Salvia, The Conveyor Belt & Other Common Themes

[Morninggloryseed]

Without getting into a long explanation (as its not needed), I've totally experience this (except I called it a newspaper printing roll) and its so crazy that this appears to be a shared experience.

S.D. is amazing stuff.

 

[TRPPNASS_DSCOMONKE]

a bit O/T, does anyone have an idea of the shelf life of stored salvia? i assume a vacu-seal would be the best way to store it?

 

[orangelicker]

Hmm. I remember seeing a conveyor belt... it had cakes on it with ladies in pink suites singing and decorating them.

 

[Changed]

I've never heard of this conveyor belt phenomenon before, but now I am totally convinced that Sally D is even more special than I thought it was before...

 

[glassywear]

bet.

 

[psood0nym]

Yea that's what fascinates me as well.

I mean it's true that external factors can sometimes make thier way into dreams, (Tv shows, Radio, Parents fighting etc)

But how come we can move around our bed, sneeze, cough, fart, move the blanket around, and yet these factors don't seem to affect the dream experiance at all?

One thing to remember is that our body paralyzes itself during sleep (as not to act out the dream) so perhaps that's the reason we can block out external stimuli so easily.

I dug up another example of how environmental factors influence saliva trips. This is from the Big & Dandy Salvia Thread-Second Iteration in January 2008. There was a lot of talk about conveyor belts, ferris wheels and the like at that time.

People were on a rainbow-like path pushing strollers toward a door. They told me to follow them through the door; I moved over to the door (did I fly? at this point, my friends have told me I was talking outloud saying "open the door" and waving my arms as though I was diving through water). My friend was trying to fuck with me so he said out loud "no, close the door!"

Back at salvia land, I experienced a hand come out of the direction of my friend and hold the door shut.

I wanted badly to know what was behind the door. I felt as though my friend had intentionally held this door, the door to the meaning of my existence, closed. I remember feeling a terrible feeling against him as I often do get pissed on salvia trips when people talk, make noise or fuck with me at all. I get frustrated and yell. lol.

 

[glassywear]

glassywear

Is English your 2nd language? If so what is your native tongue? It might help us to make sense of what you say. The grammar, syntax & etc. are making it hard to interpret

Cheers

E

egoism should be avoided to get wide perspective because research. reader aspect, writer aspect, world aspect, culture aspect, <- those multiple, true aspect as abstract concept like true. in every case that is written. it is unfortunately finnish with me. i try normal english if i can.

 

[glassywear]

is this too scary?
OK, the abduction try was real. just a sixpack sensor.
i can not bear it, it is too scary alone, yesterday it was a block, once it was with a cop, sniff. (T).
those were first gray plain nice, then they realised it is scariest form, they are tentacle faces. They are too scary, totally too different. To pinks(adult) the pain is sometimes good, normal as bad. Them(clitoris-tentacle-faces), they know it is bad, but too different, they are not having same senses we humans have. But can have human sensors.

SD, white dotted dimension controllers, conehead look, two(2) independent. Pinks are superevoluted, they have to be super evoluted(size?), mighty or not.
Work as couples? Fucking housepets!

 

[glassywear]

How i get to bluelight status?
It should(has to, as better way nice little ihas whatever) be that As This,
come slowly though air. Little bit a time then fear removal. (if they want to communicate.) The blue is a warning sign to most. <- those test pain. humans can not bear the fact they are what they are, real. Then forget and nothing ever happened.

 

[glassywear]

I have permit to explain(it is not explosive, when some translates sumth aggaiv) this. I got memos. English language normal. It is going to be. it is about serious, i mean Serious, everything is good now, especially then. But how to succeed. as PM propably(because this is not for children to read it now). They are communists, as we are going to be if survive, about the planet Earth. Humans we are.

About meth, coke, cannabis. detailed, specified, (how to handle the evolution when it is global) believe me. please do not ban me now, (i am drunk now and some memos are in home, i write from library, going to get computer, it is not a longlast solution to only have meth and porn sex. it is serious.
The translation problems are related to time concept. With ehh, ermh, (i don't temorbow dzoyb). They want to know what humans like and no T. But the longlast solution is about drugs because humans enjoy them. And A big no, everything is stabile and it is drug obsessity, Me eat.

Developement stops and everything is nice feel, and longlasting good. Not bad, Good. It is permit from Anna, not fingerface. But they help when concepts are clear, they are totally different. me want no bad, it is good. and long time good. Otherwise it is drugfield and some porno that gets bad and then, again the middle age(T).

It's a big joke about hallucinogens, as they try some hay anyway now or later. Because interest or religion. Or visiting doctor explain why need what and then áfter a short comment. To get or not get more. Of what?

