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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread - Part 2

50mg is a fat dose of 5-MeO-MiPT to not be feeling anything. There's definitely some tolerance build-up and effects being dulled by the prescriptions you're on. 4mg Clonazepam alone would probably dull a trip for most people, but I don't know what your tolerance to Benzos is like.
 
I have ate benzodiazepines almost 17years, so I have ultimate tolerance for benzos, I dont get even a slightest brainfog for eating 20mg clonazepam. Mmm, maybe it is that quatepine what is the reason behind my non-existent effects for psychedelics, also, agomelatine is HT51A reseptor antagonist. I have to try not eat those medications for a while and then try again. Im angry because my friends are tripping like mofos and Im always the sober one. :/ Anymore hints? :)
 
Agomelatine is a 5HT2C antagonist, not 5HT1A. If you want to trip, you need to be off antipsychotics and benzodiazepines.
 
You can still trip, but weakened, with benzos (though your dosages are very high so it might be difficult, but you will definitely feel effects, just less psychedelic). But, antipsychotics will completely block trips, so you definitely need to be off those and have them out of your system. Generally you're probably on them for a reason so stopping suddenly may not be advisable.
 
I am going to a two day music festival in two weeks and I have a few questions. I do not want to take MDMA two days in a row and was considering taking a small dose of Moxy (4-6mg) on the second night.

I am 6'1 200lbs and am fairly sensitive to psychedelics. I don't like taking more than 2.5gs of mushrooms or 12mg of 4acodmt.

I am also fairly new to psychedelics (mushrooms/4acodmt +-15 times) and generally have a good time on light doses but sometimes I can get lost in my mind thinking about dumb shit. Not necessarily a bad trip; but not a fun time either.

I want to have fun, dance and enjoy the music without getting too caught up in my own mind. Everyone else I will be with will be rolling and drinking. I will likely be drinking during the day and plan on taking it at 8pm. I will also have weed, booze and benzos on hand in case I want more or less.

How introspective does a small dose make you? Will I be able to hold a conversation/be social (with people who are also fucked up)?

Also, I have read through this thread and seen various opinions re: MAOI properties and combining with MDMA. Are there any safety issues with taking it the day after a 200mg dose of MDMA?
 
Dawglaw said:
I am going to a two day music festival in two weeks and I have a few questions. I do not want to take MDMA two days in a row and was considering taking a small dose of Moxy (4-6mg) on the second night.

I am 6'1 200lbs and am fairly sensitive to psychedelics. I don't like taking more than 2.5gs of mushrooms or 12mg of 4acodmt.

I am also fairly new to psychedelics (mushrooms/4acodmt +-15 times) and generally have a good time on light doses but sometimes I can get lost in my mind thinking about dumb shit. Not necessarily a bad trip; but not a fun time either.

I want to have fun, dance and enjoy the music without getting too caught up in my own mind. Everyone else I will be with will be rolling and drinking. I will likely be drinking during the day and plan on taking it at 8pm. I will also have weed, booze and benzos on hand in case I want more or less.

How introspective does a small dose make you? Will I be able to hold a conversation/be social (with people who are also fucked up)?

Also, I have read through this thread and seen various opinions re: MAOI properties and combining with MDMA. Are there any safety issues with taking it the day after a 200mg dose of MDMA?
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I can't speak specifically to MDMA, but I've combined moxy with 5-mapb in the past, and also with amphetamines and other stimulants. I wouldn't be too worried on that front.

I don't think it's particularly introspective--not that it couldn't be, but it feels more "stoning" to me than classically psychedelic. It's much better if you don't redosed, btw. The visuals in the second "phase" of the trip are mild, but beautiful. And it gives a tremendous sense of well being and massive tactile enhancement.

It does make me fumble with words quite a bit, but I haven't found it particularly bothersome. The only thing that's bothered me is it's impact on memory. I get confused/forget what I'm doing a lot on it, though this shouldn't be a big deal at a low dose. 5mg or so should give you a wonderful time.
 
