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The Big & Dandy 25C-NBOMe Thread (part 2) ver. "My skin feels like lightning"

What [b]in your experience[/b] would be a maximum responsible buccal dose for 25C?

  • up to 400 μg

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • up to 600 μg

    Votes: 11 17.5%
  • up to 900 μg

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • up to 1200 μg

    Votes: 25 39.7%
  • up to 1500 μg

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • a dose higher than 1500 μg

    Votes: 5 7.9%

  • Total voters
    63
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Yes, or, start with half just in case.
Also you can buy a test kit (ehrlich reagent) to test for LSD. If it turns out not to be I would bin it or approach with more caution and apply the titration method.

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Also, look at those poll results coming... Smashing.
 
I'm not sure I like the question posed. We can all agree on something like a responsible starting dose (in theory, at least), but what is responsible at the higher end varies wildly from person to person. I take 1.7mg buccally but titrated up from 500ug and I don't suffer effects even in the slightest worrying from that dose. But I'm not sure I want to answer the poll and skew the data toward an answer that would prove to be responsible for someone else.
 
We should worry about the lowest dose getting answers because apparently *some* are getting into trouble beyond that point. It is a matter of reading the results correctly.

The further one is dosing beyond where a rising number of people are getting difficulties the more one statistically is going to run the risk of getting into problems. For example if a small minority is finding that a dose lower than what you are dosing, is the max, the risk you will be among them should be proportionate to that small portion of the population.

We are not ensuring anyone that if they dose at a dose that gets the most responses, they should be fine. But I think we'd better have this way of measuring than just letting people get inspired by the fools that keep on pushing the envelope.
Instead, the end goal is that we can find a dose beyond which we can decide on warning people discussing it. If we get a clear enough picture of that the poll will actually be removed so that PD's crew can interpret the data correctly FOR those that can't.
The bigger the consensus if about that cutoff point the faster we know when to warn others. But I have no illusions about doses below where we are editing posts to warn about being 100% safe. That is not what this is about.
 
So I've recieved some
uncomplexed 700ug 25c hcl blotters, only strange thing is theyre like 2-3 times as big as regular blotter. I asked the source about this and he told me he prefers them that way and and reassured me that its the correct dosage with each big blotter being one 700ug dose. Was wondering if anyone here has experience with extra big blotters for nbomes? They also have a faint smell to them, could that be the type of solvent they're laid with or something? The source is very reputable and seems to swear up and down they're 25c-nbome.

Regardless of this, is it worth taking half of one to test the waters out if i'm looking for a good full trip? Low doses of 25i-nbome (were VERY boring) to me, i didn't really find that chem all that worth it unless i took at least a mg. the reason I come to try 25c was because 25i always felt pretty harsh on my brain/body and lots of people recommend 25c over it.
 
Types of blotter are just structured to be absorbent enough up to a certain extent, and sometimes made extra thick or alternatively divided into extra large squares as doses. These factors determine how much of a drug could be taken up at maximum. Apparently they couldn't get the thick type or were unusually paranoid about perhaps not being able to let regularly squared blotter paper take up all of their chosen dose. Maybe the blotter was bought first, and the size secures a good margin for their choice dosage. Or they also sell DOX compounds and use the same blotter paper to make it easier.

The paper isn't the issue but if there is ink on it some have argued that this can cause side effects although I am tempted to accept the possibility that this has never been proven or confirmed. It might just be a batch purity issue that throws these people off track instead.
 
If the ink can cause side effects then i would assume them to be negligible and one tab would just be like eating 3 hits of regular blotter, inkwise - right? Is bigger blotter typically laid with a more toxic type of ink or something?
 
fwiw I've had 25C- and 25D-NBOMe that came on big-size blotter. I found them both very clean and easy at one blotter (500 and 800 ug, respectively). if you are very worried about the ink you can always spit the tab out rather than swallow?
 
does anyone have experience with 25I-NBOMe 500mcg? Is it the same as the chemical titled in this thread?
How many 25I-NBOMe 500mcg would i need to take for a good trip
 
^^^ its close enough, just one letter out isnt it? As such what does dosage matter? One digit out or two? How long do you think you will live risking your health on such precisions?
 
Just start with one. People have various reactions to the stuff, so it's always better to start with 500ug. Then, slowly work your way up (next step 750ug, above that 1mg, etc.)

Another note: This is 25C-NBOMe, different chemical. Kind of the same idea, but 25i has it's own thread
 
Tonight i snorted around 600ug of 25C-Nbome and i had one of the worst body reaction ever had, really severe vasoconstriction similar to 40mg of 4-Aco-Dipt, i was shivering hard and i had really bad muscle tension, it was fucking awful, i was getting worried it was becoming dangerous and i took 1mg of alprazolam to calm it.

I really can't explain this reaction for now, in the past i never had problems with any Nbome and i took 25C too.

This was a new sample of 25C-Nbome from a reliable vendor where i already took 25B in the past (but not 25C) and worked just greatly so i don't think this could be a bad batch also because in the trip the usuals Nbome OEVs were there hence i don't know what other substance it could have been.

I don't know if the fact that i'm quitting Citalopram could affect it, i already reduced enough, in months, the daily dose to quit in one week.

Could impurities of a bad batch cause this or anyone other experienced so bad vasoconstriction and muscle tension at this dose with 25C-Nbome?

Let's say that I'm groping in the dark :?

This is a valuable post.

Have you snorted the same amount in the past? How did you weigh this amount or was this nasal drip via liquid suspension?

When trying a new batch, I think titration is important (I do this despite really not liking to) and it doesn't matter how well you know the vendor or the quality of the vendor's other products are. You might have to wait a while to re-evaluate that 25C batch because of the possible complication with Citalopram . I don't have the answer there but it wouldn't surprise me if that could be responsible in some way.

What about possible dietary intake ( too much caffeine, energy drinks , alcohol )?
 
So if I am reading right this is more like MDMA than LSD?

No, it has distinct effects from either of those substances and is properly a psychedelic that can bring about some entactogenic effects in some people. It will certainly be nowhere near the level of empathy or euphoria that MDMA produces.
 
No, it has distinct effects from either of those substances and is properly a psychedelic that can bring about some entactogenic effects in some people. It will certainly be nowhere near the level of empathy or euphoria that MDMA produces.

I think it will probably be BETTER than x in those aspects :) X is great, but even 2c-I was better :)
 
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