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Tackling the bigger issues - Gay education to kids

Chaos Butterfly said:
Being gay or not is not a choice.

Living the "gay lifestyle" however is a choice.

Who you love, and how you act do not have to be completely intertwined.

However, that said, some people make excellent parents, some don't. Some of those excellent parents are straight, some are gay... it doesn't and shouldn't make a difference.

Build a little bridge, all through the kindergarten, and get the fuck over it.

CB.

o.k., so there is a "lifestyle" surrounding being gay. what does that include ? because my lifestyle has nothing to do with my sexuality.

and that comment about kindergardens is sinister at least. to think about homosexuality and kindergardens sickens me.

its just similar to all this "tweenies" stuff. are we trying to adultify children to the point where they have no childhood left ?
 
The children are the future. The older values and beliefs and what's hot and what's not will die as people die. Black people were thought of as repulsive in previous times. Children had to be educated against this in order for society to evolve.
 
Someone said it on the first page but you're really twisting the subject around here Life-a

The original idea was should different family units be in a story book, not Life-a's opinion on glbt and how sexuality affects your lifestyle.
 
endlesseulogy said:
If you take that line of argument shouldnt kids get a choice in relation to everything else they are taught then? Where do you draw the line? Plus I think one of the advantages of informing people at this age is that they can take it in before they gain a clear understanding of what "repulsive" is.


i think that kids should be learning the three r`s in school, not alternative lifestyles. maybe there could be an alternative curriculum, i dont know. but not until high school. kindergardens ? who ever came up with that idea needs to have some "education" themselves.
 
joannie_mhm said:
Someone said it on the first page but you're really twisting the subject around here Life-a

The original idea was should different family units be in a story book, not Life-a's opinion on glbt and how sexuality affects your lifestyle.

twisting the subject ? im sorry, but i was beginning think that it was all about your "rights". well thats how you see it anyway. and until you realise that its not...

how it should be taught is how it is "naturally". not "my" politics. kids dont need to know about that either.
 
endlesseulogy said:
The children are the future. The older values and beliefs and what's hot and what's not will die as people die. Black people were thought of as repulsive in previous times. Children had to be educated against this in order for society to evolve.

oh geee... being of a particular colour is not a, or a part of your lifestyle either. children dont need to be educated re this issue either, children are innocent and have no prejudices. the argments here are getting flimsier by the post. yes, children are the future and if we dont show them the responsibility we hold for them and when they are old enough to undrestand, the same towards them, well, we will have a future.
 
life-a said:
twisting the subject ? im sorry, but i was beginning think that it was all about your "rights". well thats how you see it anyway. and until you realise that its not...

how it should be taught is how it is "naturally". not "my" politics. kids dont need to know about that either.


MY right is to have and raise a child with my boyfriend, and I believe that if they're going to love and nurture a child then the gay couple next door is equally deserving of that same right.
 
has somebody got a hammer and chisel ?

YOU DONT HAVE "RIGHTS", YOU HAVE ... oh god, why is it so hard.

when you bring a child in to this world, you have to give it the best chance in everyway possible.

gays CANNOT do this. to make a point, single mothers who choose to rear a child alone are of the same value. hello... you have to have sperm in the fucking first place.
 
life-a said:
when you bring a child in to this world, you have to give it the best chance in everyway possible.

gays CANNOT do this.

You suck at life. Have a nice day :)
 
life-a said:
when you bring a child in to this world, you have to give it the best chance in everyway possible.

gays CANNOT do this.

If the gays are two loving parents I feel they can.Better that,than a 'mother' and 'father' who don't love the child,only tolerate them and/or teach them to be bigots(Egs: racist and homophobic).

The truth is how do you decide who should and shouldn't be parents? I think the criteria that matters the most is "to love and care for the child,to teach acceptance of others differences and only be intolerant of peoples intolerance".Whether the parents are straight or gay.


On the issue of "gay education to kids":-

If the kids are being taught about families,then gay relationships should be mentioned because types of families come in all shapes and sizes.Kids should be educated NOT just hidden from the realities of the world.
 
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life-a said:
single mothers who choose to rear a child alone are of the same value. hello... you have to have sperm in the fucking first place.

I call upon DQ, Doppleganger and anyone who has been raised by a single mother to step into the ring !!!!

My father use to beat the shit out of my mother, who often was in hospital. Funnily enough she did a far better job when my father left and became a single mother. The parental unit of her alone provided a far more respectable, loving and stable environment to live in.

I want to add a vile insult, but everyone knows that anger distracts from the point. So Ill control myself.
 
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life-a said:
has somebody got a hammer and chisel ?

YOU DONT HAVE "RIGHTS", YOU HAVE ... oh god, why is it so hard.

you dont have rights, you have responsibilities to ensure that no body is descriminated against because of who they are no matter how 'repulsive' to use your word, you find them and their lifestyle.

to ask the question again and hopefully get a reply this time, what is it that you think that a 2 gender parentage has got that is so important that a same sex parentage cant provide if both relationships are loving and caring?

oh by the way, mc wigga i love your signature
 
^you won't get much in the way of a reply now he's an ex-bluelighter, unless he signs up with another name :\
 
We scared him off...
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he's an ex-bluelighter who was on his 4th or 5th trolling account.
 
[QUOTE='lil leecie]he's an ex-bluelighter who was on his 4th or 5th trolling account.[/QUOTE]

Was it a mod who kicked him off ?
 
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