The Big & Dandy 25C-NBOMe Thread (part 2) ver. "My skin feels like lightning"

[slo mo]

This thread has had some interesting comments, and proves everyone can react differently and that products quality and dosing can have an influence. I have never had brain fry or anything remotely resembling such while coming down from NBOMe's. Perhaps your batch was tainted? Either way, if it was that negative, just stay away and listen to your body. Everybody reacts differently and there is no guarantee that your blotter is as pure as my HCL or some other blue/greenlighters etc which is always concern with RC's. Did you lay the blotters yourself? I don't even know if I would ever try a blotter again unless from a certain source, way too risky these days.

 

[virgilwoods]

It's not like we know NOTHING about this class of drugs. 25c is similar to the 2C series molecularly. We understand that psychedelics will cause vasoconstriction and seizures. But if you had anti-convulsants and vasodialators then you should be fine if you decide to go a little higher than Mt. Fuji?

I don't think there's much else of a risk. With any drug, you need to do a tolerance test. Take a light dose to see how you feel on it. Then up the ante if you think you can handle.

Bluelight is not a forum for use prevention, but for use responsibility.

 

[slo mo]

It's not like we know NOTHING about this class of drugs. 25c is similar to the 2C series molecularly. We understand that psychedelics will cause vasoconstriction and seizures. But if you had anti-convulsants and vasodialators then you should be fine if you decide to go a little higher than Mt. Fuji?

I don't think there's much else of a risk. With any drug, you need to do a tolerance test. Take a light dose to see how you feel on it. Then up the ante if you think you can handle.

Bluelight is not a forum for use prevention, but for use responsibility.

What anti-convulsants are the ones of choice with the NBOME series? Can the vasodilator be taken after vasoconstriction occurs and how long will it take to be effective? I prefer not to take any meds but I agree that they are valuable in certain circumstances. Titration is the important HR skill, then keeping an eye on tolerance , scale , purity and ROA.

What are some of the higher doses you have had with 25C and what ROA?

 

[Anon0631]

It's pretty simple, just like any drug some people like it and some don't.

If you like phenethylamines then you will probably like 25c-NBOMe and if you don't like phenethylamines then you won't. If you have never tried a phenethylamine then I suggest you start with a low dose and judge it by its own merits rather than comparing it to ergotamines, tryptamines, etc.

Personally I think that 25c compares favourably to 2c-b and that's quite a compliment. Mind you, 25d compares favourably to DOM and that's a far greater compliment IMO.

 

[sheekle]

these reports describe how i felt exactly 100%.http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/number/16822166/fpart/all/vc/1

"i have been friend on many many drugs for 6 years straight now but this stuff was different. It damaged my brain. It's all better now and it took about 3 weeks to get back to a decent page.

That stuff was sooo nasty to me. I would never consider it again. I dumped out a vial of that stuff right onto the road."

yay somebody quoted my brain fry cumpilation thread


i feel famous


P.S also man you're report of 25c reminds me EXACTLY of how i felt on 25i with the tweaker/junkie feeling etc etc. i was actualy JUST searching around looking to buy some 25c off the internet because i've read numerous reports of people saying it felt a lot cleaner to them than 25i did. At first i swore of ALL NBOME's after a few fucked up 25i experiences. then after reading all the convincing reports I switched that to just swearing off 25i but being willing to try other nbomes.

now your report has me double thinking that.


I almost feel like you got 25i that was mislabeled as 25c or something

 

[ShaggyFin]

(according to what I've read) This stuff seems less forgiving (in dosage) than the two similar 25I molecules I have read about. I know this is 25C just making a comparison. And it seems to be stronger, in that it's "more psychedelic less candy-flip" but weaker in that it's "less insightful, etc"...

Does anyone know if there is a NBOH of this molecule. Maybe it would dose better?

 

[MindlessBilly]

Just received a bunch of 700mcg blotters, which is sort of annoying me now because that seems like a pretty high dose to take. And I thought of chopping them up, but unless I chop em in half, what would I do with slivers I chop off? They're absolutely tiny blotters.

Plus, I have a bunch of friends who would like some too, but I can't imagine trying to explain to them why they shouldn't ingest the entire thing.

I feel like half (350mcg) might be not enough to really have the experience you're looking for. Is 700 really too much? I feel like 1mg+ is where shit can get a bit risky. Really don't wanna risk anything, and I feel like redosing with psychs never works out too well.

Also, what adverse reactions come from a bit too much? Not like full on overdoses of ridiculously miscalculated amounts, but like in the 1mg-5mg range. I hear of people being hospitalized, but what really happens? I know it's more than just too intense of a trip, as this seems much more dangerous than too much lsd or too much shrooms

To answer your question about 700mcg being too much, personally i find it too little i had 600mcg tabs that i was putting them up my nose rather than buccally as with past experience ive found buccally got me nowhere & the onset was too slow... Anyways my preferred dose is two tabs one in each nostril, so i was over the 1mg mark and found no issues what so ever as far as adverse reactions went, sure i was tripping extremely hard. I have used over the 1mg mark numerous times with tabs from different sources & had no issues nor have my mates.
The highest dose ive had is 2.4mg at once, mind you this was a day after doing 1.2mg but i still noticed no bad side effects. The trip was pointless i had visuals but they lacked any sort of colour or intensity due to the rapid tolerance...
Sure the trip can be quite intense & i imagine that can play a part on hospitalization but i dont see much danger in a 1mg dose... Im not saying go jump in the deep end, play it safe and know your own limits but yeah you should be fairly safe with a 700mg dose.

