thestudent14
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Thats a great post Spacejunk
Bongs aren't exactly a complex construction. It is pure laziness that people resort to using garden hoses and plastic bottles. If you were really concerned about the health effects it doesn't take much to source a metal stem, or a heat resistant cone piece.
wait....how did you know about that?best cut down on the mod love, otherwise they'll form a union, start striking, and demand a raise above minimum wage...
^ I don't know how you smoke man but if you smoke a lot and/or are having a sesh with some mates then it doesn't take long for the cone and stempiece to be piping hot. Smoke is hot enough as it is to probably cause some damage through homemade pieces without even accounting for the fact that more bongs tend to get packed and smoked before the apparatus cools down. If you really think that isn't causing people to inhale things they wouldn't through a glass bong, things that are probably quite harmful, then I honestly think you are kidding yourself. How do you know if all you are burning is plant matter when the inside of a garden hose isn't visible as you punch a cone? The way I have seen hoses and plastic bottles distort through being used frequently as a bong tells me all I need to know about whether it is safe or not... I'm not even saying I am a saint because I have definately smoked through homemade pieces in the last year because that is what was there, but theres a difference between being an impulsive idiot who disregards HR and being in complete denial about whether said activity is likely to cause you harm.
Guys just how healthy is a bong made out of a plastic coke bottle, a garden hose but with a proper cone peice?
I only ask because I need a bong but now can't buy one anymore.
^ arrogance? i don't see it.
have you not observed the way homemade plastic PET bottles warp when melted into bongs and repeatedly used?
think of the most filthy, repeatedly used gatorade bottle bong you've ever seen - has it retained its original shape?
some people may make the effort to drill holes in glass bottles...but they'd be the minority, i'm pretty sure - in this country, anyway. i accept that there are definitely safer ways to consume cannabis than to combust it in any sort of bong or pipe - but professionally made bongs are a step-Qup from crude makeshift billies. that's the point i'm trying to make here.
i think if you're going to say that smoking through soft plastic bottles with holes melted in it is safe, the onus of proof is on you.
drug mentor (to my way of reading it) is saying that it probably isn't safe. not such an outrageous claim, is it?
my understanding of soft drink/water bottles is that they are not designed to be reused - because the plastic begins to break down with continued use, and eventually you end up drinking the particles.
ever noticed how water bottles - if you reuse them a few times - lose the robust structure they have when you first buy them?
think about adding heat to this and consider the breakdown of the plastics that are being inhaled....
If you live in the city I wouldn't even breathe the air. Life is a risk, you just have to weigh up how much you like to gamble.
You're narrowing the subject down to a single homemade smoking device.When you weigh up the risks between a whole lung full of smoke vs a small increment of plastic then the difference is vast. You only have to see the black scum sitting around the mouth piece after a single session to realise that all manner of crap still sucks through the water chamber. Ash and plant debris would be my main concern, even if I was sucking through a hose with a hand made foil cone on the end. I'm not saying there is no risk from using a plastic bottle, but apart from creating the stem hole you are hardly heating up this material while smoking a cone.