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Anyone use DOC for a microdose regimen?
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^ Nice seeing you around man.
I haven't, but I feel like it would mess to much with my sleep if I tried it.
I haven't, but I feel like it would mess to much with my sleep if I tried it.
cosmic charlie
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Well years ago i would sometimes take 350ugs of DOC at around 7am and it would work wonderfully as a day enhancer, make the world sparkle and give me a nice push of energy. Was deff a little more than a microdose tho, but since the dose wasnt that high and i took it very early in the day it didnt effect my sleep this way @Img_9999
Nonyascaline
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Bought some DOC pills off a popular DN vendor and the potency was very low/inconsistent. Took what was supposed to be 3mg and I was able to go to bed 8 hours after I took it. I think they are completely filler. :/
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I'm working with the same tablets and man, they honestly seem overdosed.
A couple nights ago I took 250mg of 2C-B (a dose I would only advise for people who've pushed 2C-B over 70-100mg a handful of times at least), alongside 2.25mg of DOB and 4mg of DOC. 2mg of DOC was oral, 2mg was intranasal.
Tonight I've decided to explore 2mg more DOC after taking 25mg of 2C-B, and I might add more DOC, DOB, 2C-B, 3-HO-PCP, NEP, or Tizanidine as the night progresses based on how things feel. Of the 2,4,5-Trisubstituted phenethylamines I've used 2C-B, DOB, DOM, DOC, 25I-NBOMe, 25B-NBOH, and 25C-NBOMe. They're easily one of my favorite classes of psychedelics, triply tied with lysergamides and 3,4,5-trisubstituted phenethylamines. Of those two families, I've used LSA, LSD, mescaline (as the acetate salt as well as straight peyote) and allylescaline. Tonight felt like a good night to further explore phenethylamines, as I got my Lophophora and Trichocereus plants back in soil and watered so I'm feeling the phenethylamine groove.
The tolerances on these are wacky, DOB doesn't seem to create much of one in the first place, DOM creates a light one like mescaline, 2C-B creates no tolerance at all though, nor does allylescaline. N-benzylated phenethylamines create insane tolerances though, often needing 3-4 weeks until I can feel a psychedelic, empathogen, amphetamine/methamphetamine, or other serotonin agonist or monoamine releaser of any monoamine really. I've noticed also that NBXX tolerance only forms after the come-down, if I'm still on an NBXX compound I can still take other psychedelics without any tolerance at all having been formed, and MDA mixed well with 25C-NBOMe. That's probably highly inadvisable from a health perspective but hey, it was a reckless move I made years ago and a random street xanny (probably bromazolam) was involved too, to help round things out. NBXX compounds feel so good though they lead me to problematically compulsively redose. 25C-NBOMe with some 2-FXE and 3-HO-PCP on top, add a little 25I-NBOMe and 2C-B, drop some acid at the end just to wrap the night up, that type of psychedelic binge shit is often kicked off by specifically N-benzylated phenethylamines in my experience.
Has anybody here run experiments with other DOs, 2Cs, NBXX compounds, and seen how their tolerances overlap? Also, do these induce DPT tolerance? If not I may add some DPT to the insufflation tray tonight, though it's currently a bit packed.
@Nonyascaline I'm only using a single one of those DOC tablets insufflated tonight to let you know how it goes, but I've insufflated only half of it already and it's already noticeably affecting me within maybe 10-15 minutes, which is shockingly fast for even intranasal DOM which tends to show first alerts ~45-60 minutes after dosing. If I find it boring later on I might add something else, idk I'll see how the night goes. I'm currently unemployed so I've just been producing music, applying to jobs and doing drugs like it's my fucking job.
Edit for @Nonyascaline: A single tablet of that, even with tolerance, was pretty assblasting. Maybe I'm just sensitive to DOC moreso than DOM (which I can easily take up to 45mg of) or DOB (3mg wasn't a big deal).
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Jeez, that's a crazy amount of 2c-b. I get slightly uncomfortable physical effects even with like 30-40mg. Is there a benefit you've found it taking such high doses?
There was a period where I did a lot of NBxx, and messed around with a bit of DPT around the same time.
