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The Big & Dandy 25C-NBOMe Thread (part 2) ver. "My skin feels like lightning"

What [b]in your experience[/b] would be a maximum responsible buccal dose for 25C?

  • up to 400 μg

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • up to 600 μg

    Votes: 11 17.5%
  • up to 900 μg

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • up to 1200 μg

    Votes: 25 39.7%
  • up to 1500 μg

    Votes: 9 14.3%
  • a dose higher than 1500 μg

    Votes: 5 7.9%

  • Total voters
    63
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I was not asking for a starter dose but I see why you guys responded like that, thanks for the answers everyone.
 
^I understand, you were asking if your dose should increase if you are using the non-complexed form. The dose should be the same regardless, it just might take twice as long to absorb.
 
I completely agree that 500ug is the highest dose one should start with, but I was just answering his question for a medium-strong dose. Sorry, I should've been much clearer.

Hm... the tabs I'm getting are 700ug, they're going to be absolutely puny tabs so I don't know how I could cut down from 700 with like a scissors haha...
 
Hm... the tabs I'm getting are 700ug, they're going to be absolutely puny tabs so I don't know how I could cut down from 700 with like a scissors haha...

you will be able to cut them almost in half with scissors if you use tweezers to hold a tab.

but yeah it really blows that most vendors want to circulate "full strength" blotters instead of giving people something they can work with more easily. i bet you wouldn't hear so many horror stories about this class if you could buy 200 ug blotters. (i find it incredibly fucked that this isn't an option considering that these 200 ug blotter would not cost a vendor more than 20 cents each including cost of artwork-blotter and micropipette....)
 
Tonight i snorted around 600ug of 25C-Nbome and i had one of the worst body reaction ever had, really severe vasoconstriction similar to 40mg of 4-Aco-Dipt, i was shivering hard and i had really bad muscle tension, it was fucking awful, i was getting worried it was becoming dangerous and i took 1mg of alprazolam to calm it.

I really can't explain this reaction for now, in the past i never had problems with any Nbome and i took 25C too.

This was a new sample of 25C-Nbome from a reliable vendor where i already took 25B in the past (but not 25C) and worked just greatly so i don't think this could be a bad batch also because in the trip the usuals Nbome OEVs were there hence i don't know what other substance it could have been.

I don't know if the fact that i'm quitting Citalopram could affect it, i already reduced enough, in months, the daily dose to quit in one week.

Could impurities of a bad batch cause this or anyone other experienced so bad vasoconstriction and muscle tension at this dose with 25C-Nbome?

Let's say that I'm groping in the dark :?
 
So, I just tried this tonigh at 400ug. As a psychedelic it was hollow, but visually spectacular. But that wasn't what was important about the trip.

Am I the only one who gets legitimate MDMA like effects from this?

I mean, damn. I don't even care about this as a psychedelic, but I would use it just for the MDMA like feelings. I can see myself running through my entire supply just for the MDMA like feelings and completely ignoring the psychedelic aspects of it.

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I wanted to give a little more detail on my experience. There's a full TR at the shroomery, but here's a rundown:

I took 400ug held against my gums for 20 minutes. I appear to be unusually sensative to NBOMes. 500ug of 25i-NBOMe had me at very close to ++++. This 400ug on 25c-NBOMe gave me a solid +++. The visuals were the most spectacular visuals I've ever seen on anything aside from 2CE. 2CE still has better visuals by far, but this is easily 2nd place. The distortions of size and shape that 25c-NBOMe causes are extreme and extremely beautiful. The flowing is very close to the flowing on 2CE, and nothing like the flowing on psilocybin. I peaked at about an hour after taking it, and after the peak hardcore MDMA like effects set in. It felt better than almost anything I've ever felt. There was no euphoria, but I spent hours feeling amazingly good sensations all over my body. I laughed so hard, and it felt so good to laugh. Drastically enhanced empathy, and I lacked any inhibition what so ever. I wanted to tell everyone everything for no reason. Very social. I would have told a complete stranger every secret of my life. Secrets seemed absurd, all inhibition and internal barriers were washed away.

This drug felt sooooo good, and I have been having amphetamine like cravings for it ever since taking it. I even wanted to redose when I started coming down.
 
