Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread - Part 2

[unodelacosa]

Am I entitled or allowed to do that here?

Probably, I just find the practice odd. It reminds me of the old days of The Hive when people who write "swim" for "someone who isn't me", but as any criminal law attorney will tell you, that was never a sufficient legal defense to anything. But it also made me think of that Seinfeld episode were Elaine is dating this guy Jimmy who only and always refers to himself in the third person. That shit's a classic

Anyway, no need to get defensive. I'm not here to break anyone's balls, and I'm not a mod, so no worries, my guy.

As far as taking a benzo to end , does it matter if it's gaba b like phenibut or baclofen, or does it have to be gaba a like Xanax?

You'll get a somewhat similar effect from gaba B, but personally I have found that nothing alleviates anxiety better than a triazolo-benzodiazepine like Xanax or Halcion or a thienotriazolodiazepine like Etizolam or Metizolam.

 

[higherconciousness]

Damn, after coming through this thread, this is like one of the most split drugs I’ve ever seen. Some people either love it or absolutely hate it. I’m thinking of getting some, but the consensus here is a little perplexing.

 

[unodelacosa]

Damn, after coming through this thread, this is like one of the most split drugs I’ve ever seen. Some people either love it or absolutely hate it. I’m thinking of getting some, but the consensus here is a little perplexing.

Oscar Wilde said a couple of interesting things about success and critics. Firstly he said that "the critic's job is to educate the public; the artist's job is to educate the critic."

And then he also said – and I'm paraphrasing – that when something new comes out and half the critics love it while half the critics hate it, then we probably have something that breaks new ground.

Add to it – Moxy is renowned for being a bit of a fickle goddess. Some people get absolutely clobbered by 5-MeO-MiPT, then they take the same dose three weeks later and have a lovely time. It really is odd. Personally, I've had nothing but a good time on both it and it's sibling, "Foxy Methoxy" aka 5-MeO-DiPT. Your mileage may vary.

 

[gardenhead]

Damn, after coming through this thread, this is like one of the most split drugs I’ve ever seen. Some people either love it or absolutely hate it. I’m thinking of getting some, but the consensus here is a little perplexing.

Last year I posted here in the thread about my first experience with this substance, and it was extremely uncomfortable, so I was surprised by the responses in this thread (the overwhelming majority loving Moxy). After a few trips, I found out how to counter the negative effects with ondansetron the experience changed by a lot, and it became one of my top substances.

 

[unodelacosa]

Last year I posted here in the thread about my first experience with this substance, and it was extremely uncomfortable, so I was surprised by the responses in this thread (the overwhelming majority loving Moxy). After a few trips, I found out how to counter the negative effects with ondansetron the experience changed by a lot, and it became one of my top substances.

Yeah Zofran is a 5-HTP3 receptor antagonist, which is the serotonin receptor that regulates nausea. If you have a sensitive stomach, that shit can work wonders. I know some ppl who pre-game that before dosing Mescaline for the same purpose. Know thyself. Generally though, yeah, Moxy is

 

[Neuroborean]

Oscar Wilde said a couple of interesting things about success and critics. Firstly he said that "the critic's job is to educate the public; the artist's job is to educate the critic."

And then he also said – and I'm paraphrasing – that when something new comes out and half the critics love it while half the critics hate it, then we probably have something that breaks new ground.

Add to it – Moxy is renowned for being a bit of a fickle goddess. Some people get absolutely clobbered by 5-MeO-MiPT, then they take the same dose three weeks later and have a lovely time. It really is odd. Personally, I've had nothing but a good time on both it and it's sibling, "Foxy Methoxy" aka 5-MeO-DiPT. Your mileage may vary.

7-12mg seems to be the sweet spot, I've taken up to 25mg and that doses are plain dangerous and they feel "odd", I would say they are toxic to some extent, there's already some vague scientific reports about its cell toxicity (apoptosis inducing) so well...
I do love it but the higher dosages can lead inexperienced users into psychosis and terrible thought loops, dark stuff. Generally it's very sharp and luminous during the first 2 hours, then it can become "gloomy", but for me it's not gloomy, it's just... introspective, some people who cannot handle their issues become overwhelmed by that shift and start feeling doomed.