 

[acousticman420]

can someone help me out with this one?last week i watched my buddy drop 11 hits of lsd at once, then about 5 hours in he took 4mg of 25c.i was being a sitter for him but the 25c got past me,but he was ok....kinda,for about three hours he kept talking about how he had to help the spirits in the room pass on but he was barley makin sence.plus its been 5 days and he just went to sleep yesterday.i think i may have lost a friend.

 

[sheekle]

can someone help me out with this one?last week i watched my buddy drop 11 hits of lsd at once, then about 5 hours in he took 4mg of 25c.i was being a sitter for him but the 25c got past me,but he was ok....kinda,for about three hours he kept talking about how he had to help the spirits in the room pass on but he was barley makin sence.plus its been 5 days and he just went to sleep yesterday.i think i may have lost a friend.

Uhhhhhh

Bring him to the hospital maybe?

 

[acousticman420]

He went yesterday and we just got the results even though there keeping him there.umm i cant really spell what its called but he basically lost most of his short term memory.its like he's on repeat,he knows who everyone of his friends are.he's been using psyc for 20years now so i gues it was bound to happen.but this man was a visionary.

 

[acousticman420]

insightful trips on 25c?

has any one had any real mind exploring or insightful tripps on 25c?

 

[Anon0631]

Hmm, 25d is better for that. A little like ayahuasca but much easier going.

 

[wayab]

you could have, but it's mostly just fun times. there are alot of reports out there you can check them out.

 

[danharper01]

25C is amazing.

 

[virgilwoods]

What anti-convulsants are the ones of choice with the NBOME series? Can the vasodilator be taken after vasoconstriction occurs and how long will it take to be effective? I prefer not to take any meds but I agree that they are valuable in certain circumstances. Titration is the important HR skill, then keeping an eye on tolerance , scale , purity and ROA.

What are some of the higher doses you have had with 25C and what ROA?

1mg Buccaly is my highest dose. I think 1.5mg would be the absolute maximum for me but I think the desired effects for that dosage would be better off achieved from other psychedelics. As a novelty with friends, 1mg would be a strong max dosage to hit. I don't see a reason to do any more than that in a social setting.

 

[sheekle]

Two questions about 25c:

1. I've heard of at least a few people say the found 25c to be "cleaner" than 25i. Can anyone attest to this? I always found the comedown off 25i-nbome to be more similar to what I'd imagine a meth comedown to be like than any acid comedown I've ever had, to the point that I found the side effects a bit worrying (even at lower doses).

2. 25c is more potent that 25i apparently, would 700ug of 25c roughly be about the same intensity as a mg of 25i?

 

[redredred]

Two questions about 25c:

1. I've heard of at least a few people say the found 25c to be "cleaner" than 25i. Can anyone attest to this? I always found the comedown off 25i-nbome to be more similar to what I'd imagine a meth comedown to be like than any acid comedown I've ever had, to the point that I found the side effects a bit worrying (even at lower doses).

2. 25c is more potent that 25i apparently, would 700ug of 25c roughly be about the same intensity as a mg of 25i?

1. Can't say I've ever had a bad comedown off either substances, apart from not being able to sleep for a while. No bad side effects etc just slowly faded out.

2. I'd say that's about right... Maybe a bit higher on the 25c.

 

[Sepher]

Two questions about 25c:

1. I've heard of at least a few people say the found 25c to be "cleaner" than 25i. Can anyone attest to this? I always found the comedown off 25i-nbome to be more similar to what I'd imagine a meth comedown to be like than any acid comedown I've ever had, to the point that I found the side effects a bit worrying (even at lower doses).

25C is a bit less stimulating than 25I, not so adrenergic I think so yes, it doesn't generally have quite the same body load, and there isn't quite as much residual stimulation I think also. I did suddenly develop a quite severe strain on the heart ( or so it felt ) after a high dose trip ( 1.5mg ) with 25C that I never even saw coming, quite concerning, well into the comedown even though there'd been nothing much in the way of a worrisome body load coming up or during peak, so you'd still want to treat with appropriate caution even so.

2. 25c is more potent that 25i apparently, would 700ug of 25c roughly be about the same intensity as a mg of 25i?

It's the right kind of ball park I'd say. IME visual intensity of 1.5mg 25C was about on a par with 2mg - a little more than 2mg 25I ( high doses there, not a recommendation! ) I've seen blotters about that are 350ug 25C compared to 500mg 25I as typical doses ( or fractions of a dose taking more than one ), seen similar comparisons reading around here. See Anon's and Azzo's posts on the NBOMe Comparison thread about halfway down and on for others' thoughts on it.

 

[psy997]

Just got this 12 hits, am suspecting it's NBOMe though. *removed blotter image*

The reason I ask, is because I received black and white blotter not long ago here, and am suspicious this might be the same batch, different part of the sheet.

 

[IamMe90]

swallow one. If it doesn't work, it very well might be an NBOMe, if it does work, it's not an NBOMe, simple test.