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A few weeks ago I ordered 50 tabs of 25c, complexed, with each tab containing 1000ug (1mg).
This is the second psychedelic I have ever done in my life. Two months ago I got my hands on blotters of acid; my experienced friends concluded it to be acid though nowadays you never know. I did acid three times over six weeks, the first time one tab, two for the second time and three for the third time. The reason why I did two and three tabs was because I had just started taking Remeron/Mirtazapine 15mg which dulls the effects of psychedelics as it acts on the 5-HT2 receptors like other anti-psychotics.

I had stopped taking Remeron almost a month after starting to take it because of side effects; I slept too damn much! The last time I took it was December 16th. The first time I dosed 25c was one week later on the 23rd. I took half a tab, 500ug, buccaly. The come up was quick and not disorienting in the least bit and began at +0:40. There was the usual suspects of things warping, breathing, brightness of colors, visually strong ++ or light +++ with the body load being significantly less than what I experienced on LSD. There was a little bruxism and muscle stiffness as well as distortion of temperature senses. I couldn't move quite normally, felt more like trying to walk on DXM. There was a lack of emotional connection and intimacy like I had experienced on LSD; this drug was very superficial. While I did have somewhat of a grin, I felt almost nothing as far as the reported euphoria. When I went to the bathroom to piss, and stared at the wall, I began to see OEV patterns. It wasn't fractals but it was more like a wild tribal pattern that changed between red, green, and blue hues. It went away as soon as I looked down to flush. I didn't close my eyes long enough to experience CEVs until I went to sleep, but I was so tired, I was able to sleep about 2-3 hours into the trip. Must have been the effects of the Remeron still in my system.

The next night I took the other half of the tab. Bright colors, trails, mild warping and breathing. Visually a light ++. The body load was not as bad as the night before, and there was more of a mood lifting feeling with the light stimulant effects. Nothing to write home about though. This trip was probably 30% weaker than the night before. The most significant visual effect I noticed was the pattern on the tiles in my bathroom sort of taking up most of my field of vision if I rested my eyes and concentrated enough. Basically the lines between the tiles disappeared. That's pretty much about it other than the mild breathing.

The other night, December 31st, I took a whole 1000ug tab. At +0:20 I was coming up hard and fast, like being launched out of a cannon. There was no nausea at all, and it was actually a fun energetic race to clean my room and sit down before the effects fully kicked in. The trip became so overwhelming that I was definitely at a super strong +++ (Or ++++?) I lost the sense of time, the sense of self as well. I was an observer to the world, sort of in movie mode. The visuals were absolutely crazy, RGB fluttering shadows all over the place. I was talking with my mom face to face in the unlit hallway, and her hue was changing and she appeared to be warping but like the other times I tried 25c, my head was clear and I was calm and collected. No worries. Got to me room and text was going crazy! Everything was buzzing around like sparks of electricity. It looked random at first but the patterns actually were repetitive. My peripheral vision was filled with random shadows with different colored hues. There was somewhat of a cerebral feeling going down my spine and my body felt some euphoria like the come-up of an MDMA trip. It didn't last long before the body load became over whelming. My muscles became tense and I couldn't help but do some Jeet Kun Do inspired stretched like Bruce Lee to get the tension out. It helped, but the tension never fully went away. It was like the body anxiety of LSD. This was probably because I was in my room on my laptop, not doing anything at all. I think if I went for a walk, things would have been different. I did get the feeling of my nerves flaring, and I was finally able to control the way my body felt which was a relief, but it was too little too late. After the peak which was at about +1:40, the trip was downgraded significantly to the lame, superficial trip like the last two times. There were visuals and body load but the experience was nowhere near as awesome and overwhelming as it was while peaking. The CEVs while peaking were amazing, 3D, bright, with a sense of depth. It was like a visualizer going along with the music. There were OEVs. I could see Shiva dancing with a ring of balls all around her rotating. After the peak there were strong residual effects of visuals but nothing too substantial. No fractals, but instead the usual tribal hue-changing pattern when staring out at a wall.

Tonight I took another 1000ug tab, and had the same experience as the first time I took 500ug, only I didn't start coming up until +0:55. Same experience though. Every time I tripped it was much more intense for the first hour or so than the last few hours.

All in all it was an interesting experience, but it's very superficial and novel. I bought 25c because I enjoyed LSD but thought it was too damn long. Ironically, my great experience with it was too short-lived!

I had no physical issues with 25c. No vasoconstriction to note, except my mouth was really numb from the tab. Since I was sick, my nose was still stuffed. Music was wonderful and really set the mood, but I did not quite feel the euphoria and emotions that others reported. At least not for so long.

