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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

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We're drug users right though? We can all agree that it's not the government's job to hold your hand while you drink or drug, so it really irks me when people try to/succeed in limiting alcohol strengths. 95% is suuuuuper useful for benzo and cannabis solutions/tinctures. It's all I use. Only time I had some was in jello shots when I was 18, yeah that was dumb and I puked a lot but I never drank it again. Plus if you want it to be lower strength, add distilled water, boom 75%, 50%, 20%, whatever you want.

I'd hate to be forced to build a still. I have a friend that makes moonshine and it's nasty as fuck I never drink any.
 
The only time I ever got drunk off jello shots was while walking around Vegas.
You can buy them right at the counter of gas stations and shops. Very nearly blacked out. I was blipping. I would sorta come to in various places on the strip. Luckily all I had to deal with was a hangover the next morning.
 
Only sleep like 3 hours this aircon makes a horrible noise while turned off in this block of apartments bastards wont fix it. Gonna pop some ritalin soon stomach just a bit uneasy. Every morning for as long I can remember I always wake up with nasusa
 
Cream Gravy? said:
We're drug users right though? We can all agree that it's not the government's job to hold your hand while you drink or drug, so it really irks me when people try to/succeed in limiting alcohol strengths. 95% is suuuuuper useful for benzo and cannabis solutions/tinctures. It's all I use. Only time I had some was in jello shots when I was 18, yeah that was dumb and I puked a lot but I never drank it again. Plus if you want it to be lower strength, add distilled water, boom 75%, 50%, 20%, whatever you want.

I'd hate to be forced to build a still. I have a friend that makes moonshine and it's nasty as fuck I never drink any.
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I think we can all agree that it’s not the governments job to tell us what we can put inside our own bodies.
On the other hand the government does not feel that way. They see their job as one where they control us like we’re children, take away our rights and impose their archaic laws on us.

My girlfriends parents are coming to town tonight to visit us and they’re bringing us 2 big bottles of everclear. I havent seen them at liquor stores here for a while. I’m going to be using it to make various plant and mushroom tinctures.

For Benzo solutions I only use PG and it works great and taste pretty good (except bromazolam, that tastes like ass).
 
wrote 600 words a summary argument in 15 minutes assignment. Now reading through fuck loads of literature and writing up a pretty solid introduction so far for this research. I fucking love stimulants
 
Delsyd said:
For Benzo solutions I only use PG and it works great and taste pretty good (except bromazolam, that tastes like ass).
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Yeah agreed on both counts. Bromazolam does taste like ass. So does alprazolam, and bromazolam is literally just the chlorine on alpraz replaced by a bromine, so it makes sense. Apparently pure alcohol dissolves benzos more readily than PG, but I use PG also. Some be zos are really hard to dissolve in PG, like bromazolam took so long to dissolve at only 2mg/mL, it was ridiculous.

Etizolam at 2mg/mL in PG just tastes like PG, that is, sweet and cloying with a sort of weird burning sensation but not actual burning like alcohol.
 
Cream Gravy? said:
I'd hate to be forced to build a still. I have a friend that makes moonshine and it's nasty as fuck I never drink any.
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I had a friend with a reflux still that made the nastiest moonshine. I'm not sure if it was the reflux process itself, or the fact that it was made from sugar + champagne/turbo yeast as the wort (or whatever you call it). I also remember drinking countryside moonshine in Laos, just the nastiest stuff, made from rice. If any of you have been there, I'm sure you can relate.
 
in 2 hours and half hours got shit loads done. Really set me up well to write alot. This research is acutally quite interesting haha or maybe thats just the stimulants. Fuck me i need to get my hands on more ritalin somehow 5 is not going to last me the year. I will need to somehow find a private psychologist who will prescribe me rits.

My favorite class of drugs. I forgot i liked them more psychedelics. But using them properly as a tool is a slippery slope instead of abuse.

