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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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Originally I wanted to get some of the white batch as well to compare, but from what I have read, some people taking similar doses to mine from the same supplier (purple batch) report almost no body load.

I think this one comes down to personal chemistry and variations in dosing (we're definitely not all getting exact doses to 2 decimal places beyond a mg).

I also trust the supplier of the purple batch and he provided GC/MS scanned reports to prove his purity.

I'm going to try the DOC again, this time at 1.0mg, within the next couple of weeks and see if it's more tolerable.
 
clubberdude said:
Yeah, I've put together a trip-report of such (rather the chronology of the chemical, as opposed to types of visuals etc).

I'll be posting it here when the experience has ended.

I did 4mg orally, and around 2-3mg nasally.
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did you post this? I didn't see it in TR. Maybe I missed it.
 
Oh yeah, sorry. Haven't finished it yet. Need to just tie up some bits of it. Might finish it now - cheers for reminding me. I've finished it now - I'll post to trip reports, but don't know the rules with posting trip-reports here, Its pretty long.

EDIT: Trip-report can be found here, though be warned, its long. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=9767608#post9767608
 
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nefariouscaine said:
MDA won't do nadda unless over 500mg's is consumed

MDMA will rock the socks at 100mg/QUOTE]

You are either a complete anomaly or you never actually used MDA at the dose you believe you have.

The dose required is a little higher, more like 150mgs, but it does everything MDMA does and then some.

Sorry, but it's the same experience, only with more psychedelic properties as opposed to just entactogen/feelings of closeness.
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Can DOC be liquid dosed in Vodka or similar liquor/spirit ?

I guess they are around ~43% alcohol.
 
nefariouscaine said:
should have some on the way shortly and believe research will start at the 3mg point but I'm always needing to hold back my wish to do a strong/heavy dose due to my diverse tolerance issues

brains chemistry is a little funky to say the least

tolerance for LSD is not to be mentioned - its up there even after no dosing for years...

2-ct-2 was enjoyable at the 25mg range but nothing great

MDA won't do nadda unless over 500mg's is consumed

MDMA will rock the socks at 100mg

research is being continued at the 10-20mg range (insulfated) on 4-aco-dmt and soon to be hitting up 4-ho-met
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you can't just develop a massive tolerance to MDA without developing any tolerance to MDMA, they have a similar (albeit not identical) receptor profile and I dunno how you could possibly need over 500mg for MDA and 100mg for MDMA.
 
Tried 8 mg DOC 3 days ago.
Weight : 45kg
Height : 1m66-68

What a crazy ride. Very funky psychedelic and long lasting! Bodyloads are mellows, experiences some tension & spasms. Slight increase in heartbeat & blood pressure. Bodyloads are not very strong compared to DOI.

Sweet stuff i love it ! (Beware 8 mg was INTENSE!, i'm experience with DOI up to 6mg so for me it's "easy" to keep cool on DOC).

Peace, be safe!
 
Consumed 7mg of the purple tinted DOC, dissolved in distilled water.

Observations: Experienced the same type of body load as before - persistent nausea on the come up, once I purged myself very minimal body tension and virtually nothing else.

Conclusion: The purple tinted DOC is the same as the white DOC I have previously experienced. I can't believe people thought that somehow this purple batch was some "super potent" DOC or something... come on now.

The trip:

A fun, tumultuous and totally heart-strain night!

t + 0: DOC taken. Feel faint nausea and anxiety mere seconds after ingesting, psychosomatically induced symptoms I assume.

t + 30: Feeling very faint effects, visual and auditory, nausea has not become pronounced yet so I take a shower. There is no music playing, yet I feel very musical and sing some of my favorite Beatles songs with no accompaniment and don't miss a note. This is a very musical drug.

t + 50: Purged. That felt good. I am engulfed in quite a fuckton of fractals and loving it. Getting the phenethylamine "fan effect," where it looks as tho a fan is blowing very high speed across the ceiling - I get this on 2c-e as well. Very much enjoyed, but we have to turn the actual fan off because it's a bit much, haha.

t + 2: The night gets interesting. I am with one other person on DOC (5mg), and 4 others on low dose mushrooms. We are feeling a bit "loki the prankster" tonight and decide to shake things up a bit, because that needs to be done sometimes. We go to a large field whilst peaking and light $200 worth of good fireworks off in one haphazard explosive device. We give the national Mall a run for its money. Then the night gets really interesting. Three vans, who we now presume to have been irate neighbors masquerading as cops, circle around us very pointedly in the field, closing in on us. At this point we book it at break neck speed in pitch black to the car and make it out fine, like we knew we would... but it was still quite exciting anywho. I haven't had a perceived LEO chase in a long, long time lol, early high school days.
 
^thanks for the report.

I just got hold of some of the lavender stuff. What would you guys suggest as a good +++ dose for someone who likes 2c-i at 22-26mg, 2c-t-7 at 25-40mg, or 2c-e at 12-15mg?

I was thinking about 2.5-3.0mg for the 4th of july, does that sound in line with other people who have similar phen-response as me?
 
I would caution against that high of a dose. My 2C-x tolerance didn't appear to have anything to do with my reaction to DOC. I am fairly hard-headed when it comes to the 2Cs. However, I'm very sensitive to amphetamine, and man oh man if my DOC experience wasn't more in line with that.

I'd try 2.0mg at the most for a first time. You won't be bored.
 
IamMe90 said:
Conclusion: The purple tinted DOC is the same as the white DOC I have previously experienced. I can't believe people thought that somehow this purple batch was some "super potent" DOC or something... come on now.
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That's good to know. I have the white powder but haven't tried it yet. Sounds like you had a wicked time.
 
Would it be possible to dissolve 20mg or more of DOC in 1ml 75% Ethanol. So i would have a 2mg/0.1ml concentration and could drop it with a 0.1ml syringe on sugar cubes?

My only question is if this will completely dissolve in this small amount of Ethanol or other liquid, i don't want other suggestions or instructions. I'm aware that this would be a high concentration. I have a very good scale and syringe to measure it out.
 
The new white crystalline batch seems to be much more soluable than batches from a few years ago for some reason. Older batches always needed a little heat to dissolve even at low concentration.
 
I dissolved 200mg in 15mL with no problems, definitely had to apply some heat and swirl it around a bit, but it went fine.
 
I got 250mg into 6.325ml of 99% everclear. No heating, just stirring at the bottom of a shot glass.
 
Why the fuck are you guys taking 5 or 7mg of DOC? Is your stuff so impure? I thought 2mg should be a potent enough dose. I'm speaking about the white european batch tough.
 
^Me and my girlfriend, we wonder the same thing, after a fabulous experience + + + + with 3mg, batch white European.
 
sokkko said:
Why the fuck are you guys taking 5 or 7mg of DOC? Is your stuff so impure? I thought 2mg should be a potent enough dose. I'm speaking about the white european batch tough.
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tolerance builds quickly, and high doses are really manageable with this stuff. unlike a lot of psychedelics, DOC is often both forgiving and rewarding in higher doses.
 
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