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The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Three

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I took about 50mg (fumarate), and I was BLOWN. It was absolutely beautiful. Although, I must say that despite the sensory overload, I have never in my life been so uncomfortable with myself, or wanted so badly to simply cease existence. It was definitely a unique feeling.

Also, I highly recommend starting the trip in private. The past two times I've dosed, it hit me while in a crowded restaurant, which was very overwhelming.
 
I am planning on taking some 4 aco this weekend but only going to try 20mg to test and get a feel of this chem as i am sensitive to mushrooms. Has anyone else had experiences with this that are also sensitive to mushrooms
 
20mg could be semi-strong if you are sensitive to mushrooms. Above 25mg of 4-AcO-DMT I break through to another dimension. 20mg for me was really great though after I have had some experience with it. I found I could get very deep into the visuals but I could also come out of them and hang out in the altered reality if I wanted to. Are you going to be tripping alone or with friends?
 
Im not sure yet as havent had experience with 4 aco yet. I mite take it outside with a few mates and take 10mg maybe just to get a feel of it as will have plenty more, or mite take it in the house alone at night and stick a trippy movie on. What u think would be the better option?
I have tripped countless time on high doses of acid alone and with friends, also tripped on 2c-e,2c-i,2c-t-7,mushrooms,dmt and dxm so im nat new to tripping
 
If you're plenty experienced with psychs then you'll be fine. I'm just saying 20mg is pretty strong for me, and of course I'm not sure what you mean by being sensitive to mushrooms. I haven't taken mushrooms myself so I'm probably the wrong person to be talking to about it actually.

If you feel like you have enough to play around with and you don't mind trying a smaller dose first, that's always a good way to go about it. I once took a 15mg dose of this stuff and when I decided I wasn't feeling it enough about two hours after dosing, I bumped it up 6-7mg and the trip got to where I wanted it to be. It's always been a lot of fun with good friends for me. I don't think you can go wrong if you keep good company and good vibes.
 
I will try 10mg then to get a feel then bump up like 15mg, will be doing it maybe this weekend but have a few pills to rew first so not sure what will come first, will let u know how it goes anyways Enter Galatic
 
I don't think I'd like to be outside during the peak of a 25 mg dose. And I am relatively experienced with psychedelics. At a 25 mg dose, it becomes difficult to talk/communicate and the CEVs can be very deep and profound. Although I did take a 2.4g dose of piracetam before dropping the 4-Aco-DMT

I had some very DMT like thought patterns about the beauty of life. The very act of existence seemed full of wonder and awe. I also felt like some sort of female energy was trying to communicate with me when I closed my mind.
 
Ill try 10mg while outside then just and ill up the dose when i get home to chill and relax.
Thanks for the advice love the sound of the visuals being like dmt fukin love the stuff
 
Hi, long time reader, first time poster.... (yes! I always wanted to say that)

I've been reading the Big & Dandy threads for a couple months or so and I finally made the decision to get 4-AcO-DMT and I love it.

I've tripped aces at ~12mg and 20mg. I capped the rest of my sample and it is ~45mg. I thought the 20mg was great visually and just lovely overall, but I felt it was really easy and left me wanting more. I don't want to split the 45mg into two separate trips, but I was thinking take 35mg and save 10 for when my next batch comes in. I don't have much experience with psychs (this is actually my first chemical) but I think 4-AcO-DMT is just awesome and pleasurable and can't wait to experience more on a whole different level. Thoughts on dosing 35mg or 45mg or something else? Maybe plug 20 or 25....

Thanks.
 
You should take whatever dose you please, regardless of how much you will have left...

and then use whats left as a low dose or a combo with something else like mdma. Youd be suprised how much a 10mg dose coupled with mdma or on a boring day will do
 
Anyone have any information/suggestions regarding mixing this chemical with MDMA at a rave? I feel like if I took slightly less 4-aco-dmt, about 18-23mg instead of my first dose of 25-30mg, along with 200-300mg of MDMA, it'd be simply orgasmic. The combination of the controllable headspace + the insane increased appreciation for music + the euphoric body high... i don't even want to begin to think about the epicness that might ensue.

Can anyone offer any information and/or experiences? :)

I haven't tried this combo but I reckon I'd (personally) dose at 15mg my first time combining the two (at a rave that is). Visuals would be very nice but not too overwhelming for public, and the euphoria and headspace combined with mdma seems like it'd be a wonder.
 
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Tried 14mg last night and didnt like it at all. Any good effects were overshadowed by anxiety and it felt to me just another very very crude imitation of lsd. From ingestion by bomb to sudden rapid drop off lasted 4hrs exactly.

Compared to the beautiful smoothness of 25c nbome this stuff is crap.

Walls were breathing curtains rippling but the CEV`s were `flashes` too quick and changing so rapid and some weird entity kept popping up spoiling the images. I would see something i liked but then it would change so fast i didnt get time to focus on what it was. Lots of sparkly type visuals but like i say crude crude crude acid feeling. Troubled sleep but no come down whatsoever. No trace at all that i was `on something` last night.

Glad i only bought 250mg!
 
Does anyone else notice the shortness of this trip when dosed in liquid (ie. water) on an empty stomach? Both my best friend and I notice onset and threshold effects within 20 minutes and are full blown tripping balls by 45-60 minutes in which lasts until about 180-220 minutes in. Extremely fast onset and you're tripping balls for a solid few hours, and then the trip snaps to an abrupt end almost as quickly as it began.

I'll likely be liquid dosing a decent amount of 4-aco-dmt this evening by myself with some music, a pencil pad, and my computer full of my own musings and music.. was just curious, because in total, it only lasts about 3 hours for us in this fashion, and we take hefty amounts. 25mg+ at a time
 
That's generally the timeline I get when dosing with a capsule. I like it a lot, very intense and then settles into a nice glowing plateau.
 
Quick question for anyone that knows: is it safe or a bad idea to take another 20mg dose 14 days after the last time?
 
If your previous trip didn't go wrong, and if you aren't on any medicine(like antidepresants)... in other words, if there are no other reasons to suspect danger, then it is safe.

There should be no tolerance between your previous dose, and 20 mg isn't high dose, so it is ok. Don't worry:)
 
Just wanted to let you guys know that left at room temperature in a not airptight enviroment, 4-aco-dmt will degrade over a few months. One of my samples has degraded about 20-30% in 4 months.
 
^ Can potency loss be a result of moisture absorption?
Did you try measure the weight of your sample to see any changes?
 
I didn't but I was planning on doing a TLC to see if there were 2 noticeable spots, one for the 4-aco and the other for the oxide or w/e it happens to be.

Also if the sample was heavier it could be from moisture absorption or oxidation.
 
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