It is, a how to enjoy drugs for long, in this planet. Not to enjoy and then destroy this civilisation. Get it? Ha Ha ha. h. . . a . . . a.

Please someone proof normal citizens do not use drugs. Or do not want to know anything about them. And just build and build and build. Between meals.

 

[glassywear]

Without getting into a long explanation (as its not needed), I've totally experience this (except I called it a newspaper printing roll) and its so crazy that this appears to be a shared experience.

S.D. is amazing stuff.

This is stupid. It's not that serious . page 52-55. Also if like that, did you check the tortoise(turtle) television show? Crokodiles are egging and the proof of _evolution_. Fun is, but if ill non fun, but it is a FunFun thing to think as What! a pleasing is a try to get friends. (they get psychologicall burned). As(like same) , i try it! because they want Just it and then learn more and more. ego psychosis teaches more that a Acid Guru from, what kind of videos do you have about(because me is new) about the "Stars" of the famous writers, because i have checked them and they Are like abstractive of what is. Imagination just. "never been as close to a newspapper, "Hustler".
Heh.
Very well developed human being eh. who what gender?

 

[Changed]

what the hell...

 

[PillsburyDoughBoy]

ive only tripped on salvia once and i did not experience a conveyor belt like most say, but i did imagine sumthing moving slowly towards me (like a conveyor belt) that represented a mixture of pride and money (at this time i was dealing and my money was my pride, i know its sad) at that time i then swallowed my pride and almost choked on it. It took me a while (till long after dealing fucked me over) to realize that salvia was telling me that i had to end my obsession wiht money.

 

[psood0nym]

^So the thing that was moving toward you represented pride and money how? Sometimes in salvia trips, visionary content is simply accepted by the mind wholesale as signifying certain ideas despite the fact that the content doesn't possess any actual symbolic qualities that could communicate its meaning. I'm guessing that's what happened to you?

I think a lot of people read about how random and nonsensical salvia trips are and conclude the plant is simply a short-acting and hyper-visual dissociative deleriant. It's trips like yours, which seem to meaningfully incorporate thoughts and feelings into a salvia trip's bizarre narrative, that reveal it to be a truly visionary drug. Then again, maybe you're just trying to superimpose meaning over a very intense experience you feel must mean something after the fact. It's hard to say with salvia.

I do know, though, that one time when I was depressed, I thought I'd smoke salvia in order to break out of the downward slide and provide myself with a perspective where the depression would seem small or silly. Instead the whole trip consisted of severely elevated feelings of despair, with no visions or strange happenings at all. Heightening emotions as profoundly as salvia did that day was the sole forte of classical 5-HT psychedelics, I had thought. It only happened once, but that radical departure from it's usual behavior made me think that salvia must be a full-fledged, mind manifesting, albeit far left-field, psychedelic.

Since salvia is both an ego dissolver and a powerful somatosensory hallucinogen--with its fluctuating gravity effects, crawling skin tingles, and reports of people being zipped down their middle--I wonder how much of the integrity of our egos depends on a steady sense of the the integrity of our bodies i.e. as discussed, how much of salvia's visionary content truly is a direct interpretation of its physical symptoms and how much is added in by salvia's influence on other non-somatosensory brain systems.

 

[glassywear]

Checker of a safeplace in USA.

I wash cheching i safeplase in USA.
"do not look at them!"
"not in the asshole"

Evoluted pinks are many fingerlike space aliens. They are not. They have angled "finger", or branches, And have somekind of center. They don't show them totally. Fisrt had two ballhorns, cute pink ballforns. and the second next had a restricter (black handchoff), restriction two tentacle. It can be about gender or message.

continum tomorrow

 

[rickolasnice]

I wash cheching i safeplase in USA.
"do not look at them!"
"not in the asshole"

Evoluted pinks are many fingerlike space aliens. They are not. They have angled "finger", or branches, And have somekind of center. They don't show them totally. Fisrt had two ballhorns, cute pink ballforns. and the second next had a restricter (black handchoff), restriction two tentacle. It can be about gender or message.

continum tomorrow

You don't have to worry about them, they're actually there to watch over you.. to make sure you are safe. They're called the yoorfookd clan and honestly mean no harm.

 

[dread]

wow, what an incoherent post.

 

[General Patton]

I dunno, I'm really enjoying the slightly sensical nonsensicality of his writing... I really wouldn't mind if we kept him around as a study in abnormal psychology, I mean that's pretty much what' keeping the rest of us here, right?