I'm considering dosing again in a few days, maybe doing 1.5-2mg max, buccaly. What are the physical dangers of doing so that I'd have to look out for besides vasoconstriction and hypertension? This time I'll be smoking hash with my trip which should take care of the latter, and I haven't noticed any issues of the former.

Hope I did a good job contributing! It's my first drug report :)
 
2.4mg put me in the ICU, so be careful my friends. Catheters and breathing tubes are a bitch.
 
I have just been wading through some of this thread. @Brandasaur, have you managed to kill yourself yet?
 
Why did you end up in the ICU? Was it due to psychological or psychosomatic conditions or actual physical side effects from ingesting the drug?
 
A few weeks ago I ordered 50 tabs of 25c, complexed, with each tab containing 1000ug (1mg).
This is the second psychedelic I have ever done in my life. Two months ago I got my hands on blotters of acid; my experienced friends concluded it to be acid though nowadays you never know. I did acid three times over six weeks, the first time one tab, two for the second time and three for the third time. The reason why I did two and three tabs was because I had just started taking Remeron/Mirtazapine 15mg which dulls the effects of psychedelics as it acts on the 5-HT2 receptors like other anti-psychotics.

I had stopped taking Remeron almost a month after starting to take it because of side effects; I slept too damn much! The last time I took it was December 16th. The first time I dosed 25c was one week later on the 23rd. I took half a tab, 500ug, buccaly. The come up was quick and not disorienting in the least bit and began at +0:40. There was the usual suspects of things warping, breathing, brightness of colors, visually strong ++ or light +++ with the body load being significantly less than what I experienced on LSD. There was a little bruxism and muscle stiffness as well as distortion of temperature senses. I couldn't move quite normally, felt more like trying to walk on DXM. There was a lack of emotional connection and intimacy like I had experienced on LSD; this drug was very superficial. While I did have somewhat of a grin, I felt almost nothing as far as the reported euphoria. When I went to the bathroom to piss, and stared at the wall, I began to see OEV patterns. It wasn't fractals but it was more like a wild tribal pattern that changed between red, green, and blue hues. It went away as soon as I looked down to flush. I didn't close my eyes long enough to experience CEVs until I went to sleep, but I was so tired, I was able to sleep about 2-3 hours into the trip. Must have been the effects of the Remeron still in my system.

The next night I took the other half of the tab. Bright colors, trails, mild warping and breathing. Visually a light ++. The body load was not as bad as the night before, and there was more of a mood lifting feeling with the light stimulant effects. Nothing to write home about though. This trip was probably 30% weaker than the night before. The most significant visual effect I noticed was the pattern on the tiles in my bathroom sort of taking up most of my field of vision if I rested my eyes and concentrated enough. Basically the lines between the tiles disappeared. That's pretty much about it other than the mild breathing.

The other night, December 31st, I took a whole 1000ug tab. At +0:20 I was coming up hard and fast, like being launched out of a cannon. There was no nausea at all, and it was actually a fun energetic race to clean my room and sit down before the effects fully kicked in. The trip became so overwhelming that I was definitely at a super strong +++ (Or ++++?) I lost the sense of time, the sense of self as well. I was an observer to the world, sort of in movie mode. The visuals were absolutely crazy, RGB fluttering shadows all over the place. I was talking with my mom face to face in the unlit hallway, and her hue was changing and she appeared to be warping but like the other times I tried 25c, my head was clear and I was calm and collected. No worries. Got to me room and text was going crazy! Everything was buzzing around like sparks of electricity. It looked random at first but the patterns actually were repetitive. My peripheral vision was filled with random shadows with different colored hues. There was somewhat of a cerebral feeling going down my spine and my body felt some euphoria like the come-up of an MDMA trip. It didn't last long before the body load became over whelming. My muscles became tense and I couldn't help but do some Jeet Kun Do inspired stretched like Bruce Lee to get the tension out. It helped, but the tension never fully went away. It was like the body anxiety of LSD. This was probably because I was in my room on my laptop, not doing anything at all. I think if I went for a walk, things would have been different. I did get the feeling of my nerves flaring, and I was finally able to control the way my body felt which was a relief, but it was too little too late. After the peak which was at about +1:40, the trip was downgraded significantly to the lame, superficial trip like the last two times. There were visuals and body load but the experience was nowhere near as awesome and overwhelming as it was while peaking. The CEVs while peaking were amazing, 3D, bright, with a sense of depth. It was like a visualizer going along with the music. There were OEVs. I could see Shiva dancing with a ring of balls all around her rotating. After the peak there were strong residual effects of visuals but nothing too substantial. No fractals, but instead the usual tribal hue-changing pattern when staring out at a wall.

