Mr.Scagnattie
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Lowering the dosage via an ROA will provide more euphoria than higher doses. The sweet spot for those effects, if you'll get them at all, is <2mg's SL (and the conversions factoring in BA for the other ROA's)
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Lowering the dosage via an ROA will provide more euphoria than higher doses. The sweet spot for those effects, if you'll get them at all, is <2mg's SL (and the conversions factoring in BA for the other ROA's)
hatrix
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I'm rather disappointed by buprenorphine. Little euphoria and the opiate high is almost non existent sometimes. It's like I have to try to feel it. The nod, however, is usually almost always present after an hour and half or so passes, and continues on into the next morning, rather annoyingly.
Not worth my time honestly, I get a much better high from hydrocodone.
This is coming from someone with not much opiate tolerance, looking to use recreationally obviously. Dosages range from ~0.5mg up to ~2mg.
Not worth my time honestly, I get a much better high from hydrocodone.
This is coming from someone with not much opiate tolerance, looking to use recreationally obviously. Dosages range from ~0.5mg up to ~2mg.
Mr.Scagnattie
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A lot of people are bummed out by bupe.. it works well for some people with no tolerance to opiates at all, but for the most part, recreationally it's pretty weak.
DrinksWithEvil
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Holy fuck my doctor said a script of generics suboxone would be 280 Wtf.. Thought generics were supposed to be cheaper
hatrix
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Well I had no tolerance when I took it. Like literally barely any at all, it had been weeks since I had an opiate.
Took my last line of H at around 1p, last 1/4 of OP 40mg at around 8p, so in about 20 hrs from now I plan to drop Suboxone film for the first time.
Current use; Up to 1.5g H daily, or 120-150 Roxi. All snorted.
Have 30 x 8mg total Subs for now. Another mtng w Dr on Mon to see how I am doing, then I guess another 90 Sub films will be prescribed.
Not sure I need that many, but I might just stock up and then taper down over the next few mos.
Anyway, I wanted to bump this thread as I plan to read it more thoroughly once I have started this Suboxone regimen.
Current use; Up to 1.5g H daily, or 120-150 Roxi. All snorted.
Have 30 x 8mg total Subs for now. Another mtng w Dr on Mon to see how I am doing, then I guess another 90 Sub films will be prescribed.
Not sure I need that many, but I might just stock up and then taper down over the next few mos.
Anyway, I wanted to bump this thread as I plan to read it more thoroughly once I have started this Suboxone regimen.
ryand123
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So my phone wont let me use the SE, but im sure a similar version of this Q has been asked before. I dropped a 500mcg piece of suboxone film on the ground yesterday and just found it, its been ~27hrs. I wanna IV it (cuz thats just what i do.) but i wanna stay 'somewhat' safe. So can i "sterilize" the shot with a drop or two of ISO mixed in? Is this viable at all? Im not worried about harm to veins, just infection from the sub being on the ground. Thanks!
DrinksWithEvil
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If I used h last night at 6pm when should I be able to get back on my subs... It was only 20bu ks worth
I took my last piece of OP at 8pm last eve, and I am waiting 24 hrs bc that seems to be the average time. I have seen some say 12 hrs, some 36, most say 24, so 24 hrs it is.
20 hrs in now, counting down the last 4. Fingers-crossed I don't go into WDs, and it feels GOOD. Can't wait.
FTR - Starting as of about noontime I am having many normal WD symptoms.
Sweaty, sneezing, nose-running, bathroom stuff, achy, very cold and very clammy, irritable, etc etc etc, so I def think I will be good to go at 24 hrs.
3.5 to go.
Sweaty, sneezing, nose-running, bathroom stuff, achy, very cold and very clammy, irritable, etc etc etc, so I def think I will be good to go at 24 hrs.
3.5 to go.
Mr.Scagnattie
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Wait till you're sick.. however fast that happens for you.
