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The Big and Dandy Salvia Thread (Archived start - 1-20-08)

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Ok, so I decided to try Salvia after reading many trip reports and FAQ's here and on Erowid. I ordered 1 gram of 5x extract and I was very excited when I came home today to find it sitting on my doorstep. I got myself all geared up for this deep, introspective, spiritual trip that I have been reading about and was quite nervous. I packed about 90mg into a bong and ripped it. I took it all in one hit and held it for about 25 seconds. When I exhaled, I got this sinking sensation in my head that lasted for about 10 minutes and that was it. I felt nothing after that except tired.
What's the deal? Is this stuff kind of like pot in the respect that you have to do it a few times before you really get it? Or what? Did I do something wrong? I ate a fairly good amount of acid(8 hits) 3 days ago, does this have anything to do it?
Thanks, any help would be appreciated.
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I took some 5x salvia once and got a 1 minute trip that was so intense I HATED it and wanted it to stop. I'll never do that shit again... but the way I did it is just like you so I don't know what the deal is...
 
Pretty_Diamonds said:
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Also should I have some pot handy? Or is it unnecessary?

I've read that you need to keep it really hot, glass pipe? Would rolling papers do?
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Now these questions can be answered. :) Though if you read through the thread, you will find most of the info.

Having weed 'handy'- its very unlikely you'll even be aware you have hands- maybe twin umbrellas extending from your wrists- but as salvia is over so quickly, and so intense, I doubt you'll feel like a smoke during it. You won't be 'here' to do it anyhow.

The rumour is the salvinorin a (active pricniple in salvia) needs to burn at a higher temperature then your average bic can produce, but thats pretty much incorrect. Just apply the flame for a long time and hold the smoke in. I have heard of people smoking salvia joints, but I would think it'd be pretty ineffective. A bong works well for me, a glass pipe may be good. Howver, you do want to minimise the amount of parapahanelia that you have, esp. the hot stuff- in a frenzy of rejection, I've thrown my bong on a sub woofer which was pretty lame.

As to potency, get 5x for your first try, as your less likely to over-dose. Be safe. :)
 
Sorry. >.<

Haha, okay thanks.

I can't find any 5x, what about 6x? Is it that much of a difference? Also what's the difference between the "Non-Standardized Salvia Extract" and the "Standardized Extract"?
 
well 5x is 5 times as potent as the plain leaf and 6x is 6 times, so no not much difference.

standardized means every bit of extract has the same potency by weight as all the rest of the extract in the bag. non standardized some chunks of extract are more potent than others.

i'm a big supporter of developing a relationship to salvia slowly and gently, so my suggestion to you starting out is to buy plain leaf, or if you must buy extract smoke it in very small quantities and then very slowly increase the dose if your experience indicates that is a good idea.

as willow said, the idea you need a hotter lighter than your average bic to smoke salvia is just wrong, i don't know how that got started. fire is fire, and fire is a lot higher temperature than the vaporizing point of salvinorin a. if the plant matter in the leaves or the extract is burning then the salvinorin is definitely getting vaporized.

you can smoke salvia joints, or bong or pipe or gravity bong or vaporizer or anything. the most powerful salvia would be pure salvinorin a, the number of extraction processes necessary to obtain that would vary based on the intial potency of the leaves and how well-executed was the extraction.
 
Salvia and anxiolytics

Hi

what are your opinions on combining salvia with anxiolytics, say 1 ml GBL (equivalent to 1.6g GHB) or 10mg Valium? The guy who´s thinking of doing this is familiar with the latter drugs, but hasn´t got much from salvia before and is gonna try with a stronger extract and a water pipe.

Found a little bit about this on the salvia thread, a few mixed opinions - benzos will help relieve the fear but might make you forget more of the trip. Anyone with anything to add?

Cheers!
 
I would in my opinion not take any GBL or downers with Salvia, I think it takes away from the experience just like how speedy drugs make things to frantic.
 
I've found that, for me, taking a benzo or having a few drinks before salvia makes the trip more giggly and more of a blur. I usually just end up laughing at nothing until I'm in pain and can't laugh anymore; it's fun, but I don't take anything from the experience. I have no experience with GBL though so I can't comment on that.
 
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Make sure there's a trip sitter present, I wouldn't be suprised if one would be more likely to move around and do something potentially bad while combining the substances in question.
 
Salvia combinations

The best, weirdest experience with salvia I had was on two (well three) other drugs at the time. Me and my friend both ate two pink beaver baums (likely containing cocaine). We went to a my house where we snorted a couple big bumps of K. Now we're stumbling all over the place and I load up the bong with an 1/8th gram of 20x salvia. I became completely immoblized, the world became 'bent' and as I absorbed more and more of the world I too became bent into a sort of doughnut shape. I felt fully connected to the world.

Anyone else have any profound salvia combination experiences?
 
Well I have only done salvia on its own but plan on taking some with a bit of DMT once I do the Tek for it. Anybody tried mixing Salvia with N,N DMT?
 
dilated_pupils said:
Has anyone noticed you get a folding sensation when you trip? Everytime I've done it, whether it being a rediculously strong trip, or just a moderate trip, I've had this feeling as I were being folded, usually accompanied by voices and such as well. The only one of my friends who tripped with me reported the same kind of feeling. I usually use a person flipping through the pages in a book, and me being part of every page, as an example.
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hmmmm you described the feeling I get exactly, not only the feeling I kind of see it happening.
 
egor said:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=59083

enough said about salvia combinations
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Wow that was you? I remember reading that a while ago. It is one of the most amazing trip reports I have ever read. I could hardly believe it but the poem at the end convinced me it really happened. (I hope you understand my initial doubts considering how different the experience was)

Feel like sharing any more thoughts or reflections on that experience or how it affected your life, from this vantage point however many years/months it is now from when the experience happened? Regarding the last line of the report, have you discovered the reason?
 
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