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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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I tried DOC for the first time tonight (its my first experience with any of the DOX compounds) and all I can say is WOW!!!!!!!

This compound is very odd indeed! It is by a wide margin the most visual compound i've ever tried, yet, despite the almost sensory-overload visual aspects, my mind is so very clear - I could easily program a computer or solve a complex technical problem in this state. Its really very odd how one aspect (the strength of the visuals) can combine with the super-enhanced level of clear headedness, compared to a day-to-day state.

This chemical reminds me greatly of 2C-P but feels far cleaner - almost like a refined version of 2C-P. A far higher Signal:Noise ratio it seems.
 
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clubberdude, going by the timestamps on your last two posts, I'm guessing you are 5-6 hours into your DOC experience. If that is the case, you may still have a long ride ahead of you, hopefully as rewarding as what you have reported so far.

I've read both good and bad things about the DOC body load. I'm curious what your dose amount was.
 
Yeah, I've put together a trip-report of such (rather the chronology of the chemical, as opposed to types of visuals etc).

I'll be posting it here when the experience has ended.

I did 4mg orally, and around 2-3mg nasally.
 
Xorkoth said:
Although of course there's no way to tell, it does sound like DOC. DOC reminds me greatly of LSD except it's got more of a strong, physical push which can be extremely euphoric. it lacks the nasty body load that other DOXs can have. At this point in time I actually prefer it to LSD, because LSD has yet to provide me with much, whereas I have had some incredible experience on DOC.

I'd listen to your boyfriend's opinions on the matter... he's a smart guy. ;)
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For the record, I have found DOC to have vastly stronger visual effects than LSD - where the visuals for me are relatively subtle. Also DOC is more euphoric - has a degree of unadulterated, carefree bliss than many of the tryptamines can be.

I'd have said that the visuals that I've got of DOC are very similar to the imagery seen in this video. Certainly seems to be in that order of complexity.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T19M9JQFERU
 
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Now that things have died down and people have gotten to experiment with this a few times is it worth stocking up on considering it's not often available but now is?
I'm considering getting a few doses and just having them stored in a vial for in the future - it's unlikely I'll dose often due to the long duration.

How is the chemical itself though? To be honest, I'm only really a fan of the standard psychedelics like LSD/Psilocybin because the likes of the 2Cs carry far too many side effects for what they are worth in comparison to say acid. Is this a good clean psychedelic like LSD with little side effects - I'm not comparing it to LSD visual/headspace wise, more so does it give bodyload, nausea, etc; for example 2c-e is definitely going to make me sick. I personally find RCs only really worthwhile if I can't get my hands on the standard textbook drugs, but this one has been around for a long time and sounds interesting.

Would I be better waiting for another DOx to come around? How does it fare in comparison to them?

- Few questions there, hope some people can answer, even just a single one.
 
There seems to be no consensus on that... for me and some others, DOC has one of the lightest body loads of any psych.

For others (see Jbrandon's trip report) they seem to find it absolutely physically exhausting. Not sure what the deal is, tbh.
 
I took 2.5mg of the purple-ish tinted DOC and experienced a pretty janky bodyload the entire time, it was absolutely exhausting. I couldn't find any benzos for a while and it was very taxing existing in that state. Finally a friend got me 3 ambien (only thing he could find) and those helped the body load for a few hours a piece but even with those I was worn very thin by the end of the trip. I've took a handful of the 2C's and enjoyed them all very much and could easily tolerate the bodyload but this stuff didn't agree with me at all. I was very excited for this one too :(
 
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I took 2.5mg of the purple-ish tinted DOC and experienced a pretty janky bodyload the entire time, it was absolutely exhausting. I couldn't find any benzos for a while and it was very taxing existing in that state. Finally a friend got me 3 ambien (only thing he could find) and those helped the body load for a few hours a piece but even with those I was worn very thin by the end of the trip. I've took a handful of the 2C's and enjoyed them all very much and could easily tolerate the bodyload but this stuff didn't agree with me at all. I was very excited for this one too :(
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As I said earlier it's quite strange that nearly all bad-bodyload-reports are from people working with the purple batch, maybe it's due to an impurity... It could be great if you could try again with the white batch.
 
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As I said earlier it's quite strange that nearly all bad-bodyload-reports are from people working with the purple batch, maybe it's due to an impurity... It could be great if you could try again with the white batch.
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or maybe the purple batch sold a lot more and is thus a lot more common
 
I also read someone say the purple batch is alot more potent... someone reported being flummoxed by just 1.5mg, plenty-o trippy effects, low bodyload. Perhaps the person who took 2.5mg did too much?
 
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I also read someone say the purple batch is alot more potent... someone reported being flummoxed by just 1.5mg, plenty-o trippy effects, low bodyload. Perhaps the person who took 2.5mg did too much?
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also a good point. if it is more potent for psychedelic effects then perhaps the side-effects will show up at lower dosages as well.
 