 

[higherconciousness]

Yeah, that’s the first thing I noticed was the dose response curve. 2mg too much resulted in a bad experience, yet seems like when you find that sweet spot, it’s rather enjoyable. I actually decided not to get it now. I kind of regret it. Bought some miprocin instead which is one of my fave trypts. Saving money for either 2c-I or 2c-ef. Have yet to do the EF, but 2c-I used to be one of my favorite phens. What should I go for? Also have MDA, LSD, 3-meo-pce, cocaine, freebase, amphetamine, and extracting my dmt now. Did I overdo it?

Caught a third DUI the other week because someone hit my car. I got possession charges. So in a couple of weeks here I gotta start outpatient so I’m living it up.

 

[higherconciousness]

Unrelated, but kind of funny story. I got into an argument with my ex. I was mad, so naturally, I fixed a myself a drink then I got my oil burner. I thought I had some.Cathinone in it. Anyways, I take a massive hit and halfway through my exhale I start tripping balls. The room became a wavy. I couldn’t see shit, It was 25b-nboh. It’s quite a perplexing experience, when you don’t expect to be tripping within seconds. Fortunately, it was actually not that bad. But as soon as I exhaled, I was like oh fuck here we go. lol

 

[Neuroborean]

Absolutely love miprocin, one of my favourite substances... It's the perfect psychedelic to give to someone who is more or less experienced with "light" psychedelic experiences and want to go deeper.
i barely have experience with the 2c- substances so I cannot tell you.

Yeah, that’s the first thing I noticed was the dose response curve. 2mg too much resulted in a bad experience, yet seems like when you find that sweet spot, it’s rather enjoyable. I actually decided not to get it now. I kind of regret it. Bought some miprocin instead which is one of my fave trypts. Saving money for either 2c-I or 2c-ef. Have yet to do the EF, but 2c-I used to be one of my favorite phens. What should I go for? Also have MDA, LSD, 3-meo-pce, cocaine, freebase, amphetamine, and extracting my dmt now. Did I overdo it?

Caught a third DUI the other week because someone hit my car. I got possession charges. So in a couple of weeks here I gotta start outpatient so I’m living it up.

 

[higherconciousness]

Absolutely love miprocin, one of my favourite substances... It's the perfect psychedelic to give to someone who is more or less experienced with "light" psychedelic experiences and want to go deeper.
i barely have experience with the 2c- substances so I cannot tell you.

Yeah, 4-ho-met cool too but the come up is to abrupt and before you know it it’s over. Feel like miprocin is way smoother and more well-rounded.

 

[higherconciousness]

Gonna do some MDA, lsd, 3-meo-pce, and dmt. I’ve done the combo before, and it was glorious, majestic, and awe inspiring. Well I might buy a small amount of Moxy even though the sale is over

 

[Neuroborean]

Yeah, 4-ho-met cool too but the come up is to abrupt and before you know it it’s over. Feel like miprocin is way smoother and more well-rounded.

4-ho-met it's barely entheogenic, it's just visual, fun... it has some euphoria in the peak and you can laugh your ass off which is nice, specially in social settings, miprocin it's a real entheogen and you can get as deep as you can upping the dosages. I don't like 4-ho-met "neutral" headspace, at least in low-moderate dosages, the come up it's not nice either, nausea, but miprocin come up it's quite challenging in higher doses, because the visuals and creepy insectoid/snake-y undertones are quite explicit and all of a sudden.

 

[higherconciousness]

4-ho-met it's barely entheogenic, it's just visual, fun... it has some euphoria in the peak and you can laugh your ass off which is nice, specially in social settings, miprocin it's a real entheogen and you can get as deep as you can upping the dosages. I don't like 4-ho-met "neutral" headspace, at least in low-moderate dosages, the come up it's not nice either, nausea, but miprocin come up it's quite challenging in higher doses, because the visuals and creepy insectoid/snake-y undertones are quite explicit and all of a sudden.

Yeah, for sure. The come up just is just too abrupt for me and once I start to enjoy it, the experience begins to fade away. Whereas miprocin is more of a full spectrum psychedelic and relatively easy to handle. I actually had one of my best visuals on it. I was looking out the window at the landscape. It was somewhat generic, a grassy knoll with a few trees spread out. There was a sort of color changing grid that overlaid everything and I saw all 4 seasons keep cycling in 5 second intervals. It was summer and the trees leaves appeared as fractals and then autumn came and the leaves changed colors, fell to the ground then it would start snowing and then spring came and the fractal leaves grew back. This kept on going for quite some time. Never got anything so captivating and beautiful as that from a standard trypt, not including DMT.