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The Big and Dandy Salvia Thread (Archived start - 1-20-08)

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I am shpongled said:
.....I don't think a sublingual dose of any potency will produce breakthrough effects.
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I must disagree. I don't know what the ratio of hardheads is to softheads, but as I said above, tincture can tear me away from this world, and off into Salvia Land without any problem.

I'm sure there are other lucky people out there, and besides, there seems to be a belief (albeit anectodal) that "reverse tolerance" applies in many cases.

Perhaps SuperDankyBuds, you could try to increase your sensitivity by taking a number of small doses over a period of time. It would be interesting to see what might happen.

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has anyone ever experienced extreme shortness of breath during the salvia experience? it feels as if my lungs were half their size and oxygen was really heavy. it was extremely nerve wracking.. until i peaked and had other things to worry about. like the fabric of reality peeling.
 
Why Can't We Trip?

I have now attempted to smoke salvia three times. We did everything right, taking several hits using 10 X extract, a bong, and a torch lighter. Why can't we trip?
 
I don't know what/if you're doing something wrong. Some people just take a few attempts before they breakthrough. It also sounds like you're doing it in a bad setting and with a bad mindset. Try these tips:

1. Do it in complete silence and in dim lighting/darkness.
2. Use a bigger bowl so that you can put more salvia in it, the recommended doseage I read on the back of a 10x I bought was 100-150mg and I could not break through perhaps because the bowl on my bong was too small.
3. Exhale all of the air from your lungs before taking the hit of salvia and hold it in aslong as you can, ideally over 30seconds.
4. Try some relaxation/breathing techniques or meditation beforehand.
5. If all fails, buy some stronger stuff.

Keep in mind that the potency of Salvia extract is not constant, it depends on the concentration of Salvinorin A present in the plant the extract is made from so each batch can vary greatly. Also tell your friend not to talk to you whilst you are inhaling, it can really throw you off a breakthrough experience if you have someone sitting there constantly asking you if you're feeling anything yet.

Ideally he should be out of sight and out of mind so perhaps just close your eyes. Hope you have better luck in the future. I've never been able to breakthrough on 10x and it took me 2 attempts with 20x before I brokethrough but now I can manage it almost everytime.

Slavia tolerance can build very quickly so if you fail at an attempt, you may want to wait until the next day or a couple of days before attempting it again. Remember don't take Salvia lightly because it is legal.
 
ok i got some 10x standardized salvia extract, loaded it in a cone, and smoke it, held it in till i felt like i was gonna die, then exhaled, waiting...waiting....nothing.


hmmm, i said, maybe i needa do more, loaded another cone, as packed as i could possibly make it, smoked it, waited..

NOTHING.

what am i doing wrong? do i REALLY need a blowtorch type lighter or something?
 
How big is your cone? Qutie alot of bongs don't have a cone big enough for a sufficient dose of 10x. Did you feel no effects at all? I recommend you leave it and try tomorrow and pehaps make your own bong with a big ass cone, also using warm water supposedly helps things along a bit.

A torch lighter is best because salvinorin A has quite a high vaporisation point, somewhere around 235 C I think.
 
its not a large cone, you could puty our pinky into it to where the nail stops atleast, i actually didnt mention how much i smoked, it was like... 5 cones all up and all in fairly quick succession

so yeah... what to do huh? im gonna buy a torch lighter soon, hopfully that will actually work, otherwise im ringing up the place i bought it from and getting a refund.

oh and i felt a bit spaced out for like, a minute, but besides that..

when i get the lighter, im gonna try and attach my pipes cone to my bong, the one on my pipe is quite nice and big, 1.5cm+ diamater.
 
I have bought salvia before (extract), that has just totally not worked for anyone- It may have something to do with age.
If you cant trip with your Sally D I'd suggest looking to buy it from somewhere else (maybe diff. brand too).... Once you find a place with "good" salvia, Itll all be ok.

I bought some normal leaf from one place (first time), and smoked a fat cigar of it- that gave me some pretty trippy effects (time/speed distortion, general trippyness), but i have also bought 20x that did NOTHING.

The best I have ever bought was UNFLAVOURED (flavoured ones seem much more susceptable to 0 potency) 20x 1g.

I mean, 1 medium bowl of that (normal pipe), I was... working in an office behind a shop that managed a huge clock face that was made of 12 "me"s that was part of a huge machine made from childrens toys.... The strangest sensation was being on a clock face 12 times, and inside it! Yes, classic mind-blowing salvia trip =]
 
I have salvia...

I have about 1/2 an ounce of savlia leaves....i'm a newbie when it comes to this. I have searched erowid and this forum for preparations to make me experience what the Mezatacs experienced. I have not found the information that I needed.

If anyone can tell me the best way to prepare the leaves it would be much appreciated. I TOTALLY understand that smoking is the best way to acheive the trip that I am looking for. The first question you will ask is where I got them....no source is given here but i did get them online.

I need your help guys. Generally I am the one giving advice but this time I am asking the question. I am going to smoke some straight from the bong that I have right now. I will hold it in for about 20 seconds because that is what has been recommended on most sites. Don't tell me UTFSE because I already have. I need help..........
 
spun420833 said:
if its just leaves, sit there and hot box the bong till you can't smoke it anymore.
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Ummm we just smoked about 1 gram of it very quickly in a bong. We are feeling alot different. But I still haven't acheived what I am looking for...

Any more info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Spunizzle...
 
well, got an update...smoked 3-4 grams of it...back to back...held it in hella long and defienitely feel like the first time i got stoned. its great......(i think)...

I still want to trip...still need help

one love
 
buy some stronger extract of it at a headshop it will get the job done quick.
 
yeah, intense, out of body experiences are hard to get using just leaves, as opposed to 5, 10, 20x extracts. It's nice to smoke, and nice to chew, but i don't think you'll get to "enjoy" the full on experience with just leaves.
 
You may not have to smoke a bunch of leaf. There are a few extraction methods on erowid, but they all call for 100g of bulk leaf, still, you may want to look into it. I know you can also chew slavia leaf with some lime juice to get the desired effects. IMO, smoking salvia(not extract) is actually not that effecient.
 
dont bother with the leaves, its not going to work the way you want it.

sooooo buy the extract :) save a headache
 
I've done salvia a few times now (3-4 times) by smoking some 20X exctract using a small water-pipe. Each time, I packed the bowl fairly well, but didn't have the luxury of a torch-lighter, so had to make do with a bog-standard disposable. Using this method, I've not yet had the breakthrough experience I've been hoping for, the most I got was some fairly interesting fractal OEVs and the back wall of my living room becoming a large, grassy sand dune.

I've recently purchased a 10ml bottle of salvia tincture and was wondering what kind of success any of you may have had using the tincture as opposed to smoking. I've had the bottle for several weeks now and have been itching to try it but I'd like to get a few opinions first as to the effectiveness of salvia tincture, just so I know that I haven't flushed £20 down the toilet.

Cheers.
 
I have broken through with 5x salvia using the gravity method (bucket), with a standard size cone. I use a torch lighter though and burn it to the highest temperature possible. Hold it in for 30 seconds. The first cone will give you some nice CEV. The second cone (for me at least) has put me straight into salvia space. And there is never any warning!
 
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