If you've been stabilized on suboxone and just used once it should be really easy getting back on the bupe.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Placed the film about 15 min ago. I feel pretty good. Not high, per se, just kindof leveled out. I guess that's the point. I do have another 16mg per day tho, so...
These films are kindof a pain as you aren't supposed to swallow, talk, etc etc, but oh well. Just worried I'm not getting full effect. At least when snorting something I know it's all going up.
Feeling pretty good so far!
Placed the film about 15 min ago. I feel pretty good. Not high, per se, just kindof leveled out. I guess that's the point. I do have another 16mg per day tho, so...
These films are kindof a pain as you aren't supposed to swallow, talk, etc etc, but oh well. Just worried I'm not getting full effect. At least when snorting something I know it's all going up.
Feeling pretty good so far!
ryand123
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Does anybody know the answer to my question? its pretty important. im dope sick as hell and this is the last piece of sub i have and really wanna IV it due to the small amount i have.
I do not, sorry.
Mr.Scagnattie (post #405) seems to be extremely informed, and ACTIVE. I'm sure he'll pop in here soon and maybe have an opinion.
RE; My Sub film. ~50 min later and all is very well. Very nice, smooth/balanced buzz going.
24 hr from last OP dose = Good to go.
Mr.Scagnattie
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The only real "safe" way to IV suboxone is to use a micron filter.
Glad to hear it went well.
cj
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Iving in nonsterile conditions is somewhat dangerous but I have done worse and been fine. Its a gamble and your mileage will vary
Not so great today.
Felt so good last night I couldn't sleep at all. Didn't sleep. Just laid from 4am - 9am, then got up and took;
9a - 5mg
11:45a - 2-3mg
Just now - another 2-3mg
Not feeling that great at all today. Anxiety very high, kindof sweaty, out of it mentally (but no sleep). I assume this is just the normal WDs creeping in, along with no sleep, and the Subx is fighting it off. Would that be a correct assumption?? I have never gone straight from heavy opiate use > Subx, only used Subs alone for their own buzz. I figure some of the normal WD symptoms will creep thru once in a while for the first few days?? Yes? (anxiety, insomnia, etc etc)
Just think it was a mistake to take at 8p. Actually, the mistake was to take another 3mg at 12:30am after the original 8mg had me great from 8p > 12:30. Dumb.
SkagKush
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Withdrawal will 'poke its head through' when you are doing a Bupe induction, but you can treat the other symptoms with other meds ( if you wish ). Your body's chemistry is finding its new norm, and what you are going through is to be expected.
Thanks for the feedback.
I ended up taking about ~20mg yesterday (2.5 8mg films). ~12mg Weds night (1.5 8mg films). Last opiate was 8pm Tues eve.
So, last night I slept OK. Not great at all, but probably 5 hrs max. Woke up feeling fine, much better than yesterday morn. So fine that I didn't take anything this morn. Had bfast w family, took off for work (had to visit a client, work from home - field ENG).
Anyway, didn't even take any before the visit (and I always used to blast before heading in), and was in-plant for about 5 hrs dealing with issues, dealing with other ENGs, handling business. I just decided I was going to see how I did and I felt great. I assumed there was a lot leftover flowing thru my veins from the 20mg I took yesterday, but overall I had no WD feelings and felt great. Was very inspired and encouraged by the way I felt today, like I might actually be able to not take Subs too much and ride this out pretty quick/painlessly.
So, get home tonight and decide to take 4mg around 8p just to chill. I am chilling, but I don't feel 'high' really, just a little more relaxed. I think I will sleep much better tonight than I have the past two. Anxiety WAY down, no mind racing, no physical ills, etc etc. I have W/D fully 3 or 4 times since early 09, and this time I've been at it daily/all day since mid-November.
I don't know, maybe I have my hopes up and the Sub is working more than I am aware, but I am now hopeful that maybe I can use these 30 x 8mg Subs to taper over the next 45 days or so. Do that rather than getting on a 90 8mg/mo script which is the direction I feel the Dr wants me to go, or I guess, is the direction I know I can go if I want. I started this whole Subx thing fully intending to just switch my high and keep going (((legally & prescribed))) rather than off the streets, but now I think I may just give it all up. I have been giving all of this a lot of thought over the past 9-10 days leading up to me seeing the Sub Dr on Mon.