Need answers here too. brand new to rcs didnt even know they existed till few month ago. met a guy who sent me 1g 5-meo-dmt , 1g methylone, and 1g of 5-meo-dalt his idea not mine. I was looking for ketamine originally. Anyways he sent em free i got em. methylone sucks (was doing a ball of molly every other day so this may not be fair to judge it). Problem is i tried the 5-meo - dalt. Ingested a .6 cap while a dose is much lower and nothing.... smoked a bunch nothing... Well then the DMT..... MY dumbass opens it up and just takes out appropriate amount without reading label. Ive never done dmt but understand it and was so ready. Well no. I took a......

First Experience (after snorting 2 gs of molly i blasted the mipt btw)
.3 DAB of 5-meo-dipt . - Blacked out for 20 mins, came too and my in room roommate work up for work like lets go, i looked around and said nah bro
not happening this is insane. (Iv done acid, shrooms, 2ci, salvia, etc.) Called in work and sat in backyard all day. Watching trees morph and move. Watching everything have a radiant glow. All senses are heighten to great amounts its amazing. Ended up being a total of 5-7 hour ordeal.

Second Experience ( 2 days later with 2 roomates)

First roommate A - done as much as me is experience in lots of drug fields.
Second roomate B - never tripped on any psych except shrooms once.
Me- Well <<<<MACHINE>>>>>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Anyways we all decided we had work off all weekend lets party. I told em about the mipt. They wanted to see me dab it. Well i took a .3-.4 dab again and in a room. Them sitting next to me made them start to trip. Its mild trips but the bodyload is dam intense. Like orgasms everywhere randomly. Roommate A fine just keep asking me what I asked him. What did we just stumble upon. OMFG $$$ anyways lol

Roommate B is off in corner. Unable to speak. ( worried now) he seems to be in the lost world state. Where you can tell which life is real your trip or life. I was handling fine so i just got em both to chill to some chillstep.

I dabbed everyone off my dab 3pm on a saturday. Keep smoking the WHOLE G between 3 of us till 6am sunday morning was last hit. Then about 3 hours of amazing after glow we mobbed to burrito shop maxed out ate and black out so good. Just experiencing with it. I found RCs they r all new to me cept for a few. This mipt im ordering like crazy. I know way more about then public i promise. well good look and MIPT DESERVES RESPECT DONT GO CRAZY!!!
 
Damn man, the amounts you use are insane. I think the 3.5 grams of MDMA every other day is your big problem. That is going to cause a TREMENDOUS level of tolerance to all serotonergic substances (which includes psychedelics and, yes, methylone). In addition it's going to absolutely wreck your brain chemistry, if it hasn't already. I strongly recommend not doing that and giving the MDMA a big break. Eventually you'll find you'll be able to trip on semi-regular dosages of psychedelics, though likely your tolerance will be permanently jacked up over most peoples' (mine is, from doing way too many psychedelics though, not MDMA).

You referred to 5-MeO-DALT, 5-MeO-DiPT, and 5-MeO-MiPT in your post, not sure if you really meant those or if you had typos, but either way, those dosages are tremendous. If you really took .3 grams of 5-MeO-DiPT in a dab, you could seriously hurt or kill yourself using that, it's killed people at lower dosages than that.
 
reeushima is one crazy a$$ dude. I read his post, and it just reminded me of an old friend's apartment. Five guys lived there, they all sold drugs, and going over there was chaos. People getting blasted off giant NOS tanks, crystal molly being used DAILY, it was a mess. Granted you can't live that way for long and prosper..
 
I really like ~10mg 5-MeO-MiPT as a mild psychedelic and empathogen with a great body high, that is much safer than MDMA or other serotonin relasing agents. Perfect for social situations as well. Comeup can be a little rough at times, but nothing that someone experienced with the 2C family should be afraid of :)

Definitely one of my favourite tryptamines (I prefer the more stimulating psychedelics in general, and 5-MeO-MiPTs SNRI activity offers exactly that).
 
