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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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i bought two from my friend and had no idea how potent they were or anything about them. I can take 20mg of methadone and that will be 100$ enough, i would have no urge to take anymore than that. These strips were 8mg i put one under my tounge it dessolves in about 8-10 minutes. Afterwards i start feeling pretty good but i want more a.k.a that ridiculouse nod you get from opiates. so i take the other one and start takeing a couple shots of jim bean (about 8). i took this medication around 1am and only remember feeling really fucked up at diffrent times when wakeing up. i litterly fell asleep from 3am to 4pm the next day believe it or not? iv'e done lots of research on this drug but haven't caugh on to much yet was 16mg a ridiculouse dose to take when haveing pretty low tollerance to opiates/opiods??
 
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i bought two from my friend and had no idea how potent they were or anything about them. I can take 20mg of methadone and that will be 100$ enough, i would have no urge to take anymore than that. These strips were 8mg i put one under my tounge it dessolves in about 8-10 minutes. Afterwards i start feeling pretty good but i want more a.k.a that ridiculouse nod you get from opiates. so i take the other one and start takeing a couple shots of jim bean (about 8). i took this medication around 1am and only remember feeling really fucked up at diffrent times when wakeing up. i litterly fell asleep from 3am to 4pm the next day believe it or not? iv'e done lots of research on this drug but haven't caugh on to much yet was 16mg a ridiculouse dose to take when haveing pretty low tollerance to opiates/opiods??
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16mg's is a high dose no matter what.

And especially if you're looking for euphoria out of it, bupe provides more recreational value at lower dosages. <2mg's sublingual.
 
I just picked up my script of Generic suboxone tabs.. cheap as hell to fill with insurance. They are harder than subxones to split in half, but once dissolved they seem to be much cleaner. I feel a little wierd headache but it might just be dehydration. As far as effects go i thinki feel slightly more of a buzz off it than i do on suboxone, could be all in my head though. Has anyone had these yet?

Ill post what it looks like in a minute. These are brand new and just came out in the last 2 days.

Here they are. Brand name is actavis. Imprint is 155 and a rainbow/arch/sun peaking from behind clouds which is the brand logo for actavis. I included a standard 8 mg suboxone tablet for comparison. If someone tries to sell these to you dont worry you are not being ripped off.

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You heard it here first folks.

edit: out of curiosity I wanted to find out what they taste like so I put a tiny piece under my tongue. it is extremely sweet, tastes more like a smartie than a suboxone. I think people will prefer the taste to the original suboxone. I'd say it tastes closer to subutex. I didn't take a big enough piece to pick out the flavor, once more people start getting them I'm sure someone will figure it out.

edit 2: ok so I've analyzed the flavor a little more and I've come to the conclusion that it is lemon/lime citrus flavor. definitely a nice change from the orange vomit flavor of the stop signs. I think you guys are gonna like these. when you dissolve them in water (takes a little longer to filter unfortunately) the resulting liquid is almost clear.for those who are sick of injecting orange shots and dont want to get the strips these new generics will be very much appreciated.
 
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So basically i been reading the suboxone booklet i got from the doctor and from what i read the effect of naxolone is pretty much like this.
"When administered intramuscularly, combinations of buprenorphine with naloxone produced opioid antagonist actions similar to naloxone, This finding suggests that the naloxone in buprenorphine/naloxone tablets may deter injection of buprenorphine/naloxone tablets by persons with active substantial heroin or other full mu-opiod dependence."
 
So basically i been reading the suboxone booklet i got from the doctor and from what i read the effect of naxolone is pretty much like this.
"When administered intramuscularly, combinations of buprenorphine with naloxone produced opioid antagonist actions similar to naloxone, This finding suggests that the naloxone in buprenorphine/naloxone tablets may deter injection of buprenorphine/naloxone tablets by persons with active substantial heroin or other full mu-opiod dependence.

Who injects there bupe intramuscularly? is that even a worthy test? May is not the word that was described to me when perscribed suboxone. The doctor pretty much said "If you abuse the strips you will experience PWD. This does not seem like sufficient proof to just be forcing people with no health insurance to buy this much more expensive medicine. If you ask me this is not much different from the effects of bupe if you already have opioid s bound to your receptors and take bupe.
 