Although I didn't put much thought into tolerance development, I didn't experience anything out of the normal, or any inability to trip on any of it, but I did do a lot of it at the time. I think yeah, either 25b-NBOH or 25b-NBOMe were my favorite out of that class, I went a little nutso with those, as did a lot of people around me at the time.
That reminds me... God I'd love some dpt lol that shit is the tits. Idk how people have dark experiences with it, its like being dipped into the glorious light of heaven or some shit. Has the strangest taste when you snort it too, it's like you've eaten some kind of new tofu lol.
I have such fond memories of DOC, it's really great stuff.
Yeah, but it's good to have a tripsitter to try to catch you when you fall. Taking doses of 2C-B this high will lead to a state where you seem just super geeked, but then you'll look at something and (according to my fiancee) my eyes will roll back in my head as I hit the floor cold. From my perspective it's a phenethylamine-y experience most reminiscent of a DMT breakthrough, uncontrollable unconsciousness, immeasurable euphoria, watching the family tree that led to me grow roots out of my shag carpet and form these peculiar 'ancestor' entities who communicate to me about what I should be doing to help them, instead of wasting my time on other shit. The biggest downside is the fact that taking a quarter gram of 2C-B involves involuntarily hitting the ground probably 30-45 separate times since I outweight my fiancee by 50-80 pounds, and even if he could catch me and hold me up, he probably shouldn't. Doses of 2C-B this high are more like DMT and ayahuasca than they are like other phenethylamines, even 70-100mg of 2C-B intranasally is incredibly similar. It just requires more orally. I've found similar points with DOM, allylescaline, mescaline, DOB, 25C-NBOMe, MDA, psilacetin (as well as fungi), miprocin, N,N-DiPT and LSD. They're all pretty strongly reminiscent of one-another, I suspect that whatever occurs when you saturate the fuck out of your serotonin receptors is probably pretty similar regardless of how you do it, you know?
What kinds of dosing and on what schedule were you guys using? I found that with 25C-NBOMe used weekly I had to go from 2.4 -> 3.6 -> 4.8 -> 6mg intervals to keep roughly the same experience, and often could not feel other drugs such as LSD or mushrooms for weeks after even an exposure of less than a single milligram. Vaporized DMT was exempt from this tolerance though, and I bet DPT is too. By the way, were you using DPT intranasally or orally?
GulpingBatteryLiquid
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If it's the same I'm thinking of, UK based, I've heard that his pills are very inconsistent, a lot are underdosed and a lot are overdosed. I don't think he's pressing them correctly
Split three of them last night with my fiancee, they're incredibly densely pressed. I weigh over a hundred kilos and I could barely break these apart smashing them with a metal block for fuck's sake. Three of them became fifteen sizeable lines of a powder that's specifically super fine and really difficult to insufflate without pulling too far and accidentally inhaling, people who've dealt with American pharma DP30 Adderall will know exactly what I'm talking about. Somehow despite us splitting the 15 lines between us, he was completely unaffected and I have remained profoundly fucking intoxicated.
Somehow taking 4.5mg (6x750ug tabs) of DOB afterwards didn't help the situation either. Funny why I thought it would.
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At what point does allylescaline get like that? I’ve tried like 20mg a few times which is admittedly not a lot but it seemed very mild, which people also generally agree with, along with nothing that effects generally reach a threshold.
I've only found allylescaline interesting when orally administered between 65-125mg, personally. I'm also super hard headed though. Pushed it up to 180 (100 then 80 a few hours later). It had me controllably losing consciousness, hitting the floor as I'd have mundane precognizant visions and shit.
Nonyascaline
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That's a bummer, for me, at least. I was really excited to try a DOx when I bought these and ended up with nothing. Went through all ten pills within two or three days trying to feel an effect to get nada. In fact that was my first post on bluelight lol
Nonyascaline
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I've pushed allylescaline myself to 100mg and it stays mild. For the accompanying physical side effects it's not worth it in high doses at all. However... it is great in doses 20-35mg for mixing with trypts and lsyergamides. LSD has a great combo.
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SsamuraiXtc
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ok yea i see the rolly aspect of this now....around 2 mg is where is starts to really bring that buzzy amphetamine mdma type jaw clenchy high....nice stuff cant wait to do again when i have the time haha
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