I reckon they should make it over the counter probably get more people away from meth. They have caffeine and nicotine legal so why not methyl phenidate or aphetamine you know stimulants that acutally fucking work way better and not shit.

But the addiction abuse is real.

Already got 15% of my work so done so far and i just started going to be a good day i was so stressed about falling behind but now I'm fucking ahead. As long as i stay clear of meth i will be okay meth is the most available drug even more than cannabis in NZ which is sad. I know people who can handle there use and live very good lifes with productive legitimate jobs families that never even know they on it but most people end up tweaking to hard.

Vaping is nice to get rid of ritalin anxiety. I do feel like stimulants are a missing part of my brain function. I do not get enough dopamine. but going to be hard to convince a doctor i have adult adhd when i look like a ex drug user.
 
I love caffeine and nicotines alright, but I could go without other stimulants for the rest of my life. I think they have the worst comedown of any drug, the heart palpitations and bruxism, it's just not for me. They give me insane motivation for a few hours and after that I get so scatterbrained, plus I'm drained of energy for days after. It's overall quite counterproductive for me.

One of my friends who uses a ton of methamphetamine has been trying to get me to do some with him forever. I'd done it before but only ever ate it as a functional stimulant. He does hotrails but there was no way in hell I was gonna do that, so I ended up just snorting it. He gave me a huge line and I knew it was way too much so I didn't do all of it, but it still gave me a terrible comedown. Promised myself I'd never use it again. The guy just can't grasp that he has insane tolerance and that you really only need a small amount if you don't do it everyday, but I figure that's most casual addicts in general. Methamphetamine especially, it's just so damn potent and long-lasting, definitely not something to fuck around with.

Just give me dissociatives, psychedelics, and some gabapentinoids and I'll be a happy camper.
 
Today is the 1 year anniversary of my dad's passing. In an hour my family and I are doing a family zoom and we're going to hang out and reminisce. My siblings are getting drunk, because before my dad got real sick, something he loved to do with us was drink old fashioneds and get silly. I told them I haven't drank in 3 or 4 months because I don't like how I am with it, and they were like whoa, really?? We always drink when we get together (granted it's always vacations and holidays).
 
Yeah, I don't really drink anymore either except with my family. I'm toning it way down with them, too.
 
I just am finding alcohol really unappealing, I have no ability to stop myself from drinking more when I start, and the last time I did drink, I barely even enjoyed it, it felt sloppy and toxic. Ever since I did the detox retreat this summer, I have only drank a few times, it really stuck, thankfully (since I relapsed on opiates and went through some other drug stuff with a brief benzo dependence and following phenibut dependence to get off that). And the hangover is so much worse than it used to be. It's the first time in a long time where I don't want to drink alcohol.

Actually I think I may be clear of the kratom withdrawal, too. I did every 3rd day a couple of times and I feel different now, it's been a day and a half since my last dose and I am not withdrawing at all, I just feel normal. Fingers crossed. :) If so, that means I am officially not on any drugs and have no dependencies. :) I mean I have caffeine every day but I'm alright with that. I haven't tripped for a while, a few months, but I am starting to feel like I want to. And I use weed occasionally to good effect. But those don't count, since I don't have problems with them.
 
perpetualdawn said:
I also remember drinking countryside moonshine in Laos, just the nastiest stuff, made from rice. If any of you have been there, I'm sure you can relate.
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Woah, visiting Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia is one of my life-long unfulfilled dreams. How was you experience there? Was it a long time ago?
 
So I have nothing going on today save for a doctor appointment at 3pm (I hate when it's in the afternoon, I sit around all day fretting) and then my wife will take her car to go have dinner with her family after I get home. Normally on a Friday like this I'd take drugs building up to a crescendo of a peak when she's away for a few hours, but with the appointment right before and me feeling a bit strung out from a hard night with Coke early this week and lots of booze, I'm having trouble wanting to do anything.

I don't wana trip really. I guess deep down what I want is the classic opioid/benzo combo, fun now, pay later lol... but I'm really tryna avoid that. I've been washing out old o-dsmt vials each night I go out to socialize this past week to keep WDs away. They're not bad now but I crave...