This stuff is ok with SSRIs, right? I don't have any trouble tripping on mushrooms, acid, al-lad, etc.
 
If you're fine with others this is probably fine too. Interesting how for some, SSRIs seem to virtually block the effects of psychedelics, but not for others.
 
I was worried more about health dangers, but yes psychs seem to work fine for me despite the lexapro. In fact, lysergamides seem to work better for me than friends who don't take any meds. Mushrooms are weakened but that's fixed with a higher dose. A friend on Prozac, on the other hand, experiences diminished effects from all psychedelics.
 
I have done Moxy about 5 times (8-12mgs each time) and I think my final conclusion is that I do not like it due to the strange body high.

The mental aspects are really fun and manageable but the body high is too much for me. My neck got extremely tense and sore during the trip (I felt like my cervical spine joints were almost out of alignment) and I got weird pressure and sensations in my teeth (I felt like I continually needed to brush my teeth and the roots of my teeth felt very sensitive to hot and cold).

I was able to go out to the bars and socialize with good friends who could tell I was fucked up but not very noticeable. I love the subtlety of the chemical but the physical effects are not worth it.
 
Dawglaw said:
I have done Moxy about 5 times (8-12mgs each time) and I think my final conclusion is that I do not like it due to the strange body high.

The mental aspects are really fun and manageable but the body high is too much for me. My neck got extremely tense and sore during the trip (I felt like my cervical spine joints were almost out of alignment) and I got weird pressure and sensations in my teeth (I felt like I continually needed to brush my teeth and the roots of my teeth felt very sensitive to hot and cold).

I was able to go out to the bars and socialize with good friends who could tell I was fucked up but not very noticeable. I love the subtlety of the chemical but the physical effects are not worth it.
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Your reaction is understandable. However, I will comment that even 8mg might be considered too high a dose by some. In a dose range more like 3-5mg I find it to be a far more casual--even weed like-compound. You might have some luck reducing the unpleasant muscle tension by halving your dose--and still be able to enjoy all or many of it's benefits.
 
Yeah even 2mg will affect me, though I prefer 6mg. Maybe try 3-5. I wouldn't call it weed-like at any dose but I don't notice any additional benefits when I take 8-10mg over 6mg, just a stronger body energy that can get pretty intense.
 
I've found that 9-12 mgs is where I enjoy it. At fifteen it gets pretty heady, and 17 becomes uncomfortable. I'll have to do a few more trials at 6-8 mgs and see if I'm wasting material.
 
2-5mg for me is just very stoning, it isn't like weed but "stoned" seems the best way to describe it. I get the strange body energy as well but mentally I'm just constantly zoning out on nothing.

Above 5mg is where it really shines for me. 6-10mg is my sweet spot for having giggle fits, social interaction, and seemingly endless sexual energy.

Above that range 12mg+ gets into full on psychedelic head space and it reminds me a lot of the classics. I get strong visuals and everything at that dose, music sounds amazing, impossible to interact with large crowds at that level though. At high doses the weird body load isn't a problem for me anymore, at some point between the first and second hour I break through it and it doesn't bother me any longer.

My highest attempt with this one was at 18-20mg back in the early part of summer. I didn't feel overwhelmed by it but at times it did feel like it was on the verge of begin a little too much. On another attempt 12-15mg (error in dosing) destroyed me as I was not expecting it and was in a social setting.
 
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For me, a low dose of 5-MeO-MiPT gives me a lot of energy and focus, and a sparkly and acute vision (as in, I see everything more crisply - I have glasses because I am nearsighted but I haven't worn them since I was 18 years old and my eyes have never gotten worse and it doesn't even occur to me anymore than I have fuzzy vision... but if I take 5-MeO-MiPT, I will be able to read letters from farther away and determine details more easily).

Another example of how everyone is different. For me, I would never describe 5-MeO-MiPT as stoning or weed-like, it's opposite of that to me.
 
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