Over the last week, I've lowered my dose to about 6mg a day, sometimes only 4mg. Surprisingly, he jumped on the Sub train with me and I've never been happier. Of course there are side effects, but nowhere near as bad as facing eviction, suicide, shame... the whole life that comes along with painkiller addiction. I know it's been less than a week, but my life feels like it's mine again. Suboxone has been a miracle drug for me and I hope it stays this way for a long time. Thank you for being there for me when I needed someone to talk to. Isn't it funny how easy it is to open up to complete strangers? :)
 
If you have opiates in your system when you take buprenorphine intravenously the buprenorphine instantly knocks the opiate off the receptors and causes brutal precipitated w/d. this has nothing to do with the naloxone, it's more to do with buprenorphines competitive ability to bind to receptors. The reason why naloxone was added is not to deter abuse, it's to give the illusion that it deters abuse while giving doctors a reason to prescribe it over generic subutex. this is the same reason they made the strips and discontinued the pills, because the patent ran out on sublingual bupe+naloxone tablets. They came out with the strips and jacked the price up on suboxone in an attempt to get people to switch over to the strips so that when the generic comes out (which you can see in my post above has just happened) doctors have another reason to keep people on the strips. Reckitt and Benkiser have invested billions of dollars in suboxone, and the future of that company relies on people buying name brand suboxone.

they are so desperate to keep people buying their suboxone they petitioned the fda to stop any companies from coming up with a generic by claiming a study which they commissioned found that the tablets were more likely to be taken by small children who think theyre candy. of course in the mean time they continued to sell their suboxone tabs as is proving they dont give a shit.

so the point is the naloxone does little to nothing to prevent abuse, and injecting suboxone and naloxone while already maintained on suboxone will not precipitate withdrawals. the only time it would is if you do it to soon after your last use and that would be because of the bupe not the naloxone.

if your interested in learning more about the dark underbelly of drug patents and how they relate to suboxone/naloxone, read this article.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/edsilve...strategy-is-really-about-patients-or-profits/
 
Quick question: Will weed get me kicked out of my Sub program? I'm sure it was in my system for the initial drug test, and I have my one week follow-up appointment on Monday. Am I ok to smoke? I have some of the sweetest green I've ever come across and it is the weekend... is it worth it?
 
I would not risk it. all bupe clinics have different policies on failed UA's. the drug is prescribed and indicated for opiate dependence, therefor as long as you don't pop for opiates they will most likely discourage it but not take any serious action. at my clinic I went for 18 months without a failed UA and then came up dirty for coke, morphine/heroin, thc, and bupe. The doctor said he was surprised by it because i was doing so well up to that point. the normal policy is if you drop for opiates you have to come in once a week and pay for a full office visit each time to be tested until you're clean. each visit costs a couple hundred dollars cash so this does a good job motivating people. In my case because I live a half an hour away and need to get rides from my family he cut me a break and told me to go to a diagnostic lab and get one done there 2 weeks later instead of weekly visits. He also raised my dose back to normal since I was tapering. I think most clinics will give you more suboxone if your dirty as opposed to cutting you off completely (do no harm).

but still I wouldn't risk it. you'll find out how they react but in general it's better to be on these doctor's good side. all the hard work I did to get those 18 months paid off and saved me over a grand in office visits, so as you can see you're better off getting the benefit of the doubt with your doctor.

but thats neither here nor there. I wouldn't call that a drug testing question because your not asking how to beat a test or anything specific about drug tests, more just looking for information on how your clinic might react to you smoking bud, but a mod or admin might not agree. if you want a definitive answer you should ask your doctor. if you live in a liberal medical marijuana state the chances are higher of them looking the other way, but you wont know until you ask.

the bottom line though is that there are people dying to get into these clinics and because of the dea limit imposed on bupe doctors and the growing opiate problem for every person on suboxone maintenance there's a thousand wishing they were, so if your not trying to get off drugs you should think about stepping aside and let some one who is take your place
 
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down508 said:
If you have opiates in your system when you take buprenorphine intravenously the buprenorphine instantly knocks the opiate off the receptors and causes brutal precipitated w/d. this has nothing to do with the naloxone, it's more to do with buprenorphines competitive ability to bind to receptors. The reason why naloxone was added is not to deter abuse, it's to give the illusion that it deters abuse while giving doctors a reason to prescribe it over generic subutex. this is the same reason they made the strips and discontinued the pills, because the patent ran out on sublingual bupe+naloxone tablets. They came out with the strips and jacked the price up on suboxone in an attempt to get people to switch over to the strips so that when the generic comes out (which you can see in my post above has just happened) doctors have another reason to keep people on the strips. Reckitt and Benkiser have invested billions of dollars in suboxone, and the future of that company relies on people buying name brand suboxone.

they are so desperate to keep people buying their suboxone they petitioned the fda to stop any companies from coming up with a generic by claiming a study which they commissioned found that the tablets were more likely to be taken by small children who think theyre candy. of course in the mean time they continued to sell their suboxone tabs as is proving they dont give a shit.