So, I guess I'm just not sure what to do to entertain myself tonight. Feeling melancholic, or perhaps apathetic? I want to be alone. I really wish I didn't have the doctor appointment today.
 
I am still experiencing the lightest of withdrawals, too. Or maybe just a higher level of baseline anxiety. It's hard to tell when it gets so mild. Kratom once with a small redose after an hour every 3rd day is barely any. Maybe just a bit of low-grade PAWS.

I spent the morning so far cleaning stuff up and making the house look a little nicer. I have an appraiser coming any minute, wish me luck. If my house appraises for what Zillow says it's worth, I'll be more than good. It could appraise for $25k less than that and I'd still be fine. 2 years ago it got appraised for $25k under what I need, but the roof was in bad shape, and the windows and doors were falling apart, and the upstairs toilet was broken, and since then I fixed those PLUS I got heating/AC and a wood stove, and property values have gone up. So I really should be good.
 
The appraisal went well I think. Last time I got it appraised it was an FHA appraisal and they were hardcore, made me fix a loose railing and step and came back a week later, tested every appliance, etc. This lady just breezed through and took measurements and asked me a few questions. On the way out, she asked me if I would sell any of my art because she saw a bunch hanging up and loved it. She asked me to send her an email and we could talk about it. Score. :)
 
Img_9999 said:
Woah, visiting Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia is one of my life-long unfulfilled dreams. How was you experience there? Was it a long time ago?
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Yeah it was a while ago now. My experience was so good. I was there in 1999 and 2000, so pretty soon after they had just opened their borders to tourism. My initial plan was Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia as well, but I just got stuck in Laos because it was such an amazing time to be there. When my visa ran out, I popped over to Thailand and went back in for another round of Laos.

It was amazing because the country had been pretty isolated from the rest of the world with closed borders under a military dictatorship for several decades, and had just turned a corner to soften up and open up to the world. So it was this exuberant time of opening and the lao people were generally very excited to connect to the outside world. It was really fun to be there in this situation of mutual curiosity. It was easy to have adventures and feel like you were well off the beaten track, learn a bit of the language and explore.

So much of the country was operating on basically medieval technology, and just emerging into the modern ways. I remember a lot of villages where the whole town would be built by hand with natural materials, not even any nails holding buildings up, just bamboo and pegs, even the wheels of the carts were made of wood. Stuff like wooden water wheels mechanically raising and dropping rice pounding devices, people spinning their own thread by hand. It was incredible to see what was probably some of the last glimpses of old Asia, not so different from the old agricultural society in other parts of the world really.

In a way it was sad to know that so many of these old ways would be abandoned very quickly in the encounter with modernism, but at the same time you can't blame anyone for not wanting a life of poverty bent over in a the mud of a rice field all day. But that old way of life sure was beautiful to witness.

Even though it must be so different now, I imagine the country would be 100% worth visiting. The geography and people are amazing, such a nice place to be. The food was really good and interesting too, although maybe not as famous or developed as their neighbours' cuisine. And I'd imagine there are still plenty of traces of that old Asia there. I'd go back in a heartbeat. Would love to visit Cambodia too, and Vietnam.
 
The Chinese are taking Cambodia and ruining it, for example Sihanoukville is now full of Chinese casinos and shit, it's really sad how they're fucking it up.
 
I tried to fight the apathy by going out and doing errands; went to get my haircut, barber had a two hour wait so maybe I'll shave myself bald; went to do my laundry at my folks' house and my father has the whole laundry room torn up to put in new tiling so no clean jeans left; filled up the gas on one car and it was more than $25 for a full 11 gallons, which hasn't happened in about a year and made me happy we drive gas savers but frustrated because I know the price hike is superficial.

And I'm fighting the temptation to do some opioid tonight so hard, but I'm not succeeding, I haven't dosed yet but I'm fairly certain I will later when I get home from the doctor.
 
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