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Hmmm - this is the first I've read of Diclaz inducing psychosis.
Are you certain there wasn't a batch mix-up? I don't doubt the tales, and they garner my sympathy, it's just I am rather prone to psychoses, yet I have never experienced what is detailed above.
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Im surprised you had so much troublr FUBAR but like Sprought i dont doubt your account. Diclazepams always seemed like a weird one to me, i find it perfectly functional for both sedation and anxiolosis, but i rarely feel any obvious effect from them, even when taking 6-8mg in a single dose (again - crap HR) - but i know from my behaviour and the comments of others that ive been quite intoxicated.

I find diclazepam to be quite deceptive in the sense that one can feel alot less fucked than they actually are. The floaty, rubbery, benzed (?!) feeling that one feels when taking other chemicals such as Flubromazepam, or Temazepam, doesnt feel as pronounced with diclaz.
 
Question - has anyone recently tried the euro 6-apb stuff? It's been a long time for me and recently intrigued in giving this another bash being shit time of year and not much going on I'm thinking about giving it another shot for a quiet night in.

Any thoughts would be welcomed :)

I should mention not 6-apdb as I was extremely fond it and actually got me to join on here. But I'd like to give the normal 6-apb a go if possible.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Anyone got any opinions on this new nifoxepam stuff? I received a small sample recently and found it to be very different to other RC benzos in that you can actually 'feel' the effects and get a good nights sleep without feeling groggy as fuck next day and with very little amnesia - even when mixed with booze. To me, it felt more like diazepam than any other RC benzos I've yet experienced. YMMV etc.
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Aye, posted a trip report for it a while ago when it first became available to me:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/720084-Nifoxipam-1mg)-First-Time-Melting-sedative-warmth

Good stuff. (PS ignore the scale of my benzo ratings at the bottom, toying around with doses some more has me firmly set on Diazepam, Bromazepam, Nifoxipam and Midazolam being my top benzos, and some that aren't available.
 
Rhombus said:
I'm also interested in trying the absurdly-named modafinil analog and also 3,4-CTMP (another ritalin analog) because really it's the productivity boost I'm interested in and something without abuse potential is more appealing to me.
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3,4-CTMP has plenty of abuse potential once you learn how to summon the bright side while taming the harshness of sympathomimetic effects with a little chemical help.
 
Evening yous lot.. finished work early so have treated myself to 15mg of 4-HO-MET.. =D

Over did the Mxe last night, not to sure how either, my head felt like... i don't know how to explain it, very unpleasant anyway..

Hope you're all Dandy, swirl ya later..
 
Sm you do know that mxe hangs around your body for a while after the effects no? It tends to affect trips on the following day ime. Not in a consistently good or bad way but they do feel different... enjoy the midweek swirlyness
 
Well that was short lived. Not to sure what to tthink of it really, nicely visual but it lacked in every other aspect. Worth a revisit as it seems very gentle on the body, it certainly lacks depth with prefer out of my Pychs.

I ideal for social occasions, effortless to blend in ( possibly, maybe I was weird in sho

Enjoyed it anyway x x
 
What do you mean by shoert lived? It should last at least a few hours iirc :) but indeed it is a lovely chem... personally find it quite the aphrodisiac too...
 
kingme said:
What do you mean by shoert lived? It should last at least a few hours iirc :) but indeed it is a lovely chem... personally find it quite the aphrodisiac too...
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Yeah, a few hours was about it. Very visual but lacking in most other areas, I did have mxe sloshing around in me though so it's not a fair judgement really.

I'll revisit it for sure, one thing it had going for definitely was absolutely no rough side effects and im feeling pretty decent today.
 
Is there much of a different between your standard 2cb or the BK? I don't understand why certain sites you can buy all the rest of the 2c/** but not CB? Usually a ban covers the whole family, the Nombe series for example iirc.
 
In this country that's long been the approach.

Our laws are by far the strictest in the EU in this regard, whereas other countries seem to prefer to deal on a compound-by-compound basis. Hence 2C-B was quickly a victim of its own popularity, whilst the others slipped through the net due to being relatively obscure.
 
I'm not sure if I got a shitty batch of bk-2c-b or what happened, the come up took ages and was very, very mild. i have a pretty high stim tolerance but my psychedelic experience is almost none. i did eventually get visuals and such about four hours after dropping and these weren't too impressive to say the least. i'm not trying to slate the bk-2-cb but i've taken actual 2-cb and it was AMAZING, bk was, pretty shite. anybody else not too keen on it?

as for nifoxipam, its a nice mild benzo, but too weak for me. i tried the 2mg pellets and ended up having to take around four of these to attain any effect at all! i can deff see its merits a a functional a benzo, but not for me. :(
 
I was told to take bk-2c-b with something acidic to make sure it was absorbed properly. Doesn't react with water well, goes purple apparently? I've taken it twice, I think the second time was more potent based on what/when I ate and drank.

2c-b is the shit!!!!!!!! I had fun on bk-2c-b though. bk-2c-b feels quite a bit AMT I think. Both good fun but can be hard work. Great if you have a lot of time to dedicate to the experience. :D
 
kingme said:
Big fan of bk2cb you are sprout! Ever tried the non bk 2cb?
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Yes I am!
However, it is nothing like its non-ketonated parent. Much closer to the substituted amphetamine family than the 2 Carbon, IME at least.
The arbitrary figure of 10x less potent than 2C-B is inaccurate, also. 40mg 2C-B would be a very enjoyable trip, 400mg of BK-2CB would be farrrr more intense mentally, but even more so physically. The VC is extreme, the aches, tension, bruxism, mydriasis, trisma are also brutal.

It is an absolute bitch to 'get it to work', though, so many people try a few times, possibly mixing with water or whatever, then give up on it. My best results have come from placing the powder into a Rizla bomb, then wrapping the bomb in another paper, before adding to a large VG capsule, which has 50-100mg of Ginger Root Extract in the bottom. So; triple layered and the GRE is hygroscopic so any liquid is absorbed before even getting chance to soak into the paper.

Obviously, you can play around with stomach pH and acid secretion with OTC products - I used to use a PPI for a few days prior, then stop on the day: rebound H+ secretion etc.,

Also, the dose-response curve is vicious.
2C-B felt rather forgiving in that regard, but BK-2CB takes the cake for 'exponential curve'.

Again; nothing like 2C-B, which always had that empathogenic, 'liquid electric' body high to accompany the psychedelia.
 
i think thats why i never really went too crazy for bk2cb. seemed like a nice ride but too much work to make work. it is a very nice chem once it gets going, but the alternatives to it are plentiful. indeed it does remind me of aMT a bit, in that some effort is required for it to be great, but not to the same extent for sure...

@inflo - tried 3mmc, it is a nice chem BUT it isnt a 4mmc replacement for sure, and going for big doses repeteadly has caused some people the same heart damage 4mmc did for less of the fun. personally i only saw value for it in combos, but then again i mostly do my drugs orally
 
I love bk-2-cb too, but I got a bit of MDAI & that seems nice with a little ethylphenidate.

It's very easy to get bk-2c-b to work, put it in a capsule or rizla & then swallow it with some pop or juice, just don't use water, it's fine with drinks that are slightly acidic. I wouldn't ever want to go over about 250mg bk-2c-b, it might be getting into dangerous territory with the body load going much higher.
 
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