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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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^Just plain old cut-up watercolor sheets will work?
Someone said watercolor paper #14 or something?
Does it matter if they're perforated?
 
Yup, watercolor paper #14. You perforate them yourself if you want them perforated. I love my phenazepam and 5-meo-mipt blotters, can't wait to get my DOC, DOI, and DOM and turn them into blotters too :D.
 
If you're going to perforate them using a sewing machine, do so before you lay the chemical on there. Same with if you plan on printing anything on the watercolor paper. Also, if you plan on printing something on there (like the name of the chemical on the paper so it doesnt get passed off as something its not, or just so you remember), try to print it using soy ink so it causes less havoc in your body.
 
I posted this in ADD but I think it is worth posting here as well for future researchers.

I have finally come to realise that I might have some impure DOC and it's not just my psych tolerance. Might be around 50% pure, according to the dosages listed in PIHKAL. Does anybody know what any possible impurities could be and if they could be harmful? How about anyway to clean it?
 
bbx4 said:
I posted this in ADD but I think it is worth posting here as well for future researchers.

I have finally come to realise that I might have some impure DOC and it's not just my psych tolerance. Might be around 50% pure, according to the dosages listed in PIHKAL. Does anybody know what any possible impurities could be and if they could be harmful? How about anyway to clean it?
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What color is your DOC? Mine has a slight purple hue.
 
i took 1mg of DOC when i had a cross tolerance from taking 2c-p the day before. i felt almost no psychedelic effects, but i had a VERY heightened emotional response that surprised me quite a bit.
 
DwayneHoover said:
^ Wikipedia page says 1mg is "threshold," so....
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hm perhaps i should have elaborated a bit more.

i had dosed 2c-p i think 4 times in the week before i dosed the DOC... 15mg or so of 2c-p the day before felt closer to like 5-7mg felt without tolerance. consequently i didn't really expect ANYTHING from that 1mg of DOC, but i ended up being pleasantly surprised with a threshold response that brightened up my night nicely. :)
 
Psyke said:
^Just plain old cut-up watercolor sheets will work?
Someone said watercolor paper #14 or something?
Does it matter if they're perforated?
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I was going to suggest the exact same thing. Just do a little math equation and make up an area that is equivalent to the amount of DOC you would like to have per X amount of space. So say, mark 1/4 X 1/4 " squares and work out how much DOC you would like on them. If not just purchase blotter "art" from Ebay or something. In fact, if you did that, you could just put it in a plastic sleeve in a binder with other assorted art work/news clippings/whatever.

Because I would not want to put DOC in water or anything else that may cause it to degrade. And I would not want attempt to carry an alcoholic solution on an airplane.

You could then wrap the blotter in a very thin layer of saran wrap, put it in the middle of a bunch of business cards or such and put it in your carry on luggage.
 
Psyke said:
^Just plain old cut-up watercolor sheets will work?
Someone said watercolor paper #14 or something?
Does it matter if they're perforated?
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Something a friend of mine told me recently. Just good to know.

There is no such thing as #14 watercolor paper. Everybody says #14 because they've never watercolored or laid blotter before, and the famous Crystal to Blotter thread said, "standard #14 watercolor paper".

The most standard watercolor paper is 140 lb... or 140#. That's what chinacat meant. He obviously (if legit) simply forgot the zero because it was a long time since he used crystal or whatever. The higher the lb/#, the thicker and more absorbent the paper. Either way, 140# is standard, but nowhere near the most absorbent... you can even get 300#.

The more you know.
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Love In Vein said:
I just had to chime in that this batch is by far the best I've had since I began obtaining samples of it in 2006.
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Yeah originally when I saw that purple hue I just thought fuck... this probably 50% unreacted chlorine or something! Happily I was wrong!

Also to the guy worrying about the airport, here is what you do. Go buy a little mini bottle of alcohol. Volumetrically dissolve your DOC (I do 25mg / 25ml soln. made of 20% alcohol) and put that into the bottle. Close it up, throw it in your checked luggage, and be done with it.

