a low dose smart drug. Anyone had experience with 0.5mg-0.75mg dose range?

 

[iom]

No, but 0.25 mg was enough for significant psychedelic-flavored stimulant effect which lasted all day and made sleep difficult. I would suggest starting there or even less if you don't want effects that are overly distracting.

 

[Achten]

No, but 0.25 mg was enough for significant psychedelic-flavored stimulant effect which lasted all day and made sleep difficult. I would suggest starting there or even less if you don't want effects that are overly distracting.

I can vouch that 0,12 is enough as a microdose. Anything above is as described above.

 

[Achten]

I was just thinking of using this as a low dose smart drug. Anyone had experience with 0.5mg-0.75mg dose range?

I love up to 0,5mg for a very casual social gathering, but i wouldn't want to be in a place where i have to be concentrating.

 

[Leprechaun]

No, but 0.25 mg was enough for significant psychedelic-flavored stimulant effect which lasted all day and made sleep difficult. I would suggest starting there or even less if you don't want effects that are overly distracting.

Excellent, thanks for the suggestions.

I just recently did a 0.375mg DOB experience, started it at 4am, was essentially already out by 4pm. Excellent all round experience and easily repeatable. Something for any occasion. No trouble sleeping and felt very satisfied at the end.

I'll do 0.375mg DOC to start. I'll do a series of tests on both and report back via trip reports.