Tonight I took another 1000ug tab, and had the same experience as the first time I took 500ug, only I didn't start coming up until +0:55. Same experience though. Every time I tripped it was much more intense for the first hour or so than the last few hours.

All in all it was an interesting experience, but it's very superficial and novel. I bought 25c because I enjoyed LSD but thought it was too damn long. Ironically, my great experience with it was too short-lived!

I had no physical issues with 25c. No vasoconstriction to note, except my mouth was really numb from the tab. Since I was sick, my nose was still stuffed. Music was wonderful and really set the mood, but I did not quite feel the euphoria and emotions that others reported. At least not for so long.

I'm considering dosing again in a few days, maybe doing 1.5-2mg max, buccaly. What are the physical dangers of doing so that I'd have to look out for besides vasoconstriction and hypertension? This time I'll be smoking hash with my trip which should take care of the latter, and I haven't noticed any issues of the former.

Hope I did a good job contributing! It's my first drug report :)

You last dosed yesterday and have been dosing repeatedly over the course of about a week. This is too much, you are building a strong tolerance and you will stop getting significant effects from the drug if you don't give it a break. Wait at least 2 weeks, possibly longer before attempting to dose again. Shitty, I know, but that's how it works with these drugs.
 
Yeah, I'm going to take a break. I have so much of this stuff that tolerance isn't quite a big deal for me, though I guess there's no way to know what the side effects are and what physical issues could manifest..
 
Got that right, bruh. All of the phenethylamines derived from the 2,4,5 substitutions make me feel poisoned. They are all rather crude 5-HT receptor agonists which cause a range of unpleasant effects in addition to the psychedelic ones. I have a bunch of them and they all are completely undesirable to me because of the unpleasant side effects. I have read in the TCB-2 thread that it doesn't cause nausea at all and only minor shakes in the hands. No vasoconstriction was mentioned either. Granted it was only one person's account, the compound being still so rare, but it sounded like the fact that it is not a regular amine has cut out most if not all of the unpleasantness. His description also indicated that there was possible CNS stimulation like LSD, which is lacking in all regular phenethylamines. I think the only two usable RC psychs are probably TCB-2 and jimscaline, both having the amine functions replaced by other structures which make them fit the 5-HT receptors much more accurately. Although the NBOMEs are cheap and readily available, I have zero interest in ever using them again. Nausea and full body shakes and no euphoric stimulation whatsoever is not an attractive combination.

Please excuse my complete ignorance for chemical things, but are the 2c-x drug series considered to be in this category of 2 substitutions or w/e? i really have no idea


all nbomes make you feel fucked up because theyre substition things? the reason i was looking into 25c is cuz of shitty 25i side effects while many numerous reports i've read people said 25c felt way cleaner than 25i. specificaly this "brain frying" sensation seems to be associated with 25i in specific



does 6-apb count as one of these drugs? what about DOC? 'm just generally curious if these are worth a go or if theyre 5ht agonism or w/e is too high?

thanks in advance
 
If one was to be able to acquire blotters with a 50/50 split of a low dose (125mics of each) of both 25C and 25I would anyone advise against proceeding?

I and the others considering saying yes to this have involved ourselves with these chems before

I would also like to tell you all of a very interesting experience I had during the summer while using this chemical in combination with Ketamine...

To measure the material I simply placed 30mg of the material into a small glass vial and dripped exactly 100 drops from a squeeze dropper (the kind on natural supplement/LSD vials) the idea being that each drop would be equal to 300mcg and there by easily dosed ect...

The story begins on a lazy Sunday at around 1pm, me and a few friends had been ingesting K for a few days and had, until this point, forgotten all about the vial of 25C I had left at home in the fridge... upon collecting the vial (at this point the vial had around 10 drops left) we set about administering it carefully into one another nostrils (there were 4 of us) we figured the best thing to do on this warm sunny day with a head full of RC's and a few G's of special K on our persons was to sit in a meadow nearby, and sit we did...

around 15 minutes after administration (and a swift 120mg(ish) line of k) I began to feel an inner warmth, a body-load of dreamlike or floaty mass, almost like a cloud and this feeling began to drift all around my body eventually reaching the peak of my cranium, it allowed me to let go a sigh of... for lack of a better term , Blissful giddiness the feeling began to become like electricity, a tingly surge of natural energy almost like a comfortable adrenaline surge with no discomfort and no confusion. it was wonderful!