I think a lot of people read about how random and nonsensical salvia trips are and conclude the plant is simply a short-acting and hyper-visual dissociative deleriant. It's trips like yours, which seem to meaningfully incorporate thoughts and feelings into a salvia trip's bizarre narrative, that reveal it to be a truly visionary drug. Then again, maybe you're just trying to superimpose meaning over a very intense experience you feel must mean something after the fact. It's hard to say with salvia.

I do know, though, that one time when I was depressed, I thought I'd smoke salvia in order to break out of the downward slide and provide myself with a perspective where the depression would seem small or silly. Instead the whole trip consisted of severely elevated feelings of despair, with no visions or strange happenings at all. Heightening emotions as profoundly as salvia did that day was the sole forte of classical 5-HT psychedelics, I had thought. It only happened once, but that radical departure from it's usual behavior made me think that salvia must be a full-fledged, mind manifesting, albeit far left-field, psychedelic.

Yeah, at one point this summer I smoked a bowl of potent extract after a long, sleep deprived week that started with my first 2C-Experience, and spiraled maniacally until the aforementioned SD experience... I didn't have visuals or anything of the like, just a total catatonic breakdown where the input from my senses was so mangled it became a constant feedback loop of non-understanding. As I came down I went through some kind of schizophrenic deprogramming where I saw my life from the perspective of three people close to me. Than "I" saw the previous week I spent fried on 2C-E from an extremely detached perspective that had me convinced I was a manic/obsessive shizophrenic by the time I was totally down.

It scared me more than anything, I mean even for a short period of time seeing your own life as nothing more than a series of random coincidences... Terrifying. Like your experience I thought that kind of vision was more in the league of epic doses of classical psychedelics. My friend had undergone a similar experience on a massive amount of 2C-E and a host of other psychs. So I guess you could say that was weighing on my psyche for the week, which combined with the sleep deprivation and dissociative qualities of SD made me jump to those tangents on the return to reality. But still, like most manic breaks it had the quality of being absolutely and totally convincing within that moment. I intended to break through that night and experience the kinds of things described in this thread, conveyor belts, dissociation, strange visuals and sensations. But to have your head ripped out of the matrix is something else entirely, and speaks to the classic visionary nature of the Diviner's Sage...

 

[quest92]

I had a brief encounter with something like this on mushrooms, it was very fun , but it had some of the same essence to it as what you all are describing.

I have only done shrooms a couple times, salvia more then that but I don't think there is anyway you can have any idea what salvia is like until you do it. Its unlike anything I've ever done, though i haven't done that munch.

I was glad I tried it and I did do it again but there is no way that I can say it was fun. Very scary shit. I can't even imagine how freaked out I would be being high for hours instead of 20 minutes.

I laugh at the people who learn its legal, hear it called a 'pot alternative' and try it.

 

[glassywear]

I wash cheching i safeplase in USA.
"do not look at them!"
"not in the asshole"

Evoluted pinks are many fingerlike space aliens. They are not. They have angled "finger", or branches, And have somekind of center. They don't show them totally. Fisrt had two ballhorns, cute pink ballforns. and the second next had a restricter (black handchoff), restriction two tentacle. It can be about gender or message.

continum tomorrow

i was trying to say.
I checked the safeplace USA. That #55 thing! Was not written by me. ! . But my invention! 8) Of the. Whatever, nice forum anyway!

The female can kick. It is a spaceship where to be. And thats a closed system. Get it? I can play chess with "someone" if imprisoment.
one year maximum because i'm too weak(in many way).
And i do not am a chess player.

Aliens are multiple of them if they want harm. If a loner comes it's good thing happening.

It was me in rental home and one cop came suddenly to use meth with porn "watch us you", and leg holders, i had a strangle wire and a straw in throat(there was a "holk" in it to breath, i had to put sperm in teeth and not watch movie and no meth for me from him. They(pinkfingertentacle dudes) came looking as gray protective suit(peppar man look) and face smiling. scary as hell or more like awful shock. They tested me with pain and possibly removed the "holk", it dropped to lung or stomach. Then euforia but just one spot in head, me or them wanted it so. Urgying couple? As a joke. (on sofa). the cop also was biting my shoulder to get "the feel of safety".
Possible hiv infection from liguor injection, heh. Excuse to tor situation was that the _cop_ was dog tor, that i didn't do and claimed it. Real reason unknown why did to me.

So, scared both victims, i did get help to this way, no fear, i wanted to look them, and they are clitoris like(atleast to me) those sensory tentacles and pushed my head to there_! i did see to space from opened "helmet door". Now they are insane, (not), hah! To that face i stucked, had "i'm unsure do i want to" That is my characteration of if and after torture. i call it betrayishm because world was bad for me and "i don't want to!" It is a term called martyr with those i rob and possibly beat and kick because to get liguor money.