Plus, my insurance is only covering a small amount until I eat up some deductible, so I am thinking I might just get about 60-90 8mg total and use them over the next few months to come off very slowly, rather than just switching to Sub full-time, which is what was in the back of my mind. Even tho I have the $, Don't know if I have the desire anymore. Think the desire to just be done is emerging more and more the more I mull over this whole situation. Been off and on for about ~5 yrs, with much more time ON. Think it might be time to consider my exit strategy, and put this shit to bed once and for all, using this Dr and these Subs to do it.
I ended up taking about ~20mg yesterday (2.5 8mg films). ~12mg Weds night (1.5 8mg films). Last opiate was 8pm Tues eve.
So, last night I slept OK. Not great at all, but probably 5 hrs max. Woke up feeling fine, much better than yesterday morn. So fine that I didn't take anything this morn. Had bfast w family, took off for work (had to visit a client, work from home - field ENG).
Anyway, didn't even take any before the visit (and I always used to blast before heading in), and was in-plant for about 5 hrs dealing with issues, dealing with other ENGs, handling business. I just decided I was going to see how I did and I felt great. I assumed there was a lot leftover flowing thru my veins from the 20mg I took yesterday, but overall I had no WD feelings and felt great. Was very inspired and encouraged by the way I felt today, like I might actually be able to not take Subs too much and ride this out pretty quick/painlessly.
So, get home tonight and decide to take 4mg around 8p just to chill. I am chilling, but I don't feel 'high' really, just a little more relaxed. I think I will sleep much better tonight than I have the past two. Anxiety WAY down, no mind racing, no physical ills, etc etc. I have W/D fully 3 or 4 times since early 09, and this time I've been at it daily/all day since mid-November.
I don't know, maybe I have my hopes up and the Sub is working more than I am aware, but I am now hopeful that maybe I can use these 30 x 8mg Subs to taper over the next 45 days or so. Do that rather than getting on a 90 8mg/mo script which is the direction I feel the Dr wants me to go, or I guess, is the direction I know I can go if I want. I started this whole Subx thing fully intending to just switch my high and keep going (((legally & prescribed))) rather than off the streets, but now I think I may just give it all up. I have been giving all of this a lot of thought over the past 9-10 days leading up to me seeing the Sub Dr on Mon.
Plus, my insurance is only covering a small amount until I eat up some deductible, so I am thinking I might just get about 60-90 8mg total and use them over the next few months to come off very slowly, rather than just switching to Sub full-time, which is what was in the back of my mind. Even tho I have the $, Don't know if I have the desire anymore. Think the desire to just be done is emerging more and more the more I mull over this whole situation. Been off and on for about ~5 yrs, with much more time ON. Think it might be time to consider my exit strategy, and put this shit to bed once and for all, using this Dr and these Subs to do it.
I do think that sometimes W/Ds, at least for me, are mind over matter. If my life is right then WDs aren't as bad. I've been fortunate that I have been able to keep it together pretty damn well for the past ~5 yrs thru this madness, so that part is kindof ok.
Also, re "mind over matter", the fact that I just have all these Subs gives me some relief. I think if I had nothing, and was going 1000% cold-turkey, which I have done every time in the past, then it would be much more difficult. Just having these is a relief by itself, so much so that I may not even need them. They may be enough to get me thru, guess we'll see. I am thinking 60 total might be the magic number tho. Still trying to figure it out.
Also, re "mind over matter", the fact that I just have all these Subs gives me some relief. I think if I had nothing, and was going 1000% cold-turkey, which I have done every time in the past, then it would be much more difficult. Just having these is a relief by itself, so much so that I may not even need them. They may be enough to get me thru, guess we'll see. I am thinking 60 total might be the magic number tho. Still trying to figure it out.
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