so the point is the naloxone does little to nothing to prevent abuse, and injecting suboxone and naloxone while already maintained on suboxone will not precipitate withdrawals. the only time it would is if you do it to soon after your last use and that would be because of the bupe not the naloxone.

if your interested in learning more about the dark underbelly of drug patents and how they relate to suboxone/naloxone, read this article.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/edsilve...strategy-is-really-about-patients-or-profits/
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Well said, I couldn't agree more. R&B has so many doctors in thier pockets. I member telling my doctor i could not afford the strips...it cost 58 bucks to get 6 of them....i was buying subutex off the street for a smaller price when i bought my whole month supply worth. Once i told the doctor that i wanted on subutex she was instantly against it.
I told her i was unemplyoed and my mom was paying for it out of pocket and she/we live of her single pay check.
So i told the doctor that i probably cant continue to come b/c its just to expensive and when i asked her about generic she told me its to easy to be abused and she wont perscribe it. She then told me if i want to buy them off the street illegally then thats fine the choice is up to me. More and an ultamadom if u ask me, I either take what she gives me or dont get anything at all. Then when i ask for a refund she tells me she already spent time and evaluated me...Yea im sure the 5hours it took her to read me 4 pages in the suboxone booklet must have been hard. These doctors are pushing the films b/c they are getting a much larger kickback $$ from R&B.
 
yes man weed stays in ur system for a month and honestly just tell them you been cutting back. Tell tyhem you used to smoke like a quarter or a half a day now your down to like 2gs or something. But from what i hear a lot of these doctors are cutting down on it. I used to be able to get away with it at my old doc...wish i still went there. I pissed dirty for bud for a year straight.
 
_Minerva_ said:
Quick question: Will weed get me kicked out of my Sub program? I'm sure it was in my system for the initial drug test, and I have my one week follow-up appointment on Monday. Am I ok to smoke? I have some of the sweetest green I've ever come across and it is the weekend... is it worth it?
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Really depends on the doctor. Some are cool with it and others are sticklers.
 
At what rate are people tapering down from bupe, or what is the best rate to taper down at ? Im hoping to start off at 8 mg. Would it be @ 1 mg per week ? Provided all clinicians eventually agree i'll be switching to bupe from around 200 mg of AH7921 plus poppy teas as and when a top up is required.
 
Hello everyone. Ive been a long time visitor on the site and ive never seen this question asked before...but i wanted to know. I IV my suboxone(usually .5mg x3 a day) and have had nothing but amazing resaults. Ive been doing this for 4 years now and have experienced nothing but positive effects. Now the question that i have is that i always IV my sub when ive been drinking. I always always get a "rush" when im drinking but when im sober i rarely feel any rush what so ever. So does the alcohol make the bupe rush more pronounced or is it just me ?
 
This drug is way overprescribed by doctors. I'm not undermining your 6 month habit. But i've been on and abusing opiate/opiods for a little over 4 years before getting on subs. 2mg's is a strong dose and i seen people doing massive amounts of smack and able to stay well on 2-4mg's a day of bupe. Do a little more reading into bupe, it's potency and start low! You will be thankful down the road. I'm sorry but 6months is not a long time in retrospect to people using for years and years and telling you to that a low dose works alot better then a high dose.

This is by no means a dick sizing contest. I understand everyone is different. But this is no like other opiods in the sense of taking more equals more benefit. The exact opposite is actually true. If multiple people are telling you this. I'd maybe consider it being more realistic then a doctor who i doubt has taken this drug. So take experience from people who been there for what you will. I personaly think people who are using it as holding more weight then someone who hasen't taken it.

this is bluelight. If more bupe was better for ya. Don't you think there would be people snorting 32mg's a day and such?
 
bluelephant said:
Really ! ? What sort of opiate doses were you taking beforehand, if applicable ? Ive been using for over 6 months so i think an 8 day taper is way too fast.
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if your tapering from buprenorphine maintenance it needs to be longer, but if you're coming off an ah7921 and poppy pod habit anything more than 2mg isn't going to make a difference, other than increasing your tolerance and lengthening the withdrawls. there is a ceiling effect. a doctor will try to get you up to a high dose in the beginning so it takes longer to taper, but that is for financial reasons. if you want to start on 8 mg you should be aware of the fact you will probably stay on suboxone for a longer period of time.


so I figured an update is in order for the new generic suboxone I picked up. they are good for i.v. I fixed a shot earlier today and the resulting liquid was almost completely clear. it takes a little longer to filter than regular suboxone, but the final product seems much cleaner.

has anyone else had the new generic suboxones yet? I think a lot of people will start getting these soon and I'm pretty sure they're going to be popular.
 
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