After about 30 minutes of pleasant conversation with my similarly delighted friends I began to see the visuals becoming something extraordinary! the clouds danced overhead as if there was some kind of psychedelic hurricane of purples, reds and greens emerging, it only made me feel happier and more at peace, thoughts were no longer racing through my head as I usually find, just a calm humming, the humming of nature around me...

A few rails of K later I begin to leave my body right there on the meadow... my god, just thinking back to this moment gives my entire body an almost orgasmic rush of pleasure.. yeah ok that bit sounded a bit strange but it really is the only way to describe just how whimsical this separation of mind and body became, I was floating in a sea of color, it was almost as if the K had allowed the hallucinations to fully take over my being and remove the distractions of the body I was bobbing around in this colour sea in a warmed blanket of air...

I then hear my friend calling my name as I descend from the sea, I give him a slow look of dumbstruck awe, laugh and give him a hug (apparently I was just staring into the distance smiling and sighing in a positive manner) the evening continued with more K, more talk of semi spiritual matters (not to try and dampen the conversations we had but they were more based on the overload of creativity than logical impulse which is why I include the 'semi') and a few joints of some local herbs. it all ended peacefully reclining in one of my friends houses nodding off into the k space.

I would rate this chem up there with my others (4 aco dmt, ketamine, DMT, Opium, LSD) and with all the main comparisons being with LSD I just thought I would add that I for one prefer 25C to LSD, I realise it is more likely to cause harm (to the misguided) but I just felt the amount of time it lasts me (usually tends to be around 5 hours with 3 hours or so of plateau, LSD is too long for me in my exp) coupled with the complete lack of anxiety I have felt using it just makes me like it more... some may call me an idiot or whatever But I like this chem and I think further research should DEFINITELY be done with this here molecule...

Thanks for reading my long (and first :D) post
 
^ Do you have a title for the trip report? Trip reports belong in the "Trip Reports" forum as the name suggests, since it's easier for people to know where to look for them when they're all in one place.

I can split your post and send the trip report part off to the Trip Reports forum and then edit your original post to include a link to it so people here can still see it if you like, but to do that the title of the thread needs to be: (Substance / Dose) - Exp Level - Creative Title.

Would I be correct in assuming & reading that (Substance / Dose) - Exp Level for your report would be:
(25C-NBOMe / 750ug, Ketamine / Repeated) - Experienced (?)

If not if you could correct that it'd be great - and if so, all that's needed is a creative title for your report and I can send it over.

(Bear in mind that forum thread titles are only allowed a maximum of 85 characters, and this includes the (Substance / Dose) - Exp Level part.)

Thanks, and welcome to Bluelight! :D
 
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Woops, sorry about that!

I just read a few small reports earlier in the thread and assumed it would be alright...

Yeah that seems about right for the dosage of the report.

Thanks alot for that, I don't really mind about the name... 'meadow of dreams' or something to that affect :p

do you think these tabs would be safe? 125mcg each 25c and 25i? there seems to be little info on the safety of mixing these 2 chems
 
sweeeeeet, I figured that it'd be fine but input from the online community can't ever go a miss now can it!

Do any of you guys enjoy the NBOMe's an unexpected amount? I for one was very surprised the first time I used them thinking they would be another 2c type RC (in my opinion some fairly bland trips after much use) but I was blown away and they really do contend for my favorite trips ahead of acid (of course being 18 I do not doubt that I may have never even taken real lsd)

However I am still yet to re discover mescaline for a comparison
 
Just received a bunch of 700mcg blotters, which is sort of annoying me now because that seems like a pretty high dose to take. And I thought of chopping them up, but unless I chop em in half, what would I do with slivers I chop off? They're absolutely tiny blotters.

Plus, I have a bunch of friends who would like some too, but I can't imagine trying to explain to them why they shouldn't ingest the entire thing.

I feel like half (350mcg) might be not enough to really have the experience you're looking for. Is 700 really too much? I feel like 1mg+ is where shit can get a bit risky. Really don't wanna risk anything, and I feel like redosing with psychs never works out too well.

Also, what adverse reactions come from a bit too much? Not like full on overdoses of ridiculously miscalculated amounts, but like in the 1mg-5mg range. I hear of people being hospitalized, but what really happens? I know it's more than just too intense of a trip, as this seems much more dangerous than too much lsd or too much shrooms
 
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