Body load isn't really any worse than that with 2C-P or LSD, but I noticed what might have felt like some mild vasoconstriction during the time I took it, but this may well have been imagined. I took 4mg orally, and insufflated a total of around 2-3 mg several hours later. The vasoconstriction feelings did not begin until a short while after insufflating the second dose. My heart rate was surprisingly low during the peak of the trip - within around 5 bpm of my typical resting heart rate. At these doses, whilst the visuals were very strong, I felt pretty in control throughout. In fact effects were milder than I expected from that dose, but may have been because I used MDMA the night before.

Next time i'll dose fully orally, as it seems potentially safer. There is absolutely no safety or toxicity parameters about DOC anywhere on the internet, so its best to start out carefully with this one.

My batch is the one with the purple tinge to it.
 
should have some on the way shortly and believe research will start at the 3mg point but I'm always needing to hold back my wish to do a strong/heavy dose due to my diverse tolerance issues

brains chemistry is a little funky to say the least

tolerance for LSD is not to be mentioned - its up there even after no dosing for years...

2-ct-2 was enjoyable at the 25mg range but nothing great

MDA won't do nadda unless over 500mg's is consumed

MDMA will rock the socks at 100mg

research is being continued at the 10-20mg range (insulfated) on 4-aco-dmt and soon to be hitting up 4-ho-met
 
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Well, in a stupid careless mix up I somehow had miscalculated how much i had put on, as in made a simple mathematical error while dosing with the syringe. looking back at the numbers and the intensity of the trip its clear i dosed about 13mg instead of 3-4 i had intended. i hadn't intended to dose it but i got irrationally nervous carrying the thins through security and decided, since i'm well acquainted with 3-4mg doses (which tend to leave me completely mentally lucid) that i would just eat them.

cross posted from somewhere else (i might turn this into a full TR sometime soon):

It was probably the most visually intense trip I've had in a good while (only being surpassed by my 2c-e and LSD experience), and the DOC became a REAL (as in, included aspects that I find fundamental to a worthwhile trip, difficult ones - extremely altered mindset/thought patterns, etc), bordering on ego loss at times... all while in the fuckin airport trying to catch my flight lol. I had to throw up in the airport bathroom, which was exciting to say the least.

However, after my initial rough come up, the trip was absolutely incredible. Watching the clouds and the ocean morph color and shape constantly in beautiful synchronicity was awe inspiring - i had the feeling the entire time "this is a once in a lifetime opportunity - most people wouldn't think to trip during a flight, because it's risky, but i'm saeeing some of the most beautiful things i could ever see and wow!" My CEVs were leagues above any high dose LSD experiments and were right on par with 2ce

The bad parts though, were really bad. I could barely see in front of my face from all of the flying synesthetic visuals barraging me in the airport - combined with the crippling nausea and the panic at what I had done was really disorienting, especially while trying to get through security and onto my flight. God, what a fuckin journey ahha
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Well... Excuse me but do you mind if I call you a complete fucking idiot!?! Don't you come on here, ripping shit outta ME coz I choose to dose DOC using a drops-per-50 microgram, dosing in the 1.25mg-1.75mg range & then confess that you "accidentally" dosed DOC in the THIRTEEN mg range immediately prior to getting on a fucking airplane. You complete fucking hypocrite!

I am coming into a further small supply of this fine shite & I have every intention of diluting it in EXACTLY the same way as I have done previously WITHOUT any problems at all. I am NOT suggesting ANYONE use my dosing or dilution method but for the sake of continuity I have decided to continue with the same method & bollocks to anyone who think I am "stupid" for doing so. Just because YOU or anyone else thinks something is RIGHT, does not make it so! I know what I'm doing & I'm sticking with it. If something goes wrong I'll be the first to come on here & admit it.

In the meantime would anyone dosing this compound please show a little more intelligence than those who've criticised me for a lack of caution. Coz, as you can see from that which I have quoted, they're not as fucking smart as they think they are!

Oh, & good to hear to survived your cock-up, I-AMME90! I laughed my fucking arse off at your post... =D Karma took a bite outta your arse huh? Hahahahaha! Don't worry, 2c-e bit me pretty hard a few months back & I'll be a little more conservative dosing that shit in future. Happens to the best of us :)
 
Sure does! But uh, calm down man. You're not going to get a rise out of me if you've got a point to prove... maybe you should take a benzo ;)
 
Sorry man, you know my only concern is for your health & the rest of that post was predominantly piss-take right? Although obviously an illusion I HAD to enjoy that moment of imaginary victory Lol :)

Seriously, you show cojones of respectable magnitude surviving that experience & even enjoying a bit of it! Good job...

... & for Gods sake be careful with this compound people!
 
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