I put a little parafilm around the bottle top because I don't trust it, but otherwise you're good to go. However, please don't leave it in that alcohol bottle at your destination because at some point, someone WILL chug it and a 3-day trip of pure dysphoric insanity or a hospital trip will ensure.
 
JBrandon said:
Yeah originally when I saw that purple hue I just thought fuck... this probably 50% unreacted chlorine or something! Happily I was wrong!

Also to the guy worrying about the airport, here is what you do. Go buy a little mini bottle of alcohol. Volumetrically dissolve your DOC (I do 25mg / 25ml soln. made of 20% alcohol) and put that into the bottle. Close it up, throw it in your checked luggage, and be done with it.

I put a little parafilm around the bottle top because I don't trust it, but otherwise you're good to go. However, please don't leave it in that alcohol bottle at your destination because at some point, someone WILL chug it and a 3-day trip of pure dysphoric insanity or a hospital trip will ensure.
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Thanks, that's a great idea! It's already too late and I ended up leaving it at school, but that's a fantastic idea for future volumetric drugs that I want to transport.

I also ended up dosing 13mg on two wheat thins (as 6.5 on each) and accidentally ingesting all of it in the airport... needless to say this was an extremely intense experience. Luckily, it turned out completely fine, even fantastic - but I would caution everyone to be reaaaally careful, I saw the potential for this to be really overwhelming and negative if I hadn't my partner to talk me down.
 
WTF - 13mg at the airport? How did you survive the flight?

Details are needed! Can't cocktease with a story like that. And why of all things did you choose wheat thins? How did you accidentally eat them? Sounds like an epic trip report could come from this.
 
Well, in a stupid careless mix up I somehow had miscalculated how much i had put on, as in made a simple mathematical error while dosing with the syringe. looking back at the numbers and the intensity of the trip its clear i dosed about 13mg instead of 3-4 i had intended. i hadn't intended to dose it but i got irrationally nervous carrying the thins through security and decided, since i'm well acquainted with 3-4mg doses (which tend to leave me completely mentally lucid) that i would just eat them.

cross posted from somewhere else (i might turn this into a full TR sometime soon):

It was probably the most visually intense trip I've had in a good while (only being surpassed by my 2c-e and LSD experience), and the DOC became a REAL (as in, included aspects that I find fundamental to a worthwhile trip, difficult ones - extremely altered mindset/thought patterns, etc), bordering on ego loss at times... all while in the fuckin airport trying to catch my flight lol. I had to throw up in the airport bathroom, which was exciting to say the least.

However, after my initial rough come up, the trip was absolutely incredible. Watching the clouds and the ocean morph color and shape constantly in beautiful synchronicity was awe inspiring - i had the feeling the entire time "this is a once in a lifetime opportunity - most people wouldn't think to trip during a flight, because it's risky, but i'm saeeing some of the most beautiful things i could ever see and wow!" My CEVs were leagues above any high dose LSD experiments and were right on par with 2ce

The bad parts though, were really bad. I could barely see in front of my face from all of the flying synesthetic visuals barraging me in the airport - combined with the crippling nausea and the panic at what I had done was really disorienting, especially while trying to get through security and onto my flight. God, what a fuckin journey ahha
 
man, that sounds awful. glad you didn't get arrested or anything. The highest i've gone with DOC is 2.55mg, and that was a strong +++ for some time. Felt pretty lucid, but didn't have to deal with anyone til about T+10 or so, so i can't be entirely sure of my lucidity... can't imagine going above 6 though, let alone 10....
 
What should be understand is that I (and somehow my best friend, but no one else among our friend group) have always been a hard head with dosing pretty much any psychedelic... 3.5g of cubensis bores me, 25mg of 2c-e is my "sweet spot" etc. I found the effects of DOC below 10mg fun, but not inspiring. Granted, I would still never choose to do it an airport... I'm just glad it worked out.
 
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